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OT: I’m gonna lose 25 pounds by June.

There, I said it and can use it for motivation. Apologies for the self-indulgent post.

best of luck. I hadn’t been on the scale since mid November.... hoped back on it on 12/31. It was ugly... let’s just say I treated the time from Thanksgiving to NYE like a sailor on leave.

but I’m 5 for 5 on cardio workouts for 2021. Start up with DBs, KBs and bands next week. My days with Olympic weights might be over ....
 
best of luck. I hadn’t been on the scale since mid November.... hoped back on it on 12/31. It was ugly... let’s just say I treated the time from Thanksgiving to NYE like a sailor on leave.

but I’m 5 for 5 on cardio workouts for 2021. Start up with DBs, KBs and bands next week. My days with Olympic weights might be over ....
I am very glad I started this thread. If this gives you one extra good push a day, that will add up.
 
I'm in!
1/3 279.2 Goal: 200
1/8 269.0
1/15 265.0
1/22 263.0
1/29 259.8
2/5 256.2
2/12 252.8
2/19 250.6
2/26 247.4
3/5 245.6
3/12 243.8
3/19 242.4
3/26 239.4 Whoa, I'm halfway there ...
4/2 237.6
4/9 236.0
4/16 235.8 (not a good week :( )
4/23 230.6
4/30 229.8
5/7 227.8
5/14 225.4 No longer obese (BMI < 30), just overweight
5/21 223.6
5/28 222.0
6/4 220.2 Under 100 kg!
6/18 219.6 Houseguests: the great destroyers of weight loss regimens
6/25 214.8
7/9 213.8 Vacations: Almost as bad as houseguests
7/16 212.8 Still working at it but not getting results
7/23 216.4 Ugh, more houseguests! (and another wave coming)
8/13 210.4 After some struggles, (hopefully) back on track
8/27 209.8 Under 15 stone! (Grasping for any milestone to keep me going after flatlining for a month)
9/10 208.0
9/17 206.8
10/1 205.0 Doesn't look like I'll make it - Slacker!
10/29 207.0 Fail!
12/17 203.8 Maybe next year

3/2/2022 207.2 OK, I'm gonna give it another shot. During Lent, I'll see what I can do. Certainly my first goal is to get to 200 but I'm gonna shoot for 189 (no longer overweight) and, if things are going well, 180

3/31 199.6 Under 2 bills! I have not weighed less than 200 pounds since my freshman year in college - over 50 years ago!

10/6/2022 203.0 So I still need to drop another 15 but not sure when to go for it. Stay tuned ...

1/5/2023 220.8! Yeah, I did pretty well for a couple of years but this holiday season really got me. I'm gonna try to drop at least 30 after I deplete the house of all of those holiday goodies.
1/12 217.0
1/19 215.0
1/26 213.0
2/2 210.0
10/6/2023 214.4 My 70th birthday! Yeah, I could stand to lose 25 lbs but I walked 24,000 steps today
 
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look what me n 2 bought yesterday big jim
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Don’t lose too much too fast, Bernard. It’s not a race.
Yeah, it'll take me awhile. I lost 75 maybe 3 years ago but, I started to drift up when I stopped "the lifestyle" and ballooned this past year. Thank you for starting this as I too may need the public declaration on this board for motivation. I'll shoot for half of it by June and try to get to 2 bills by my birthday in October.
 
I am very glad I started this thread. If this gives you one extra good push a day, that will add up.
About 25-30 years ago, I got up to 189 lbs. and lost it and it has never come back. (Have been consistently 170-173 lbs since then) Here is what works for me.

1. Weigh myself every day. (Know this goes against common wisdom). Don't worry too much about 1 day fluctuations. 2 day rises are a little concerning but not huge. A rise over 3 days is bad. However, when weighing myself everyday, I learned what caused my weight to rise and what didn't. (For instance, a chicken marsala dish causes my weight to go down and Chipotle, even stripped of fattening topping makes my weight go up.)

2. You have to understand the pyschology of being hungry. One time I stumbled on the fact that even though I was hungry when I went to bed, I found out that I was not hungry when I woke up. From that point on when I felt like I needed to lose weight my goal was to go to bed hungry (still eating a reasonable amount). I would wake up in the morning and not be hungry and after 3 or 4 days, it becomes a satisfying, positive experience. I realize the idea sounds very hard on the surface, but, at least for me, when I got into it, it was not that hard.

