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Funny just saw some turd here yesterday blasting how awful PSU's OOC is.

It is awful, but it was mostly crafted when the sanctions were supposed to be longer term than they ended up being. I love that we are setting up our future schedule with home and homes against legit P5 schools. Auburn, VT and WVU -- SEC, ACC and Big XII -- is a nice mix. 2030-31 is a long way out though. Texas might be a conference game by then. Or a Pac 12 opponent.
 
It is awful, but it was mostly crafted when the sanctions were supposed to be longer term than they ended up being. I love that we are setting up our future schedule with home and homes against legit P5 schools. Auburn, VT and WVU -- SEC, ACC and Big XII -- is a nice mix. 2030-31 is a long way out though. Texas might be a conference game by then. Or a Pac 12 opponent.
Not too worried about what was setup a decade ago.
 
Funny just saw some turd here yesterday blasting how awful PSU's OOC is.

We play 4 Top 15 teams this year even with a weak OOC.

Oklahoma plays none. Miami plays none. Alabama plays one. Etc.

You want to be in the playoffs, our OOC is fine. We have a much tougher road to the playoffs than most of our Top 10 competition.
 
Funny just saw some turd here yesterday blasting how awful PSU's OOC is.
The schedule has been awful in recent years. Pending games in upcoming years doesn't change that fact. But a difficult OOC is more for the fans, it doesn't really help in the eyes of the playoff committee as the last 2 seasons have shown.

As an Austinite, this is good news for me. Hopefully I'm still around in 14 years when this is actually played.
 
The schedule has been awful in recent years. Pending games in upcoming years doesn't change that fact. But a difficult OOC is more for the fans, it doesn't really help in the eyes of the playoff committee as the last 2 seasons have shown.

As AustiNit this is good news for me. Hopefully I'm still around in 14 years when this is actually played.

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Not too worried about what was setup a decade ago.

I'm not either. There was also some changes that had to be overcome -- switching Rutgers from a OOC game to a conference game, and the 9 game conference schedule. That stuff along with the sanctions made this very much of a transition era. And all of the home and homes we are playing now were scheduled before this staff was hired. To say Franklin is trying to schedule weak opponents isn't accurate if you look ahead.
 
Wouldn't want to live there, but Austin is a nice place to visit. This is one of the few road games left that I would definitely go to.
 
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Right. You need to look at the entire schedule, not just the OOC.

No because teams don't control the conference slate
Did playing in a strong conference stop Ohio State from playing TCU and Oregon State? How about Michigan from playing Notre Dame?
We need to do better and it looks like those in charge see that as well.
Playing Pitt was a mistake...end of story...stop defending a bad decision.
 
We play Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Wisconsin, and Iowa this year. How is that awful?

Everyone sleeps on Northwestern, but they won 10 games last year and we smoked them.

Do you not comprehend non-conference?
It's a shame we don't play NW this year...but, then again, we don't control that
 
We play Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Wisconsin, and Iowa this year. How is that awful?

Everyone sleeps on Northwestern, but they won 10 games last year and we smoked them.
The OOC schedule specifically, which is the part we control. We're playing one middling P5 team in Pitt, and a bunch of creampuffs. But the CFP committee has shown that they value wins and losses above all, even if the losses are due to playing a tougher schedule. Look at the situation with PSU vs. Washington 2 years ago. Washington got in on the basis of having 1 fewer loss, but their OOC schedule was an abomination, one of the easiest in the country. Had PSU not scheduled Pitt that year likely would have had the same record as UW and then gotten into the playoff. Having a tough OOC schedule if you play in a good conference like the B1G isn't needed in the eyes of the committee, but it sure makes it more interesting for us fans. Of course if you schedule a tough OOC and still win all or more than your peers, then you remove all doubt (e.g., OSU in 2016).
 
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No because teams don't control the conference slate
Did playing in a strong conference stop Ohio State from playing TCU and Oregon State? How about Michigan from playing Notre Dame?
We need to do better and it looks like those in charge see that as well.
Playing Pitt was a mistake...end of story...stop defending a bad decision.

Oregon State?? LOL. They are worse than pitt.
 

If I recall, and I could be wrong.... a number of years ago the B1G decided that they wanted to pair up with the MAC for at least one OOC game per season. What the exact reasons were, I don't know, outside of the obvious geographic advantages.

This season, only Ohio State does not play a MAC team. All other B1G schools play at least one. Ohio State playing Oregon State - a P5 school - is nice and all, but they play Tulane instead of a MAC team. Tulane is about as ho-hum of an intersectional OOC opponent for a B1G school as can be. My guess is, that swap is a toss-up at best for most Ohio State fans.

