Penn State and 2016 Opponents analysis, you tell us our 2016 record

[PSUGrad2006]

9-3.

 

[ellobo]

Jake Butt is long gone pal. Projected as the first, or second TE taken in the draft and a sure fire star in the show on Sundays.

Butt just announced he is returning for his senior year...hope we can still be pals

 

[rutgersal]

Wins: MD, INDY, PUR
Tossup: RUT, MINN, Iowa
Not happening: OSU ,UM, and MSU.

 

[StinkStankStunk]

Wins: MD, INDY, PUR
Tossup: RUT, MINN, Iowa
Not happening: OSU ,UM, and MSU.

Another long-lost poster (ala KingAdBuck)

RUTGERS AL!!!!

 

[21Guns]

Butt just announced he is returning for his senior year...hope we can still be pals

Hope you can find somebody to throw him the ball pal.

 

[Go M&B]

Hope you can find somebody to throw him the ball pal.

You serious? John O'Korn transferred in from Houston and from all reports would have started this year but had to sit out. He's been lighting it up in practice. He will be a pretty big upgrade next year. Plus, there is still talk of Hill transferring in. QB will not be an issue next year.

 

[ellobo]

Hope you can find somebody to throw him the ball pal.

Hey pal...a little friendly advice...maybe you should ask those that follow a program you don't follow closely what is going on instead of shooting your mouth off...as the poster above said we have O'korn AND also a rivals 100 QB redshirting this year. Butt wouldn't have come back if he didn't think there would be someone to pass him the ball...think about that...seriously think about that

 

[21Guns]

You serious? John O'Korn transferred in from Houston and from all reports would have started this year but had to sit out. He's been lighting it up in practice. He will be a pretty big upgrade next year. Plus, there is still talk of Hill transferring in. QB will not be an issue next year.

42-13.

 

[Go M&B]

42-13.

You seriously posting that score as a comeback? Hilarious.

 

[AWS1022]

Butt just announced he is returning for his senior year...hope we can still be pals

And Guns continues his perfect streak of predictions...100% wrong.

 

[ellobo]

42-13.

Is this where I'm supposed to reply with our score against you? Are you really that incapable of having an adult conversation on a message board? If you are going to troll your own board at least try harder and do something clever.

 

[PharmD Blue]

42-13.

28-16. Mic drop.

 

[21Guns]

28-16. Mic drop.

Na. Your job is to beat Ohio State.

42-13. Period. End of story.

 

[21Guns]

You seriously posting that score as a comeback? Hilarious.

Sure was. They kicked your ass up and down the field for 60 minutes non stop.

 

[Go M&B]

Sure was. They kicked your ass up and down the field for 60 minutes non stop.

Well, they did the same to you. Then there was that game where we kicked your ass.

Besides, all I did was point out our QB situation should be very good next year. Not sure why that was too much for you to handle.

 

[21Guns]

Well, they did the same to you. Then there was that game where we kicked your ass.

Besides, all I did was point out our QB situation should be very good next year. Not sure why that was too much for you to handle.

21-16 with 4 minutes left in the game="kicked our ass"? Not quite.

Next year, sure, you'll be doing the following: 1. Kicking our ass, and 2. Choking in the shoe, as always.

Harbaugh vs Ohio State: 0-1 Harbaugh vs Michigan State: 0-1

And enjoy kicking our ass next year, because in 2017, we will have a competitive offensive line, and win or lose, nobody will be "kicking" anyones ass.

 

[Go M&B]

21-16 with 4 minutes left in the game="kicked our ass"? Not quite.

Next year, sure, you'll be doing the following: 1. Kicking our ass, and 2. Choking in the shoe, as always.

Harbaugh vs Ohio State: 0-1 Harbaugh vs Michigan State: 0-1

And enjoy kicking our ass next year, because in 2017, we will have a competitive offensive line, and win or lose, nobody will be "kicking" anyones ass.

Take away one long run and you had 150 yards in total offense. Call it what you want.

Harbaugh took a crappy 5-7 team and won 9 games, with the possibility of 10. The difference in our style of play is night and day. My bet over the years is he will have a very competitive record (.500) vs. Meyer and a winning one versus Dantonio. Can you say the same?

More than anything, I simply responded to your question about UMs QBs. No flame. No ill intent. And that's too much for you to handle so you reply with osu smack? Pathetic.

 

[CDW3333]

14-0. just because I can dream

Don't you mean 15-0?

 

[21Guns]

Take away one long run and you had 150 yards in total offense. Call it what you want.

Harbaugh took a crappy 5-7 team and won 9 games, with the possibility of 10. The difference in our style of play is night and day. My bet over the years is he will have a very competitive record (.500) vs. Meyer and a winning one versus Dantonio. Can you say the same?

More than anything, I simply responded to your question about UMs QBs. No flame. No ill intent. And that's too much for you to handle so you reply with osu smack? Pathetic.

