Allar needs work but is hardly an average QB
Penn State Wide receivers, Landon Tengwall... Game over. Period.
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Yeah you missed a pretty good podcast. He hits on a lot. We made no effort to scheme WR. I also don't think he is confident in doing so. He has a number of overthrown passes this year and Warren is 6"5
I haven’t read a single expert who is down on Allar. Yes, he isn’t perfect and can improve but who isn’t? He’s 20 years old, two or three years younger than every other top flight college QB. He made a horrible throw against ND.
Fans complaining about him simply don’t know what they are talking about. He is far from being a problem.
There is difference from being a problem and having a bad game. I am not down on him, but the simple throw to Singleton and the last throw can’t happen if you want to get to the finals.
The INT was horrendous. While not a good throw, singleton should have caught that ball. Two hands on the ball = catch
While I'll agree with some of what he says I'll just state the fact that the reason the targets are down is because the drops are up, and you can't maximize your opportunities in the passing game where your chances of a catch is questionable. You do have to throw their way to at least try and make a D play hopefully a little more honest.
You must maximize those opportunities, so they have been throwing more to TE's and RB's upping their chances for completions and better maximizing the chances for a reception and advancing the line of scrimmage.
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Rewatch the play. If Singleton had two hands coming out of the back of his knee then he should have caught it.
Allar has all the physical tools to be a great QB but he needs to spend some time reading 'Zen and the Art of Archery'. As you pointed out he is 20. He needs to relax and appears to lose his mechanics under pressure. I am not sure why Our guru in the press box called that last pass play. But given he did a poised and confident QB throughs the ball away, as Allar stated post game. I hope things settle down for him and he continues to grow.
He needs to practice stepping into his throws as a 320 lb defensive tackle charges into his face.
I don't think he is the main problem but he needs a lot of work.. and it wasn't just one bad throw against Notre Dame, his four game postseason if you include Oregon the numbers are pretty poor. His completion percentage was in the mid fifties. So he needs a lot of work. his mechanics seemed to get worse throughout the season. but obviously he's by far not the biggest issue on the team.
Singleton's momentum was heading in a different direction than the ball placement. Bed throw.
Yet it happens to all QBs. No QB has ever played a perfect game and that ball was still catchable and had nothing to do with us blowing two leads. Teams have overcome way more to win.
No he doesn't. Most NFL QBs don't do that in this era. You have to be able to make tough throws off your back foot. See Allen Mahomes Burrow Goff Stafford etc
Nope. Not a good throw but two hands on the ball equals catch.
Yep. Chuck Knoblauch was a gold glove second baseman who got the yips and couldn't throw to first base. A pro baseball player who was awarded the best defensive second baseman in the American league award one year. And he went to crap.
Allar isn't even a pro yet and tools aside, unless he gets together mentally he will never win in clutch situations .
The kid is 20 years old. Name one qb currently that was ready at 20.
Singleton is being kind to a dejected teammate. A 4 yd pass with no pressure.,. and the physics of the route... disagree as you will...
It wasn’t a good pass but if you don’t think Nick believes he should have caught that ball you don’t know Nick.
Man, you really don’t like people criticizing him. You his dad? 🙂
Of course you can count plays that were overturned by penalties. As you said yourself, they were bad decisions. I’m pretty sure his coaches will be factoring those decisions in when evaluating his play and going over it with him.
It was a very poor throw to a receiver that was wide open. We will have to agree to disagree.
Literally I said he made bad decisions, which is criticism, in what you responded to which you say but then say I don't like people criticizing him
He didn't throw 3 picks. Which is the claim I said can't be made. And of course they'll review those plays. Just like they'll review every play where our guys dropped dimes and they'll see an insane amount of plays where he had nowhere to go with the ball yet was only sacked 19 times in 16 games in a vertical passing offense.
Exactly. See, in the NFL, the running back simply bends at the waist, makes the catch, and falls into the end zone. It's something that you see every Sunday by basic ordinary players.