Assuming the B1G East stays as tough as it is for a while, if we get to and stick to our OOC approach of playing one 'name' P5 opponent (not Pitt, but VT, WVa, Auburn, Texas, etc.), plus a MAC, and then fill in the 3rd OOC with either a higer-ranked G5 or a moderate P5 team, we'll have a really good schedule more often than not. There are enough decent MAC teams to make us take notice, ala App State, and a variety of intersectional teams that make for something interesting.
(Not necessarily San Jose or Nevada, though...:rolleyes:. And can we please bag that Idaho game next season when our home schedule needs a little boost in favor of someone who is still in 1A?! How about Vandy?! UNC? UVa? Or an AAC school.... Temple?!?!)
 
Not too worried about what was setup a decade ago.
CFB schedule facts:

11 B1G teams play at least 10 Power 5 foes, 12 if counting BYU as P5; 3 play 11

9 B12 teams play 10 P5 foes

8 P12 teams play 10/more P5, 10 if counting BYU

5 ACC teams play 10 P5; Notre Dame plays 10 P5

0 SEC teams play 10 P5 games; Arkansas plays 8 P5

— Scott Dochterman (@ScottDochterman) August 20, 2018


I would say the schedule is fine.
 
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Hey moron, I was responding directly to this:

"The schedule has been awful in recent years."

That made no mention of specifically the OOC.
Actually I quoted a post that refers specifically to the OOC schedule, so it's implied that I'm also talking about the OOC schedule.
 
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That's their SECOND game...that's better than App State

Interesting statement. I wonder what the Vegas line on the game would be? If at Oregon State, then maybe the Beavers are a TD favorite. If neutral or at App State.... I don't know.

I think they are a closer match than what many may think based on certain assumptions. But who knows?
 
An OT aside:

I heard from my Rutgres dentist that Rutgres has all but wrapped up a game or two vs. them Mighty Monmouth Hawks. (My reply: "Did Princeton say 'no thanks'?")
It'll be an all-out Battle for the Garden State, with a battle for signing a handful of 2-star NJ prospects on the line.

Not sure when they are scheduled - 2020 maybe? But the early line is Rutgres -6.
 
Also more proof we're afraid to play Pitt since we're dodging them by playing Auburn, VT, WVU, etc.
The only way we should ever schedule the pitters again is if they agree to 3 games at Beaver Stadium to one at their rented stadium. They are no better than Akron, Kent State, etc. They aren't a good enough football program for us to offer them home and home.
 
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Interesting statement. I wonder what the Vegas line on the game would be? If at Oregon State, then maybe the Beavers are a TD favorite. If neutral or at App State.... I don't know.

I think they are a closer match than what many may think based on certain assumptions. But who knows?

Okay fair enough...which non-conference slate is more difficult as a whole

Pitt, App State & Kent State
TCU, Oregon State & Tulane
 
Because our current OOC schedule is awful....Texas along with Auburn and Va Tech is what we need to be doing. That doesn't make playing Pitt any less stupid
Yep, Pitt may be awful...but in last few years they have beaten Clemson on the road, Miami, and us. They've beaten more top 5 teams than many other teams on other team's OOC schedule.
 
Would love to see another intersectional series with the PAC 12 like we had in the early 90’s. Get all teams (or as many as possible) for early OOC games and you have a bit of a B1G/PAC 12 football challenge.
 
Okay fair enough...which non-conference slate is more difficult as a whole

Pitt, App State & Kent State
TCU, Oregon State & Tulane

This season, Ohio State's OOC is more challenging than ours overall.
At this point of the season:

TCU > Pitt. (TCU is a real good OOC matchup of pre-season ranked teams; Pitt being a far more emotion-driven game for fans, though)

App State = or > Oregon State (App State has more fan appeal than Oregon State, if for no more than the novelty aspect they bring. App State will compete for their league title and be in a bowl... not sure Oregon State will win the needed 6 games to reach a bowl. P5 is not always better than G5 as a matchup, though).

Tulane > Kent State (low fan interest both cases; at least the average Kent State fan can easily travel to the game if they choose. Tulane has some expectation for improvement this season over last; not so much for Kent State. But, the game is on my birthday, so we have that going for us!)
 
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This season, Ohio State's OOC is more challenging than ours overall.
At this point of the season:

TCU > Pitt. (TCU is a real good OOC matchup of pre-season ranked teams; Pitt being a far more emotion-driven game for fans, though)

App State = or > Oregon State (App State has more fan appeal than Oregon State, if for no more than the novelty aspect they bring. App State will compete for their league title and be in a bowl... not sure Oregon State will win the needed 6 games to reach a bowl. P5 is not always better than G5 as a matchup, though).

Tulane > Kent State (low fan interest both cases; at least the average Kent State fan can easily travel to the game if they choose. Tulane has some expectation for improvement this season over last; not so much for Kent State. But, the game is on my birthday, so we have that going for us!)

Fair breakdown...again, my only real issue is with us scheduling Pitt as our "big game"...that just can't happen moving forward. Hopefully it won't
 
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