4. Realize that when you are eating less, but reasonable amounts, it may take 4-7 days for your weight to drop. I think your body tries to keep itself stable. However, in these circumstances, once the weight starts to drop it almost drops like a rock.

5. Another thing to keep in mind is that when you are moderately hungry and start to eat things like snacks, sometimes it makes you more hungry --which to me is purely pyschological. I think this classicly happens with food like peanuts. So, now when I am moderately hungry, before I eat, I put a limit on myself and stop although I am even hungrier after starting. Then about 20 minutes later, I realize I am not hungry.

6. I would suggest that you find a way to replace the pleasure the food gives you with something else. Don't feel like you are punishing yourself every day. In exchange for the loss of some food pleasure, treat yourself to other pleasures.

7. I exercise every day, but exercise in my experience is only about a 20% factor in losing weight.
 
About 25-30 years ago, I got up to 189 lbs. and lost it and it has never come back. (Have been consistently 170-173 lbs since then) Here is what works for me.

1. Weigh myself every day. (Know this goes against common wisdom). Don't worry too much about 1 day fluctuations. 2 day rises are a little concerning but not huge. A rise over 3 days is bad. However, when weighing myself everyday, I learned what caused my weight to rise and what didn't. (For instance, a chicken marsala dish causes my weight to go down and Chipotle, even stripped of fattening topping makes my weight go up.)

2. You have to understand the pyschology of being hungry. One time I stumbled on the fact that even though I was hungry when I went to bed, I found out that I was not hungry when I woke up. From that point on when I felt like I needed to lose weight my goal was to go to bed hungry (still eating a reasonable amount). I would wake up in the morning and not be hungry and after 3 or 4 days, it becomes a satisfying, positive experience. I realize the idea sounds very hard on the surface, but, at least for me, when I got into it, it was not that hard.

4. Realize that when you are eating less, but reasonable amounts, it may take 4-7 days for your weight to drop. I think your body tries to keep itself stable. However, in these circumstances, once the weight starts to drop it almost drops like a rock.

5. Another thing to keep in mind is that when you are moderately hungry and start to eat things like snacks, sometimes it makes you more hungry --which to me is purely pyschological. I think this classicly happens with food like peanuts. So, now when I am moderately hungry, before I eat, I put a limit on myself and stop although I am even hungrier after starting. Then about 20 minutes later, I realize I am not hungry.

6. I would suggest that you find a way to replace the pleasure the food gives you with something else. Don't feel like you are punishing yourself every day. In exchange for the loss of some food pleasure, treat yourself to other pleasures.

7. I exercise every day, but exercise in my experience is only about a 20% factor in losing weight.
That's some great points, even for an OSU guy. :)

My friend's wife is a dietician. He said that one of the best things to curb hunger is to eat a banana and drink lots of water. It fills you up with minimal calories.

Also, cutting too many daily calories too fast is bad. You may put your body into starvation mode where it stores everything instead of processing it normally.
 
Damn right it’s a race.
look what me n 2 bought yesterday big jim
UOuUBTC.jpg
Nice.

A home gym would never work for me. I need the “Attaboys” I get at my gym. It’s good to hang with strong, dedicated people. I see them working hard and that inspires me. Yesterday I saw a dude doing overhead snatches with a 100-lb dumbbell, you could see how he was using his entire body to get it up over his head and hold it there. Respect.
 
Nice.

A home gym would never work for me. I need the “Attaboys” I get at my gym. It’s good to hang with strong, dedicated people. I see them working hard and that inspires me. Yesterday I saw a dude doing overhead snatches with a 100-lb dumbbell, you could see how he was using his entire body to get it up over his head and hold it there. Respect.
Lol you said snatches....
 
About 25-30 years ago, I got up to 189 lbs. and lost it and it has never come back. (Have been consistently 170-173 lbs since then)

1. Weigh myself every day. (Know this goes against common wisdom). Don't worry too much about 1 day fluctuations. 2 day rises are a little concerning but not huge. A rise over 3 days is bad. However, when weighing myself everyday, I learned what caused my weight to rise and what didn't. (For instance, a chicken marsala dish causes my weight to go down and Chipotle, even stripped of fattening topping makes my weight go up.)