You are here to troll, and I exposed you. Period.

 

[Go M&B]

You are here to troll, and I exposed you. Period.

That makes zero sense. I think all that HGH is clouding your head. Now get back to your bench press...

 

[wilbury]

7-5. I don't see it being any worse than that but I can't see us doing better than 8-4 either.

 

[21Guns]

That makes zero sense. I think all that HGH is clouding your head. Now get back to your bench press...

Get back to your own board.

 

[PSU&Trout]

Below is Penn St and each team on our record, their current ranking, W/L in 2015, and what they lose according to their depth chart at http://www.ourlads.com/ncaa-football-depth-charts/ as well as a listing of those players (including Juniors) expected to be in the NFL Draft (CBS Sports mock at http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings).

You have the data, now you provide the informed analysis. Tell us our 2016 record given this information and potentially what you know about what teams have waiting in the wings. It will be our version of Steele's magazine a bit early.


DRAFT Rank/Name/Position/Position Rank/Measurables/Draft Round

Penn St unranked currently, 7-5, losing 5 Senior starters (already lost Lucas) and potentially 2 2nd Rd Jrs
44 Austin Johnson DT 7 Penn State rJr 6-3 325 2
50 Christian Hackenberg QB 4 Penn State Jr 6-4 236 2
55 Carl Nassib DE 8 Penn State rSr 6-6 270 2
105 Anthony Zettel DE 11 Penn State rSr 6-4 278 3-4
201 Kyle Carter TE 10 Penn State rSr 6-3 242 5-6
229 Jordan Lucas

SS 9 Penn State Sr 6-0 202 6-7
389 Trevor Williams CB 40 Penn State Sr 6-0 196 ––
624 Tarow Barney DT 45 Penn State Sr 6-1 310 ––
642 Angelo Mangiro C 23 Penn State rSr 6-3 315 ––
991 Ben Kline OLB 78 Penn State rSr 6-2 238


Kent State, unranked, 3-9, losing 5 senior starters according to depth chart
279 Trayion Durham FB 5 Kent State rSr 6-1 248 7-FA
789 Nate Terhune DT 57 Kent State rSr 6-4 270 ––
958 Anthony Melchiori P 16 Kent State Sr 5-11 190 ––

Pitt, unranked, 8-4, losing 7 Sr starters and likely Boyd in the 2nd Rd
47 Tyler Boyd WR 6 Pittsburgh Jr 6-2 200 2
354 J.P. Holtz TE 19 Pittsburgh Sr 6-3 250 ––
413 Darryl Render DT 32 Pittsburgh Sr 6-2 300 ––
505 Lafayette Pitts CB 49 Pittsburgh rSr 5-10 195 ––
845 Nicholas Grigsby OLB 69 Pittsburgh rSr 6-0 220 ––
866 Artie Rowell C 30 Pittsburgh rSr 6-1 310 ––
888 Ejuan Price OLB 71 Pittsburgh rSr 5-11 250

Temple, #22, 10-2, losing 10 Sr starters according to depth chart
68 Tyler Matakevich OLB 9 Temple Sr 6-0 232 2-3
243 Matt Ioannidis DT 21 Temple Sr 6-3 292 7
349 Kyle Friend C 11 Temple Sr 6-1 305 7-FA
635 Hershey Walton DT 46 Temple rSr 6-3 314 ––
947 Tavon Young CB 92 Temple Sr 5-9 180 ––


Michigan, #15, 9-3, losing 15 Sr starters including P and K and likely losing Butt in the 2nd Rd
49 Jake Butt TE 1 Michigan Jr 6-5 248 2
265 James Ross OLB 23 Michigan Sr 6-1 232 7-FA
324 Joe Kerridge FB 8 Michigan rSr 5-11 249 7-FA
381 Jake Rudock QB 23 Michigan rSr 6-2 208 ––
391 Graham Glasgow C 13 Michigan rSr 6-5 303 ––
415 Desmond Morgan OLB 34 Michigan Sr 6-1 236 ––
419 Joe Bolden ILB 21 Michigan Sr 6-3 232 ––
493 Wayne Lyons CB 48 Michigan rSr 6-0 193 ––
523 Jarrod Wilson FS 22 Michigan Sr 6-1 210 ––
751 Royce Jenkins-Stone OLB 60 Michigan Sr 6-2 240 ––

