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OT: I’m gonna lose 25 pounds by June.

443 kibble.
In case anyone's wondering, I was hoping for something along the lines of this. I'm obviously too sophisticated for this board.

[Latka pays Louie a coin]
Louie De Palma : What's this?
Latka Gravas : It's a kebble.
Louie De Palma : What's a kebble?
Latka Gravas : 110 kebble make a lithnitch.
Louie De Palma : What's a lithnich?
Latka Gravas : 270 lithnich make a matta.
Louie De Palma : What's a matta?
Latka Gravas : I don't know, what's a matta with you?
 
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In case anyone's wondering, I was hoping for something along the lines of this. I'm obliviously too sophisticated for this board.

[Latka pays Louie a coin]

Louie De Palma : What's this?

Latka Gravas : It's a kebble.

Louie De Palma : What's a kebble?

Latka Gravas : 110 kebble make a lithnitch.

Louie De Palma : What's a lithnich?

Latka Gravas : 270 lithnich make a matta.

Louie De Palma : What's a matta?

Latka Gravas : I don't know, what's the matta with you?
Dude, I had, and still have, zero fvck ing clue lol. But I’m sad you won’t post a number
 
I call violation. I could lose 5 pounds when I wrestled if I wore a suit
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We need to review the rules.
 
Question for you 50 somethings who still push the weights. Have any of you guys done testosterone replacement or dabbled with the supplements that are supposed to boost T “naturally”?

I’m 40, working out 5-6 days a week. Not looking looking to “get huge” just maintain what I have and decrease my body fat. My recovery is slow these days and the soreness and stiffness is really catching up with me. My sense is that the over the counter supplements are largely bogus. I’m thinking about asking my Dr., but she will probably laugh at me. I need more energy. My diet is mostly good, blood work is fine...thinking it may be due to reduced T levels!?
 
Question for you 50 somethings who still push the weights. Have any of you guys done testosterone replacement or dabbled with the supplements that are supposed to boost T “naturally”?

I’m 40, working out 5-6 days a week. Not looking looking to “get huge” just maintain what I have and decrease my body fat. My recovery is slow these days and the soreness and stiffness is really catching up with me. My sense is that the over the counter supplements are largely bogus. I’m thinking about asking my Dr., but she will probably laugh at me. I need more energy. My diet is mostly good, blood work is fine...thinking it may be due to reduced T levels!?
id blow off anything not FDA approved. Def ask your doctor.
moms gave me a vitamin B supp. I take that every day, seems to give me a burst of energy. Imagined? Who really knows.
 
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id blow off anything not FDA approved. Def ask your doctor.
moms gave me a vitamin B supp. I take that every day, seems to give me a burst of energy. Imagined? Who really knows.
Good advice. I’ve taken very few supplements during my years of lifting, so I am typically adverse to such things. May just be time to become even more vigilant with diet, sleep and recover.
 
Question for you 50 somethings who still push the weights. Have any of you guys done testosterone replacement or dabbled with the supplements that are supposed to boost T “naturally”?

I’m 40, working out 5-6 days a week. Not looking looking to “get huge” just maintain what I have and decrease my body fat. My recovery is slow these days and the soreness and stiffness is really catching up with me. My sense is that the over the counter supplements are largely bogus. I’m thinking about asking my Dr., but she will probably laugh at me. I need more energy. My diet is mostly good, blood work is fine...thinking it may be due to reduced T levels!?
Let’s say it was well known secret in my community that certain MD’s slipped Rx’s for Test to fellow Doc’s to enhance their egos and extracurricular activities. Absolutely true story. Until one diagnosis with Prostate CA. Ask an urologist their opinion on the subject, quote I recall throwing gas on a fire potential.
 
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They should start a separate page for all the updates/results. Gonna be a long, hard fought ordeal.
You’re probably right. I didn’t intend it to get the way it is now, a weekly weight in. Really the first post was enough for me. Oh well. Back to the drawing board.

Edit. This will be my last post on the subject until June 7. It’s not my style and I listen to posters I respect. We’ll all survive this deprivation.
 
They should start a separate page for all the updates/results. Gonna be a long, hard fought ordeal.
I don't really want to be that involved. Eat/drink nothing but Busch Light
You’re probably right. I didn’t intend it to get the way it is now, a weekly weight in. Really the first post was enough for me. Oh well. Back to the drawing board.

Edit. This will be my last post on the subject until June 7. It’s not my style and I listen to posters I respect. We’ll all survive this deprivation.
Go for a walk Jim.
 
You’re probably right. I didn’t intend it to get the way it is now, a weekly weight in. Really the first post was enough for me. Oh well. Back to the drawing board.

Edit. This will be my last post on the subject until June 7. It’s not my style and I listen to posters I respect. We’ll all survive this deprivation.

Probably should contact ESPN and see if they'll put in a live scoreboard of your weight loss marathon.