Dirty little secret about Carbs: generally speaking, they hold water. That's why when someone starts keto, they lose like 5-10 lbs the first week. They're losing water weight. So if you eat a bunch of carbs for dinner, you're going to gain water weight. Thats why i think it's super important that IF youre going to weigh yourself every day, understand that the short-term numbers aren't nearly as important as the long term ones, which goes to your point about 3+ day rises are bad, anything less than that and it's water weight fluctuating based on what you ate. I've seen 190 one day, 194 the next, then 189 the following. It's like looking at the stock market. When you zoom in on a 1 day look, it's jagged and all over the place, but when you zoom out to 1 month or 1 year, you see the larger trend.

Nice.

A home gym would never work for me. I need the “Attaboys” I get at my gym. It’s good to hang with strong, dedicated people. I see them working hard and that inspires me. Yesterday I saw a dude doing overhead snatches with a 100-lb dumbbell, you could see how he was using his entire body to get it up over his head and hold it there. Respect.

I didnt' know we went to the same gym.... interesting.....

actually oddly enough i was doing single arm overhead kettlebell lunges yesterday.

and yeah, the gym is a forcing function for me too. but for me, it's the paying the money for the membership. if i pay for it, i'm GOING to use it.
 
Nice.

A home gym would never work for me. I need the “Attaboys” I get at my gym. It’s good to hang with strong, dedicated people. I see them working hard and that inspires me. Yesterday I saw a dude doing overhead snatches with a 100-lb dumbbell, you could see how he was using his entire body to get it up over his head and hold it there. Respect.
I have son 2.
 
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About 25-30 years ago, I got up to 189 lbs. and lost it and it has never come back. (Have been consistently 170-173 lbs since then) Here is what works for me.

1. Weigh myself every day. (Know this goes against common wisdom). Don't worry too much about 1 day fluctuations. 2 day rises are a little concerning but not huge. A rise over 3 days is bad. However, when weighing myself everyday, I learned what caused my weight to rise and what didn't. (For instance, a chicken marsala dish causes my weight to go down and Chipotle, even stripped of fattening topping makes my weight go up.)

2. You have to understand the pyschology of being hungry. One time I stumbled on the fact that even though I was hungry when I went to bed, I found out that I was not hungry when I woke up. From that point on when I felt like I needed to lose weight my goal was to go to bed hungry (still eating a reasonable amount). I would wake up in the morning and not be hungry and after 3 or 4 days, it becomes a satisfying, positive experience. I realize the idea sounds very hard on the surface, but, at least for me, when I got into it, it was not that hard.

4. Realize that when you are eating less, but reasonable amounts, it may take 4-7 days for your weight to drop. I think your body tries to keep itself stable. However, in these circumstances, once the weight starts to drop it almost drops like a rock.

5. Another thing to keep in mind is that when you are moderately hungry and start to eat things like snacks, sometimes it makes you more hungry --which to me is purely pyschological. I think this classicly happens with food like peanuts. So, now when I am moderately hungry, before I eat, I put a limit on myself and stop although I am even hungrier after starting. Then about 20 minutes later, I realize I am not hungry.

6. I would suggest that you find a way to replace the pleasure the food gives you with something else. Don't feel like you are punishing yourself every day. In exchange for the loss of some food pleasure, treat yourself to other pleasures.

7. I exercise every day, but exercise in my experience is only about a 20% factor in losing weight.
I'm guessing that #3 is the magic bullet? Perhaps someday you'll share.

Good points and what's better is that it works for you. I think that's the point of this thread. Lots of experiences and collective knowledge, some good pointers, competition, and motivation but everyone has to find what works best for them.

For me, I've never dieted. I guess the constant pull between the HS football coach and wrestling coach left an indelible mark. I eat what I eat and fortunately my wife makes mostly healthy meals. I find that for me, weight is only one measure and lifting, running, cardio are all better measures. I would like to be a little leaner than I currently am but I also like chocolate. I can find a healthy compromise.

Although I fully admit that diet is 80% of being a healthy weight, I tend to make workout goals instead. I just eat the good meals the wife makes and try to keep the sweets in moderation. But what I can do physically has always been my measure.

