Lay off the crack, dude. It will kill you. But cultists are going to cult. Try lithium.
Football Penn State set to hire Ohio State DC Jim Knowles as Defensive Coordinator
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Well things changed significantly in this hunt and was on again and off again multiple times. It was like trying to follow the bouncing ball. I give Franklin and company credit for not giving up on his first choice especially after several people said thanks but no thanks, I'll take a raise where I am or have found greener pastures elsewhere.
This was nothing short of a coup and I don't buy into the idea that OSU just let him go. Some have suggested that. Franklin and company did what they had to do to get the best DC they could possibly get. But it does make one OSU coach happy and that would be LJ SR lol. Per friends at OSU Knowles was known to keep LJ on a short leash and it pissed him off.
Now if we could just get the WO thing straightened out!
But it does beg the question if a guy or two on D will follow him. Plus, I can't wait to see how adding Knowles might/will boost recruiting on that side of the ball.
Now my hope is CJF will hand over ALL In-game decisions and play calls to the OC and DC.
He can do what he does best which is A LOT including recruiting, leadership, getting the boys to play hard and stay focused, advocating for his team and coaches, working with the parents and families of his players, being the face of the program and just plain working his ass off.
If he does all that, and leaves the in-game calls to the OC and DC, I like our chances.
He can do what he does best which is A LOT including recruiting, leadership, getting the boys to play hard and stay focused, advocating for his team and coaches, working with the parents and families of his players, being the face of the program and just plain working his ass off.
If he does all that, and leaves the in-game calls to the OC and DC, I like our chances.
Like who? Larry Johnson, James Laurinaitis, and Tim Walton are the position coaches. LJ is worshipped by his dudes, and both Laurinaitis and Walton are former Buckeyes who are elite recruiters.
Caleb Downs is the obvious one we'd want. There's no chance in hell that's happening. He's making ridiculous money at OSU -- right up there with Jeremiah Smith. Sonny Styles is probably the other and would be an amazing fit with Knowles defense. But he's from Columbus. Not likely.
Agreed.
The skeptic in me says that Franklin will always be Franklin. He'll need to fight the urge and let his coordinators do their work.
Winning the whole thing still hinges mostly on the offensive side of the ball, though.
It doesn’t work like that. Please read: COACHING SALARIES AND NIL ARE NOT THE SAME MONEY.
But didn't donors make a big difference in getting us the salary offer we needed? Those same donors could use that money for NIL collectives, no?
Regardless, it's not an either/or, but instead a "both".
Our problem is that even if we offer some stud WR a bunch of money, that's no guarantee of anything. Obviously everybody wants stud WRs, but those who are actually in a position to leave are probably going to places with pass-happy systems. The notion that recruits and players only care about the highest bidder is true for some but clearly not all.
Also, Styles dad played at OSU in the 90s and he went ton a ton of OSU games when he was younger
You know nothing.
Franklin fought to take this program - which was decimated - and pull it up by the bootstraps. He fought to rebuild its reputation. He fought the Joebots. He fought for better facilities. He fought in a climate where there wasn't a ton of talent in his backyard, and nearly infinite scholarships to give. He fought to bring top assistants in here. He fought, in a short period of time, to take this run-down program with HUGE warts and turn it back into a top performer. And all you pathetic, whiny biznatches can do is scream that you deserve more, and he needs to go. If you had any self-awareness, you'd be utterly embarrassed of yourself.
He happens to be 100% right. He didn't do well at tOSU, Texas, nor did he call plays at Ok St. He was never on the level of Knowles.
Yeah, he's not following Knowles.
One guy that could make sense is their LB CJ Hicks, former 5* recruit who fell down the depth chart. Super athletic edge rusher type, but struggled at LB and is better suited as a jack. With Larry Johnson winning out in terms of how the DL was used, Hicks didn't really get a shot. He's probably perfect for the JK system.
I don't know enough about their incoming guys to know if Knowles has strong ties with any of them.
'We could really get Jim?': Jim Knowles, Anthony Poindexter and Penn State's sizzling start to the offseason
In perhaps the biggest offseason move so far, Penn State hired away Ohio State defensive coordinator Jim Knowles to make him the highest-paid coordinator in college football history.
sports.yahoo.com
There's plenty of money for players now, and Penn State isn't remotely done in the portal.
The answer referred to which Ohio State players could be in play for a transfer. I didn't specify Knowles as the only reason. Get a better attitude.
Thank you. My post is a direct reference to insiders on TOS that said two bucks are in play and PSU is a candidate. That was all I was saying.
We need a middle linebacker… maybe he can bring one over from columbus.
I am absolutely correct you jack off. Proven with receipts. Now STFU and go back in your hole.
There is absolutely no chance Carnell Tate is coming here. I stand by it -- get a better source.
He just turned down big money from Oregon and Texas -- much better passing systems than ours. He's not leaving Ohio State. He's super close with Brian Hartline.
Amid our euphoria of a very good offseason, let's at least remain realistic.
So now it's Larry Johnson "winning out" and Ryan Day "taking over".
I could have sworn the night after the Buckeyes beat Notre Dame that Herbstreit called Coach Knowles "the best defensive coordinator in the nation", and that he is regarded as "the best assistant coach in America".
Damn, all this time he was the Wizard of Oz hiding behind the curtain while Coach Day and LJ were out there calling the defense every down and game planning to somehow stop Tennessee, Oregon, Texas, and Notre Dame in 4 consecutive weeks
😂 😂 😂
You're a weird dude. I'm honestly not sure what you're even responding to.