Maybe even show some videos of you guys in the gym.
 
About 25-30 years ago, I got up to 189 lbs. and lost it and it has never come back. (Have been consistently 170-173 lbs since then) Here is what works for me.

1. Weigh myself every day. (Know this goes against common wisdom). Don't worry too much about 1 day fluctuations. 2 day rises are a little concerning but not huge. A rise over 3 days is bad. However, when weighing myself everyday, I learned what caused my weight to rise and what didn't. (For instance, a chicken marsala dish causes my weight to go down and Chipotle, even stripped of fattening topping makes my weight go up.)

2. You have to understand the pyschology of being hungry. One time I stumbled on the fact that even though I was hungry when I went to bed, I found out that I was not hungry when I woke up. From that point on when I felt like I needed to lose weight my goal was to go to bed hungry (still eating a reasonable amount). I would wake up in the morning and not be hungry and after 3 or 4 days, it becomes a satisfying, positive experience. I realize the idea sounds very hard on the surface, but, at least for me, when I got into it, it was not that hard.

4. Realize that when you are eating less, but reasonable amounts, it may take 4-7 days for your weight to drop. I think your body tries to keep itself stable. However, in these circumstances, once the weight starts to drop it almost drops like a rock.

5. Another thing to keep in mind is that when you are moderately hungry and start to eat things like snacks, sometimes it makes you more hungry --which to me is purely pyschological. I think this classicly happens with food like peanuts. So, now when I am moderately hungry, before I eat, I put a limit on myself and stop although I am even hungrier after starting. Then about 20 minutes later, I realize I am not hungry.

6. I would suggest that you find a way to replace the pleasure the food gives you with something else. Don't feel like you are punishing yourself every day. In exchange for the loss of some food pleasure, treat yourself to other pleasures.

7. I exercise every day, but exercise in my experience is only about a 20% factor in losing weight.

Good stuff here.
So my Dr told me this. When you eat carbs your stomach will never tell your brain it’s full. If you eat protein and fatty things it willtell your brain It’s full. this is why I can finish a bag of chips but not a big steak. So eat good protein snacks and it will automatically reduce your portion size.

Just another reason that carbs are just awful for you.
 
I use My Fitness Pal to track my food intake. It links with my Garmin watch and they two share my inputs. The hardest thing I found when I started using MFP was watching the calories add up and the realization that I was eating like garbage. MFP and similar tools only help if you're honest with them.

i can do the same wit my Garmin fitness tracker. Those two apps work well together. I lost my discipline and stopped though. Loved mapping out the carbs in MyFitness Pal. It was shocking to see how many carbs are in food. Also there are good carbs and bad carbs.
 
You’re probably right. I didn’t intend it to get the way it is now, a weekly weight in. Really the first post was enough for me. Oh well. Back to the drawing board.

Edit. This will be my last post on the subject until June 7. It’s not my style and I listen to posters I respect. We’ll all survive this deprivation.
Hey, don’t stop posting about your journey. Just thought a different thread would be for posting weekly updates. Will be interesting to see how each of you progress. This thread is full of advice for a better, healthier diet and losing weight. Just prefer to keep the two separate. All just my opinion.
 
You’re probably right. I didn’t intend it to get the way it is now, a weekly weight in. Really the first post was enough for me. Oh well. Back to the drawing board.

Edit. This will be my last post on the subject until June 7. It’s not my style and I listen to posters I respect. We’ll all survive this deprivation.
You’re not gonna weigh in?
 
Good stuff here.
So my Dr told me this. When you eat carbs your stomach will never tell your brain it’s full. If you eat protein and fatty things it willtell your brain It’s full. this is why I can finish a bag of chips but not a big steak. So eat good protein snacks and it will automatically reduce your portion size.

Just another reason that carbs are just awful for you.
Great advice. Dr Mark Hyman....thirteen times NYT best seller, Dr at Cleveland Clinic, star of YouTube and PBS television.... has been saying same thing about carbs. Have a carb breakfast like cereal and you get hungry in a few hrs. Have a high protein breakfast with good quality fats and you will not get hungry until much later.

 
You’re not gonna weigh in?
1. I’ve been spending wayyyy too much time online. I have retired only just this week and I’m not happy with my recent online presence. As I see it, it’s not healthy,

2. As I indicated, I only needed my OP to be sufficiently motivated to lose the weight. I have always been like that: I announce goals with a deadline and I complete them. I will come close enough to my goal to be satisfied; I am very tenacious.

It’s all cool. We’ll compare in June. Besides, I’d probably be smoking your ass to such an extent that you’d get discouraged and go all White Goodman on us. I really would prefer not to have that on my conscience.
 
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Question for you 50 somethings who still push the weights. Have any of you guys done testosterone replacement or dabbled with the supplements that are supposed to boost T “naturally”?