Minnesota, unranked, 5-7, losing 11 Sr starters including P
96 Briean Boddy-Calhoun CB 11 Minnesota rSr 5-10 189 3
146 Eric Murray CB 18 Minnesota Sr 5-11 196 4-5
175 De'Vondre Campbell OLB 16 Minnesota rSr 6-4 241 5
226 Theiren Cockran DE 20 Minnesota rSr 6-5 257 6-7
370 Peter Mortell P 7 Minnesota rSr 6-1 192 ––
392 Rodrick Williams Jr. RB 31 Minnesota Sr 5-10 229 ––
628 Josh Campion OG 37 Minnesota rSr 6-4 310 ––
830 Antonio Johnson SS 37 Minnesota Sr 5-11 212 ––
872 Miles Thomas FB 26 Minnesota Sr 5-10 250 ––
957 Brian Bobek C 34 Minnesota rSr 6-1 298 ––

Maryland, unranked, 3-9, losing 7 Sr. starters and maybe two Jrs (Rds 3/4,5/6)
127 William Likely CB 15 Maryland Jr 5-7 176 3-4
197 Yannick Ngakoue OLB 17 Maryland Jr 6-2 250 5-6
228 Brad Craddock K 2 Maryland Sr 6-0 192 6-7
244 Sean Davis CB 28 Maryland Sr 6-1 200 7
506 Anthony Nixon FS 21 Maryland Sr 6-0 205 ––
576 Brandon Ross RB 44 Maryland rSr 5-10 205 ––
853 A.J. Hendy SS 38 Maryland rSr 6-1 207 ––

BYE

Ohio St, #6, 11-1, losing 9 Sr. starters including K and maybe as many as 6 Jrs
1 Joey Bosa DE 1 Ohio State Jr 6-5 275 1
13 Taylor Decker OT 3 Ohio State Sr 6-7 315 1
16 Ezekiel Elliott RB 1 Ohio State Jr 6-0 225 1
24 Michael Thomas WR 2 Ohio State rJr 6-3 210 1
26 Adolphus Washington DT 5 Ohio State Sr 6-4 290 1-2
46 Vonn Bell SS 2 Ohio State Jr 5-11 205 2
51 Joshua Perry OLB 7 Ohio State Sr 6-4 254 2
78 Pat Elflein OG 5 Ohio State rJr 6-3 300 2-3
81 Cardale Jones QB 6 Ohio State rJr 6-5 250 2-3
95 Braxton Miller WR 12 Ohio State rSr 6-1 215 3
114 Nick Vannett TE 6 Ohio State rSr 6-6 260 3-4
364 Corey Smith

WR 44 Ohio State rSr 6-0 195 ––
383 Chase Farris OT 29 Ohio State rSr 6-5 310 ––
479 Jacoby Boren C 16 Ohio State Sr 6-1 285 ––
671 Tommy Schutt DT 49 Ohio State Sr 6-2 290 ––

Purdue, unranked, 2-10, losing 8 Sr starters including K
211 Frankie Williams CB 25 Purdue rSr 5-9 190 6
452 Robert Kugler C 15 Purdue rSr 6-3 295 ––
604 Ryan Watson DT 43 Purdue Sr 6-2 298 ––
615 Anthony Brown CB 61 Purdue Sr 5-11 190 ––
834 Danny Anthrop WR 115 Purdue Sr 5-11 191 ––
844 Paul Griggs K 12 Purdue Sr 6-1 196 ––

Iowa, #4, 12-0, losing 12 Sr starters including P and K and potentially losing King in Rd 3/4
125 *Desmond King CB 14 Iowa Jr 5-11 200 3-4
159 Jordan Lomax FS 5 Iowa rSr 5-10 205 4-5
194 Jordan Walsh OG 11 Iowa rSr 6-3 290 5-6
284 Austin Blythe C 8 Iowa rSr 6-2 290 7-FA
304 Cole Fisher OLB 25 Iowa rSr 6-2 236 7-FA
366 Jordan Canzeri RB 28 Iowa rSr 5-9 192 ––
374 Henry Krieger Coble TE 21 Iowa rSr 6-4 250 ––
418 Nate Meier DE 34 Iowa Sr 6-2 252 ––
444 Tevaun Smith WR 54 Iowa Sr 6-1 205

Indiana, unranked, 6-6, losing 8 Sr starters including K
36 Jason Spriggs OT 6 Indiana Sr 6-6 305 1-2
153 Nate Sudfeld QB 10 Indiana Sr 6-6 240 4-5
514 Michael Cooper TE 28 Indiana rSr 6-4 257 ––
796 Zack Shaw OLB 64 Indiana rSr 6-3 252 ––
915 Nick Mangieri DE 69 Indiana Sr 6-5 270

Rutgers, unranked, 4-8, losing 9 Sr starters including P and K
84 Leonte Carroo WR 10 Rutgers Sr 6-0 205 2-3
206 Paul James RB 18 Rutgers rSr 6-0 205 6
496 Keith Lumpkin OT 39 Rutgers rSr 6-7 310 ––
700 Quentin Gause OLB 55 Rutgers rSr 6-1 226 ––
793 Sam Bergen FB 23 Rutgers rSr 6-0 235 ––
930 Kaiwan Lewis ILB 44 Rutgers Sr 6-0 228 ––