For most of my adult life I was in the military and therefore up early, running several miles, pushups, situps, body weight exercises, lifting, sports, mostly young kids full of testosterone all thinking that they were the toughest gutting through a couple of workouts a day even in 130 degree heat (yes, Kuwait actually gets that hot). A lot of guys get soft when they leave the military because they leave the routine. The point is that we all need some reason or means to get in healthy daily routines. It might be a physical fitness test for some or wanting to be there for the kids/grandkids but it is usually most effective when the reason has more direct meaning to you as opposed to some outward influence. I do it to compete with me. You are getting better or you are getting worse right?

To the point of what works for you, I tried for awhile to stop lifting and focus on running for about a year and half at one point. If I didn't run distance for a week, it was literally like starting my training completely over when I ran again. I'm more of a power lifting and sprint guy naturally than endurance/distance. So I thought I would focus on my weakness. I increased distance to 10 miles and alternated it with a 3 mile every day thinking I would fix this problem. I actually got less toned over that year+. It works for some but not for me. I went back to lifting and less distance. I walked into the gym after a year and half of not lifting and picked up the exact same weight for sets (just fewer reps).

A couple of years ago I went a little nuts on the weights. I was squatting 495 for sets, leg pressing almost 1400, weighted pullups wearing 90 lbs on a chained belt, weighted dips adding 135 and actually had goals for more. Then I hit some overworking issues and learned that I'm not 25 anymore. My body can't do heavy every day and needs more rest nowadays. I had to even completely stop some exercises like weighted dips because it overloads the shoulder at non-natural angle. So I started alternating heavy/light days and building in rest days here and there and ramping up the cardio and flexibility. This so far is allowing me to do what I want without breaking myself down to the point of being out of commission.

My point is that through some trial and error, I have learned and hopefully am still willing to learn what works and doesn't specific to me. Some of you can diet strictly and it works (although it needs to be a lifestyle to keep it working). I like to eat what I eat and probably am only going to tweak the consumption of sweets some. Some of you like to go to the gym to feed off of others there or to hold yourself to it because you are paying for the membership. I'm happy as a clam getting my home gym set up in the basement and going to work whenever I want. I'll get to the goals for specific weights on each exercise and simply add reps and sets from there.

Best to you guys in your efforts. I think the most important thing is the daily effort whatever that is that you are doing. Don't let the scale tell the whole story. Let us know how you're feeling as you progress.
 
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I'm guessing that #3 is the magic bullet? Perhaps someday you'll share.

Good points and what's better is that it works for you. I think that's the point of this thread. Lots of experiences and collective knowledge, some good pointers, competition, and motivation but everyone has to find what works best for them.

For me, I've never dieted. I guess the constant pull between the HS football coach and wrestling coach left an indelible mark. I eat what I eat and fortunately my wife makes mostly healthy meals. I find that for me, weight is only one measure and lifting, running, cardio are all better measures. I would like to be a little leaner than I currently am but I also like chocolate. I can find a healthy compromise.

Although I fully admit that diet is 80% of being a healthy weight, I tend to make workout goals instead. I just eat the good meals the wife makes and try to keep the sweets in moderation. But what I can do physically has always been my measure.

For most of my adult life I was in the military and therefore up early, running several miles, pushups, situps, body weight exercises, lifting, sports, mostly young kids full of testosterone all thinking that they were the toughest gutting through a couple of workouts a day even in 130 degree heat (yes, Kuwait actually gets that hot). A lot of guys get soft when they leave the military because they leave the routine. The point is that we all need some reason or means to get in healthy daily routines. It might be a physical fitness test for some or wanting to be there for the kids/grandkids but it is usually most effective when the reason has more direct meaning to you as opposed to some outward influence. I do it to compete with me. You are getting better or you are getting worse right?

To the point of what works for you, I tried for awhile to stop lifting and focus on running for about a year and half at one point. If I didn't run distance for a week, it was literally like starting my training completely over when I ran again. I'm more of a power lifting and sprint guy naturally than endurance/distance. So I thought I would focus on my weakness. I increased distance to 10 miles and alternated it with a 3 mile every day thinking I would fix this problem. I actually got less toned over that year+. It works for some but not for me. I went back to lifting and less distance. I walked into the gym after a year and half of not lifting and picked up the exact same weight for sets (just fewer reps).