I’m 40, working out 5-6 days a week. Not looking looking to “get huge” just maintain what I have and decrease my body fat. My recovery is slow these days and the soreness and stiffness is really catching up with me. My sense is that the over the counter supplements are largely bogus. I’m thinking about asking my Dr., but she will probably laugh at me. I need more energy. My diet is mostly good, blood work is fine...thinking it may be due to reduced T levels!?

Not quite 50 but almost. If anything I may still have too much testosterone. But I would be extremely careful about any attempt to regulate testosterone levels. Most hormones including testosterone have a negative feedback regulation meaning that your body measures the effects of that hormone level and if you attempt to unnaturally upregulate the hormone level then your body's negative feedback will down regulate production of said hormone. So by taking something to unnaturally increase testosterone levels, you are eroding your body's capacity to produce it's own testosterone. Essentially you would need more and more unnatural testosterone boost in the future to deal with your body naturally providing increasing negative feedback to further reduce your own production of the hormone. If it's a serious issue then I would discuss with a doctor but just looking for an energy boost I would definitely consider other options first.

I take a krill oil and recently added vitamin C and elderberry for immune boost but am likely pi$$ing much of that out daily. I think you build your energy levels with increased physical activity and better sleep. Getting in the good daily routines will increase energy level over time. I'd probably improve mine further by decreasing sugar intake and thereby decreasing spikes in insulin levels.

Another concept that fitness science research has been hitting on more and more is that it isn't just getting that 30 to 60 minutes of daily exercise that needs to be part of the Ex Rx. It is just as important to not be totally inactive the rest of the day outside of your daily 30 to 60 minutes of exercise. Studies are showing that all of the horrible diseases (cardiovascular, cancer, diabetes, etc.) increase likelihood with the number of hours someone is sedentary particularly in front of a screen. Many of you do this 8 hours+ a day for work. Break up the time and squeeze in mini (5 to 15 minute periods of increased metabolic and cardiovascular activity, a walk, do some pushups or ab work, do some air squats, etc.) Just don't sit on your behind or lay on a couch watching the tube for several hours straight.

Many people think they are being healthy doing a 30 minute cardio workout in the morning or evening and being sedentary the other 23.5 hours of the day. Current research is showing that an exercising couch potato is still mostly a couch potato. You have to upregulate your cardiovascular system several times each day and it is healthier to upregulate and down regulated repeatedly almost like doing a High Intensity Interval Training workout (which burns more calories and challenges your cardiovascular system more than a longer but evenly paced workout) but spread out over your waking hours.
 
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Not quite 50 but almost. If anything I may still have too much testosterone. But I would be extremely careful about any attempt to regulate testosterone levels. Most hormones including testosterone have a negative feedback regulation meaning that your body measures the effects of that hormone level and if you attempt to unnaturally upregulate the hormone level then your body's negative feedback will down regulate production of said hormone. So by taking something to unnaturally increase testosterone levels, you are eroding your body's capacity to produce it's own testosterone. Essentially you would need more and more unnatural testosterone boost in the future to deal with your body naturally providing increasing negative feedback to further reduce your own production of the hormone. If it's a serious issue then I would discuss with a doctor but just looking for an energy boost I would definitely consider other options first.

I take a krill oil and recently added vitamin C and elderberry for immune boost but am likely pi$$ing much of that out daily. I think you build your energy levels with increased physical activity and better sleep. Getting in the good daily routines will increase energy level over time. I'd probably improve mine further by decreasing sugar intake and thereby decreasing spikes in insulin levels.

Another concept that fitness science research has been hitting on more and more is that it isn't just getting that 30 to 60 minutes of daily exercise that needs to be part of the Ex Rx. It is just as important to not be totally inactive the rest of the day outside of your daily 30 to 60 minutes of exercise. Studies are showing that all of the horrible diseases (cardiovascular, cancer, diabetes, etc.) increase likelihood with the number of hours someone is sedentary particularly in front of a screen. Many of you do this 8 hours+ a day for work. Break up the time and squeeze in mini (5 to 15 minute periods of increased metabolic and cardiovascular activity, a walk, do some pushups or ab work, do some air squats, etc.) Just don't sit on your behind or lay on a couch watching the tube for several hours straight.

Many people think they are being healthy doing a 30 minute cardio workout in the morning or evening and being sedentary the other 23.5 hours of the day. Current research is showing that an exercising couch potato is still mostly a couch potato. You have to upregulate your cardiovascular system several times each day and it is healthier to upregulate and down regulated repeatedly almost like doing a High Intensity Interval Training workout (which burns more calories and challenges your cardiovascular system more than a longer but evenly paced workout) but spread out over your waking hours.
Yep, research shows even a light workout twice a day is very beneficial. Exercise increase your metabolism for several hours. So two periods of exercise, even just a brisk walk or bike ride, twice a day is a great way to burn calories and lose weight. Take several flights of stairs, gardening, working around the house all help.
 
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