Michigan St, #5, 11-1, losing 11 Sr starters and likely LT Conklin in Rd 1
20 Connor Cook

QB 3 Michigan State rSr 6-4 220 1
22 Jack Conklin OT 4 Michigan State rJr 6-6 318 1
42 Shilique Calhoun DE 7 Michigan State rSr 6-5 252 2
152 Aaron Burbridge WR 22 Michigan State Sr 6-1 208 4-5
166 Jack Allen C 5 Michigan State rSr 6-2 298 5
190 Joel Heath DT 17 Michigan State rSr 6-5 296 5-6
250 Arjen Colquhoun CB 29 Michigan State rSr 6-1 197 7
297 RJ Williamson

SS 13 Michigan State rSr 6-0 215 7-FA
329 DeAnthony Arnett WR 41 Michigan State rSr 5-11 182 7-FA
477 Darien Harris OLB 39 Michigan State rSr 6-0 220 ––
552 Taybor Pepper LS 4 Michigan State Sr 6-5 230 ––
569 Trevon Pendleton FB 15 Michigan State rSr 5-11 250 ––
573 Lawrence Thomas DT 40 Michigan State rSr 6-3 300 ––
746 Donavon Clark OG 44 Michigan State rSr 6-3 317
862 Macgarrett Kings Jr. WR 120 Michigan State Sr 5-10 186 ––

Hack back, 8-4
Good replacement 7-5
Not so good replacement 5-7

 

[Jakey_John]

Does Jakr Butt wear 88 because it resembles a butt? I always wonder if he does that to make light of the fact that butt is on his jersey.

 

[21Guns]

Harbaugh's act hasn't grown old yet, but trust me, it will. He wears out his welcome, everywhere he goes, within 4 years.

 

[ellobo]

Harbaugh's act hasn't grown old yet, but trust me, it will. He wears out his welcome, everywhere he goes, within 4 years.

Nice...I was worried about that until now...since you are predicting it I know it will never happen

 

[21Guns]

Nice...I was worried about that until now...since you are predicting it I know it will never happen

Everyone is predicting it.
Try reading.

 

[ellobo]

Everyone is predicting it.
Try reading.

Except not everyone is...unless by everyone you mean you and the many voices inside you head

 

[21Guns]

Except not everyone is...unless by everyone you mean you and the many voices inside you head

No, I mean everyone. Read any sports writer who knows anything about the game.

 

[ellobo]

No, I mean everyone. Read any sports writer who knows anything about the game.

Do you mean the same ones that said Harbaugh would not take the Michigan job in the first place? Listen little buddy...I think you are confusing...well in your words "knows anything about the game"...national writers with opinions with people who actually are close to the situation, know Harbaugh and have actual first hand knowledge of what is going on.

BTW...did those same "knows anything about football" writers convince you that Jake Butt was leaving early? Don't you think you should have learned your lesson by now little buddy?

 

[Go M&B]

Harbaugh's act hasn't grown old yet, but trust me, it will. He wears out his welcome, everywhere he goes, within 4 years.

He does? He wore out his welcome at San Diego and Stanford? Is there a topic you know anything about?

 

[dbsteel]

I think next year will be rough..... 6-6, 7-5 at best. Mainly because of a new QB and lack of veteran depth still. It's likely the worst possible year to renew a rivalry with Pitt.

 

[21Guns]

He does? He wore out his welcome at San Diego and Stanford? Is there a topic you know anything about?

Damn right. He has worn out his welcome everywhere he goes. With everyone.

 

[Go M&B]

Damn right. He has worn out his welcome everywhere he goes. With everyone.

What makes you say he wore out his welcome at San Diego and Stanford?

 

[ellobo]

What makes you say he wore out his welcome at San Diego and Sanfod?

If 21guns posted that tomorrow the sun would rise and there would be world peace I'd go find a bomb shelter immediately and await armageddon.

 

[Jeismeister]

would not be stunned if temple is 11-1 next season with the 1 loss to psu:

http://www.rantsports.com/ncaa-football/2015/12/17/temple-football-looks-to-be-even-better-in-2016/

 

[PharmD Blue]

Na. Your job is to beat Ohio State.

42-13. Period. End of story.

28-16. Mic drop

 

[Westcoast24]

Na. Your job is to beat Ohio State.

42-13. Period. End of story.

And your job is to beat Temple.

To all the rest on this board this post was only meant for 21 brain cells not the rest of you.

 

[Jeismeister]

I think they beat Temple and, due to the aac, it will be a quality win.

 

[21Guns]

would not be stunned if temple is 11-1 next season with the 1 loss to psu:

http://www.rantsports.com/ncaa-football/2015/12/17/temple-football-looks-to-be-even-better-in-2016/

They are losing every leader on that defense next year.