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Drew - It feels like we are witnessing his first brushes ever with pressure and adversity in these big games. I think a great coach(hint: he's bald and undefeated) once was quoted that responses in these situations are not innate but learned. He's got a lot of lessons left.
Kotelnicki has had worse games, but he still lacks feel and sequencing.
Yes the WRs have been bad for 3 seasons, can't fall on anyone but the coaching staff (along with what you list).
Either they're not recruiting well enough, developing well enough, or some combo of the 2. 100% on the staff and Franklin would be the first to say so.
But the thing is, they will roll back next year with Hagans as the coach. I had my doubts about the OL but boy did they come on at the end of the year. I was wrong, they are a strength of the team.
Funny thing is that Franklin has lamented, at different times, about having "that guy" at QB (after the 2018 season), and having a big imposing OL (after Michigan in 2022). He got that 5 star QB, he had an OL road grading for 144 in the first half. Like Joe Diffie said, "it's always something".
Only so much you can do when the QB can't hit the broad side of the barn unless it's to one guy. Kotelnicki did plenty enough in a game where he essentially didn't get to use 2-3 guys/play. There's a reason that when Drew throws it accurately to WRs they are next to impossible to stop, like in the Oregon game.
Its not the first brush with adversity for Drew. He was awful at Ohio State last year. He was awful against Michigan last year. Both those games essentially knocked PSU out of the playoff. He was bad against Ohio State this year. He was awful last night. He was okay against Oregon, however since they were already playoff bound, I would not call that a high pressure situation.
If I was Franklin I would have Cael introduce Allar to Bonnie and see if it helps. Even Bonnie and Cael have not helped everyone. There have been a few PSU wrestlers who have not dealt well with pressure/adversity.
Some people are mentally weak, hopefully Allar is not one of them.
It is a shame, they got down 17-10, marched down the field to tie it, make a huge interception and then take the lead. Then you have 2 PSU DBs fall down and turn a short gain into a 50+ yard TD.
Have these men been taught to catch and run routes? Have defenders been taught to not fall on their asses? Has a five star recruit been taught to throw a ball ?
Yes they have. It's not always coaching. The players performed poorly . Assuming it's always coaching is assuming there is no difference in ability, motivation, personal habits etc.
Again the receivers had zero catches for 0 yards. If they've ever caught the ball before, got open before or gained any yards on any receptions previous to this game that means they had the ability and they were taught how to do it. They choked.
It's crazy that they have the best tight end, edge rusher, and backfield (arguably) in the country but have no receivers. They would boat race Notre Dame, and beat Ohio State with one big time receiver. Jahan Dotson would do just fine. Whatever happened to physical receivers like Godwin and Allen Robinson (I mean ones who can get open).
But for this game in a vacuum, they win that game by 2 touchdowns if Allar has just an average game. The moment was too big for him. Hopefully it's not a terminal situation. Singleton could've caught that pass at the goalline but he surely wasn't expecting to be kneecapped by it. Allar's mechanics looked really bad at times. Pressure, I think.
But for this game in a vacuum, they win that game by 2 touchdowns if Allar has just an average game. The moment was too big for him. Hopefully it's not a terminal situation. Singleton could've caught that pass at the goalline but he surely wasn't expecting to be kneecapped by it. Allar's mechanics looked really bad at times. Pressure, I think.
Yes it is crazy. Especially considering Franklin has recruited well during his time at Penn State, both in high school and the portal. Not to an Ohio State level, but they probably have the worst WR group in the Big Ten.
yea, but I don't see separation... so coaching could be a part of better route running or scheme. On one of the last plays where he rolled left, it looked like Warren was the intended receiver and only receiver... I would think a play in that situation called for some options. I see that a lot... but then again don't have other insight...
Another good anecdote I heard was about Kaden Saunder “grew up in Columbus and there’s a reason they never took a sniff at him”
Not sure how PSU being a blue blood can’t do better than bringing in the 40 something and 50 something ranked WR transfers for next year either
Not saying this about Saunders but recruiting in general, there DOES exist a an element of taking people away from areas where a traditional local power didn’t recruit them (or didn’t very hard).
Now in Saunders case, just because Ohio State recruits 3 5 stars a year at his position, might give a little more leeway. He could both be a Big Ten caliber WR and yet never be seen as a starter at OSU, sure. But in general, that can be a red flag and a noticeable one. To the point where I know that coaches will reach out to the local school that isn’t pushing to investigate.
I think there are 2 issues:
There isn’t very good coaching or recruiting at the WR position.
Bad Drew is real bad.
I say this because I do think he missed a few guys last night. Not all WRs, but one at least I can think of off top of my head. And there are others running open at times.
But you can’t be as inaccurate as he was last night. Just can’t. Not going to beat anyone good with it.
Sure it IS! Those coaches brought them onto the team, coached em’, and offered somewhat glowing prognostications about them improving. Fleming was a Five Star recruit for the Bucknuts. “PennState had nine 4-star wide receivers from its last three high school recruiting classes (2022-2024)” per an AI search. Recruiting is a shaky science, but, no one could claim that our coaches have recruited or developed wide receivers effectively. Zero is the operative word here.
I've been wondering for a few years if the WRs can't get open, if they are tipping the route, or are the routes so set in stone that the DBs know the route at snap. I think there are WAY too many times the DB is inside the route, which means they know which way the cut is going. They are almost always inside our short slants. How often did we hit a short slants this season?
The Eight Million Dollar Man will never be considered the Six Million Dollar Man.
Seeing Texas's epic debacle at the goal line made me feel a little bit better about yesterday's game.
No SEC in in the final. Finebaum devastated. lol
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