Football Penn State vs. West Virginia - GAMEDAY THREAD
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He shouldn't be complaining about anything
He doesn’t have to worry about having that choice. Why is he still a head coach? WVU deserves better,
I laid 20.5. When we got that first down I figured I was toast and they'd run the clock out. Not saying that's why we did it but I'm glad we did.
I didn't see him taking knees on their final TD drive. They also burnt a 2 pt play on our 3rd string defense. They then tried an onside kick.
And we were in the wrong letting our backup QB get reps? What an ašṣ. If you wanted us to take a knee, take one yourself.
Based on the fact that I don’t think Pitt is very good. I’m sure you would be saying the same thing if PSU played Pitt and not WVU. I lived in WV for a lot of years and I’ve followed WVU for years, so I know a bit about their team. Even if they didn’t play PSU this year, I would think they they were going to have a decent year this season. It has nothing to do with playing us.
Maybe he shouldn’t have kept calling time outs at the end. If you want to play until the final whistle, be ready to play.
Maybe he would have been happier if we kicked a meaningless FU field goal on 4th?
It’s tough to say. They actually play a fairly tough schedule and kudos to them for going ooc with both pitt and PSU. I am counting 6-7 wins for wvu
Does it really matter in the big picture to lose 38-15 instead of 31-15? Not really. Personally, I would have taken a knee but the backups were in and WVU was still playing to the end. They weren’t taking a knee when they had the ball late.
That said, you can be sure next year that WVU fans and media will be portraying this as if it was some sort of unforgivable offense that must be avenged.
Tell you what. Let's wait until the end of the season and we'll discuss this again? Stop guessing the results of this season.
Agreed.
Next year, half that team won't be there. Truly shocked Gallagher didn't see a snap. If Brown doesn't win 7 games, he is likely fired and Gallagher probably hits the portal (and I think we could get him second time around).
It’s Stony Brook first of all, and dumping the OLD Eastern rivals does mean play them. Try to think more.
The DT room isn't impressive and hasn't been for a couple yrs now...save P.J., it's the only position JF hasn't brought in top flight recruits in droves. I get crucified on here by the sensitive ones who can't take criticism of JF, or more specifically, any time the DTs are brought up. Can those guys step up....sure they can. But, as to date, we've seen all but Artis play, and none IMO are road graters who change the LOS.
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I don't think Pitt is very good either. I just think they're better than WVU. At least we'll see in 2 weeks but Greene has to play better or they won't win.
I think our defense had a little bit to do with how Greene played and Pitt doesn’t have our defense.
The whole thing is a tempest in a teapot - CJF clearly wanted some meaningful action for BP. Pribula came in with 3:34 remaining and WVU still had TOs - CJF wanted him to feel real game pressure of producing some offense and not give the ball back to WVU (who was not completely out of the game if PSU goes 3-&-out). Pribula did exactly what needed to be done - he moved the ball, picked up 1st Downs and kept the ball out of WVUs hands. The fact that WVU couldn't stop Pribula on a QB Draw on 4th Down (on a play that had to be run as the Game Clock exceeded the Play Clock) is not Pribula's fault. No way should CJF have asked Pribula to take a knee, have his drive fail and let WVU run the last play of the game - no way do you do that to Pribula who was merely doing what he was supposed to do against the WVU 1st Team Defense.
I don't think it matters what defense Greene goes against we'll see the very similar results.
Plus everyone knows that window dressing is somewhat important these days if you're a playoff contender.
Agree. Can't have a weak link and be a contender. How does it get better at this point? Isn't it more of a strength and conditioning / size kind of position? I'd be concerned that OSU and Michigan could just pound the middle, keep Allar off the field, and we would be unable to stop them. Defense then wears down and we lose like we did last year during the 4th quarter.
We are kind of bend but don't break from what I saw. I think it will be hard to grind it all the way down the field on us but that is not necessary to beat us.
Problem is Mich and OSU have better offensive playmakers than WVU. So they will pound us in the middle of the line, then hit the big play. Was hoping for the D-Line to make a statement with at least some disruptive plays (tfls or a sack here or there). Did not see any of this.
Here is the funny thing, at the open practice it was said the D was way ahead of the O. Not what I saw last night. I would think Singleton and Allen with Allar calling the signals could carve up our D in practice. Maybe simply because the D knows all of our plays helps them.
First of all, WVU has a very good OL - their C is an AA Candidate and both their Guards are very good. PSU's rush defense held WVU RBs to 75 yards on 25 Carrie's (3.0 ypc) - not sure what you were watching.
WV got behind. if the game was a one score game, do you think we could have stopped them running the football, I don't think so. Illinois in two weeks will be the test.
I share your concern about our strength at DT but Illinois only ran for 163 yds against Toledo. That's just one game but it might be an indication that their running game isn't as strong as you think.
Bad first games only count for Penn State…every other team is allowed to have flaws early in the season, but we’re not.
And struggled against a MAC team but yes let's be worried about a team we'll be favored against by double digits.
FGs are a legitimate concern. I think punting will be OK but not great.
Run defense is a legitimate concern against good teams. I think the problem is not just personnel but also a scheme that prioritizes explosive plays over plugging gaps.
Illinois OL might be stronger than PSU's DL but I don't think their offense can score as many points as PSU's offense.
Have to see how Ellies and Izzard perform. Hopefully they've both improved from last year because they weren't exactly world-beaters last season. Anyway, getting an early lead is going to be important to keep teams from just grinding PSU down with the run game.
We don't have the highest rated DTs but Ellies was a 4*, he weighs 304, and he's an upperclassman.