A couple of years ago I went a little nuts on the weights. I was squatting 495 for sets, leg pressing almost 1400, weighted pullups wearing 90 lbs on a chained belt, weighted dips adding 135 and actually had goals for more. Then I hit some overworking issues and learned that I'm not 25 anymore. My body can't do heavy every day and needs more rest nowadays. I had to even completely stop some exercises like weighted dips because it overloads the shoulder at non-natural angle. So I started alternating heavy/light days and building in rest days here and there and ramping up the cardio and flexibility. This so far is allowing me to do what I want without breaking myself down to the point of being out of commission.

My point is that through some trial and error, I have learned and hopefully am still willing to learn what works and doesn't specific to me. Some of you can diet strictly and it works (although it needs to be a lifestyle to keep it working). I like to eat what I eat and probably am only going to tweak the consumption of sweets some. Some of you like to go to the gym to feed off of others there or to hold yourself to it because you are paying for the membership. I'm happy as a clam getting my home gym set up in the basement and going to work whenever I want. I'll get to the goals for specific weights on each exercise and simply add reps and sets from there.

Best to you guys in your efforts. I think the most important thing is the daily effort whatever that is that you are doing. Don't let the scale tell the whole story. Let us know how you're feeling as you progress.
fvck in BEAST MODE here wow
 
About 25-30 years ago, I got up to 189 lbs. and lost it and it has never come back. (Have been consistently 170-173 lbs since then) Here is what works for me.

1. Weigh myself every day. (Know this goes against common wisdom). Don't worry too much about 1 day fluctuations. 2 day rises are a little concerning but not huge. A rise over 3 days is bad. However, when weighing myself everyday, I learned what caused my weight to rise and what didn't. (For instance, a chicken marsala dish causes my weight to go down and Chipotle, even stripped of fattening topping makes my weight go up.)

2. You have to understand the pyschology of being hungry. One time I stumbled on the fact that even though I was hungry when I went to bed, I found out that I was not hungry when I woke up. From that point on when I felt like I needed to lose weight my goal was to go to bed hungry (still eating a reasonable amount). I would wake up in the morning and not be hungry and after 3 or 4 days, it becomes a satisfying, positive experience. I realize the idea sounds very hard on the surface, but, at least for me, when I got into it, it was not that hard.

4. Realize that when you are eating less, but reasonable amounts, it may take 4-7 days for your weight to drop. I think your body tries to keep itself stable. However, in these circumstances, once the weight starts to drop it almost drops like a rock.

5. Another thing to keep in mind is that when you are moderately hungry and start to eat things like snacks, sometimes it makes you more hungry --which to me is purely pyschological. I think this classicly happens with food like peanuts. So, now when I am moderately hungry, before I eat, I put a limit on myself and stop although I am even hungrier after starting. Then about 20 minutes later, I realize I am not hungry.

6. I would suggest that you find a way to replace the pleasure the food gives you with something else. Don't feel like you are punishing yourself every day. In exchange for the loss of some food pleasure, treat yourself to other pleasures.

7. I exercise every day, but exercise in my experience is only about a 20% factor in losing weight.

1. Daily fluctuations like that are often due to salt intake which holds water....and like someone else said carbs do the same. Avoid salt which is hidden in a lot foods. Read the labels, use frozen foods instead of canned, drink a lot of water. Drinking water sounds goofy but when you drink more water you flush out salts from your body which causes you to lose weight.

2. Interesting, have to try that one.

3. There is no three! Cut threes from your diet?

4. Rapid weight lose is not good so slow and steady is the way to go.

5. Yep, when you are hungry and eat it takes time for your body to send the proper hormones to quenched hungry feeling. Eat very slowly and you will eat less. When you need to take a quick snack, try some veggies. Low cal, lasts in stomach longer.

6. Bob! must be the skinniest guy here!

7. I used to think exercise was key. Ate all I wanted but was always outside on the move, both work and pleasure. Worked when I was young. But having read a lot more, diet is definitely the key. Eat a couple donuts and you have to run three or four miles, just for the donuts!
 