Let's go ahead and talk about that interception: The receiver GAVE UP ON THE ROUTE, which is unforgivable in ANY situation but happens more than a dozen times under Hagans. Then, the receiver, doesn't fight for the ball, and looks like a high school kid while a very mediocre Christian Gray makes an uncontested catch for an interception. No, it was a poor play and another example of this kid panicking in the clutch, but that should NEVER have been an interception.
Singleton played very well. He'll also be the first to say he should have caught that. Doesn't make it a good throw as it wasn't but he could've easily made the play.
I feel bad for both Singleton and Allen. They played their hearts out.
Sure, Singleton might have been able to make that catch if he had been prepared to be low-balled, but overall those guys were let down by the passing game. Otherwise they gave it 100% the entire game.
I can't say that for the defense. Something went awry during half time. Whatever it was someone needs to come clean on it and make sure it never happens again. That was the difference in the game just as much as a dropped pass or an interception.
Sure, Singleton might have been able to make that catch if he had been prepared to be low-balled, but overall those guys were let down by the passing game. Otherwise they gave it 100% the entire game.
I can't say that for the defense. Something went awry during half time. Whatever it was someone needs to come clean on it and make sure it never happens again. That was the difference in the game just as much as a dropped pass or an interception.
He is really poor when facing pressure. I know that is tough but he has to be coached up to slide and maneuver around in the pocket much better. He sees the rush late and then is just dead in the water. Takes more sacks than he needs to.
He took 19 sacks ALL year...barely over 1 a game
Apparently he should never be sacked--first QB ever with that expectation
Against better competition he struggles and with pressure he seemingly panics. His fundamentals fall apart.
I wad shocked at the game he had vs ND. When he threw that second pick that got nullified by the PI that was a huge red flag.
One floating duck in the end zone, okay shake it off but 2? Then the last pick was the obvious back breaker. Just hope he makes big improvement in his weak areas for next season.
Very good analysis from a former player. I believe him when he says there is knock on effect from wide receivers to QB confidence wise. His stats tell the story on why we have no elite wideouts and understands their perspective on playing at PSU.
If you can’t face the cold hard truth of your situation you can never correct it.
He was sacked zero times against Oregon and once against ND. Beau played one real snap at QB against Oregon and was sacked.
Now you're changing your argument and saying "second pick" when he threw one pick. You want to talk about decisions we can but whe you say "second pick" you're wrong
The jump ball to Warren is a product of "he's the only guy that can make a play so I'll let him try to make a play" not I'm panicking.
How Bowles talks about Baker is how the fans should see Allar...
"He's your bell cow. Your bell cow takes a shot and if something goes wrong, you've got to live with that," Bowles said. "They're human. We're going to make mistakes and he got us here -- we wouldn't even be here without Baker."
"He's your bell cow. Your bell cow takes a shot and if something goes wrong, you've got to live with that," Bowles said. "They're human. We're going to make mistakes and he got us here -- we wouldn't even be here without Baker."
sure.
ND QB wasn't any better. Certainly not if one of ND's cornerbacks fell down and gave up a 53 yard TD pass. Ewers? Had a lower QB rating than Allar. Howard had a great QB rating but he also benefits from having the best WR corp in the NCAA, perhaps in the top five all time.
The last minutes INT made Allar's performance look awful. And it was. But it isn't as bad as people want to believe. In a loss, the QB takes the blame (in a win, he gets way too much credit). Regardless, he is 20 years old. Ewers is 21. Leonard is 22. Howard is 23.
NFL in big games?
- Jordon Love, 20 of 33 for 212 yards, zero TDs and 3 INTS
- All pro Jalen Hurts? 13-21 for 131 yards, two TDs and 0 INTS
- Baker Mayfield, 15 of 18 for 185 yards, two TDs and 0 INTS 9 (a horrible fumble on a handoff though)