Our own insiders have reported (over on On3) that the Larry Johnson stuff was what cracked the door open for all of this. The media has been all over this for like a year. Is that even a debate? I don't think anybody contests he's a great DC, but he clearly didn't get the control he wanted at OSU. That's literally why we're having this conversation now, LOL.
I don't know, maybe he can coach one up? I'm trying to recall the incoming freshman thoughts on Captain Jack? Is it even possible that Coach Knowles has something to do with his development?
And you might be a fake fan. We are over here celebrating the most unlikely thing happening in this program in a decade and you are out here spinning it like a Buckeye. SMH
And the reason why Ohio State became great on defense this year was BECAUSE of Knowles, not LJ. You suggesting otherwise counters every national expert who watched football this year.
Jack Sawyer was a traditional 4-3 DE.
Did you watch Ohio State at all? Sawyer was one of the guys that was going to go pro if Larry Johnson left after last offseason.
No, I actually watch the game and look at things objectively. If you're going to comment on stuff, at least be informed of what you're commenting on. And some "insider" claiming we're getting Carnell Tate probably shouldn't be believed.
And Kirk Herbstreit and Joel Klatt saying after the Indiana game about how Knowles has "taken over control of this defense and calling his game", that's just bullshit compared to what "ClevelandBuck46" has to say on a message board after their coach just left for a program that had 10 pages per thread of laughing emojis about how everyone needs to relax because Knowles isn't leaving Columbus". I can do this all day. You ain't raining on the parade dude. Facts are on my side.
Didn't claim he wasn't, closet buck, 😂. You can come out now though and kick it with Lando, who is back in his basement trying to downgrade the hire also.
LOL. The classic troll claim.
"Downgrade the hire". I've probably said 10 times on here I love the hire. I've also taken the time to actually educate myself on why this hire occurred in the first place.
Lean in closer so I can whisper this to you.
It's not because Knowles suddenly dreamt of being a Nittany Lion.
The difference between you and me is that while we both love the hire, you apparently are ready to hang banners for offseason championships. Me? Let's see how we fix our WR mess and beat a top-5 team for the first time in a decade. Because we'll need to do that about 4 times next year, and it's not our defense that's the problem.
LOL.
I feel pretty good about LB, though. Knowles runs a 4-2-5, and I think Rojas is going to have a chance to be really, really good in this system. I'm also interested to see Enai White, because he's PERFECT for that kind of stand-up edge rusher position. At least he was out of HS -- I didn't see him much at Texas A&M, but A&M had all kinds of complicating factors there.
So I'm not as worried about that position as some.
Who might
Money talks and Girlfriends Walk, OR move to State College, lol.
And if you had ANY reading comprehension you would see how I COMPLETELY UNDERLINED the reasons for the losses to Ohio State were on the DEFENSE not the offense.
I don't think enough of you to bother cutting and pasting it but news flash Debbie Downer, from 2017 to 2024, nearly every loss to Ohio State came directly from defensive failures more than offensive failures.
But you keep your bs line going Bucky and just disregard those 39 points in 17, those 27 points in 18, those 28 points in 19, or the 38 in 20, or those 33 points in 21, or those ,FORTY FOUR in 22 with TWENTY EIGHT coming within EIGHT MINUTES in the fourth quarter in 22, or those 189 yards to one receiver in 23, or that final six minutes allowing them to get six consecutive first downs without a pass this year.
Like I said, all day dude.
And I am not handing us the trophy next year. I am saying that DEFENSE held us back from championship football more than offensive, and that we have fixed that problem by hiring the best assistant coach in football in a coaching hire that has caused shock waves across college football. Nobody on here is claiming the natty, but most of us are celebrating, while you are searching for negatives. Fact.
So let me get this straight.
We held OSU's offense to 20 this year, 20 last year, and we held the offense in check for most of the 2022 game until Tuimoloau went nuts late and opened up that game. We held that 2021 Stroud/Olave/Wilson team to 26 points on offense, and held their 2019 team to 28........the team that averaged 48 a game. And we held that Haskins team to 27.
And you think our problem has been defense?
Not the ridiculous goal line attempt in this year's game? Or Clifford's pick fest in 2022? Or Allar's abortion of a performance last year? Or the fact that in 2019 the only thing that worked was Will Levis running QB power? That game would have been 42-3 if not for our defense forcing a bunch of fumbles. Wade in particular kept us in that one.
Look, I'm all for improving everywhere on both sides of the ball. But winning a title next year requires the most improvement on offense, not defense.
Actually, his favorite is three safeties, but we will see how it plays out in the spring. As far as I'm concerned that 4-2-5 a glorified prevent defense should leave with Tom Allen and only show its ugly head occasionally when the situation calls for it.
I think we could be OK in the middle if two guys come back completely healthy and ready to go. But we need to bring a good one in who can contribute right away or possibly win the job.
Against Ohio State? Damn right it's the defense. And your claim of 26 because of the scoop and score makes zero sense when you consider that Clifford had maybe his greatest game ever in the shoe taking that offense to 24 points with one receiver and an average line. Penn State has lost to OHIO State because of defense failure more than offensive failures. The story line in every one of those games involves Penn State unable to get a defensive stop when they needed it. Fact.
Damn I could have sworn that Ohio State just won a national championship because their defense stopped Texas on four downs inside the five with a 99 yard scoop and score, and before doing that, completely shutting down a record setting Oregon offense in the rose bowl. My bad 😂
All day