5'10, 168lbs here... I have the opposite problem... how do I put on more weight? ?!
I am 5'10" to 5'10 1/2", now about the same as you, 168-170 lbs. I dropped about 40 pounds since last June to get there. Low carb diet plus 3 strenuous workouts (Body Pump or Crossfit) per week plus jogging for 20 minutes 1-2 times per day on the off days. Size 38-40, now 32-33, jersey shorts from XL to L to M now.
 
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Dan John says to do different things, mix things up. His theory is that when you try things you haven’t done before you’ll expand more energy than if you’ve been doing these things regularly. I’ll try to find a link.
The theory is sound, and probably also a really good way to minimize injury risk. (The rugby coach at my son's school, who is working on his health ph.d., sings this from the hilltops all the time, especially given the repetitive motion injuries we see coming out of youth sports all the time these days.) Also, at our age, it's increasingly important to do some weight work for upper body. That is where I am largely remiss.
 
Thanks for suggesting the rate for increasing the load. I believed in this philosophy inherently, but never had a figure assigned to how slow to ramp up exercise. The same could be done for reducing caloric intake, I would think.
sure thing. Did my weekly "intensity" ride this morning. As I was thinking about it this morning, I wondered whether 25 by June might be a little aggressive, but it really isn't. It's a nice stretch target, and if LJ gets 20 by then, he should consider that a victory. One per week is a good pace that I followed last year til I broke my arm (I went from about 185 to 170 before that).

I come from a cycling background. While it's an old book that has been overtaken somewhat in the context of cycling by the prevalence of power meters and training programs, Joel Friel's "Cyclist's Training Bible" is an excellent and easily understandable book about some of the "bedrock" concepts of training and fitness that I think can really be applied to any activity -- periodicity, rest, intensity allocation, general v. specific training, training blocks. It's not a training "program" per se, it's a book about training principles.
 
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Dirty little secret about Carbs: generally speaking, they hold water. That's why when someone starts keto, they lose like 5-10 lbs the first week. They're losing water weight. So if you eat a bunch of carbs for dinner, you're going to gain water weight. Thats why i think it's super important that IF youre going to weigh yourself every day, understand that the short-term numbers aren't nearly as important as the long term ones, which goes to your point about 3+ day rises are bad, anything less than that and it's water weight fluctuating based on what you ate. I've seen 190 one day, 194 the next, then 189 the following. It's like looking at the stock market. When you zoom in on a 1 day look, it's jagged and all over the place, but when you zoom out to 1 month or 1 year, you see the larger trend.
The daily weight fluctuations are why I only weigh myself once a week, on the same day if possible. I want a long term goal in smaller weekly increments. I'm not trying to cut weight for a wrestling match.
 
The daily weight fluctuations are why I only weigh myself once a week, on the same day if possible. I want a long term goal in smaller weekly increments. I'm not trying to cut weight for a wrestling match.

good call. same day, same time of day, same factors (i.e. morning, after your first urination/defecation) to get the most reliable factors for each weigh in. That's how I do my BF%. we have an impedance machine where I work, and I check my measurements every 6 weeks, first thing in the morning after getting to work.
 
The daily weight fluctuations are why I only weigh myself once a week, on the same day if possible. I want a long term goal in smaller weekly increments. I'm not trying to cut weight for a wrestling match.
I weigh myself daily and input to the fitbit, but I focus on the 3 month trend graph rather than the dailies. That's especially important in my case, since I always take 1-2 days off per week from "formal" exercise for rest and recovery. Even teh dumbest fitbit is a useful tool where you can input food and fluid intake as well. Just doing that can be both a reminder and an eye opener in terms of the inputs.
 
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good call. same day, same time of day, same factors (i.e. morning, after your first urination/defecation) to get the most reliable factors for each weigh in. That's how I do my BF%. we have an impedance machine where I work, and I check my measurements every 6 weeks, first thing in the morning after getting to work.
My wife argued with me on this. I said I want to know what I weigh. Not me plus clothes, plus food and water and coffee, etc.

In the past, I normally weighed myself Wednesday mornings before I went to work. I bowl in a Wednesday night league and if I was happy with me weight loss, I usually had an extra beer or snack that I normally wouldn't get.
 
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