Allar couldn’t hit wrs when they were open either. Just an awful performance from him.
Blame Allar all you want but you can't win big games without wide receivers. Period.
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If we're being honest, Drew threw three picks tonight. Those were some big time bail out calls.
He played the entire season handicapped by the wide receivers. This loss is on the wr room and the incompetent coach who is responsible for them
The WRs aren't the reason they lost. But they suck. The staff doesn't do them any favors even trying to get them open.
We knew the WRs would do nothing. This is not like Warren had zero catches.
We somehow lost even though we won the turnover margin and ran the ball solidly? Why? Allar was lousy in key moments. Has to hit Singleton in stride at the goal line. Needs to make plays on the drive before the pick when 24 all. He just needs to, plain and simple. That is what championship qbs do. And of course the ridiculously bad pick to essentially seal our fate. I mean the guy was brought in to win these games making winning plays in the clutch and he makes losing plays. My god is that disappointing.
Don't let the defense off the hook. They played a piss poor 2nd half. Allen needs to get criticized. We cannot give up that tying TD. Again championship teams close the game out at that point.
ND made the critical plays in clutch moments and we did not. Do I need to list the number of big games over the last 8 years where we don't make the plays in crunch time and the opponent does? This result should not be surprising. It is the culture of the program led by Franklin. We do NOT have the mental fortitude to win these close, tough games against an equal opponent in talent. Seen it over and over and over and over. Same bad movie. I have serious doubts Franklin will or can ever win a game like this. He just is incapable. Yes we can beat a mediocre USC in a close game or a far inferior on talent Minny team but when it comes down to playing a team with equal or better talent on a big stage with a lot riding on the game we never can win it. Never. This loss is just another gut punch. Thank you James.
We somehow lost even though we won the turnover margin and ran the ball solidly? Why? Allar was lousy in key moments. Has to hit Singleton in stride at the goal line. Needs to make plays on the drive before the pick when 24 all. He just needs to, plain and simple. That is what championship qbs do. And of course the ridiculously bad pick to essentially seal our fate. I mean the guy was brought in to win these games making winning plays in the clutch and he makes losing plays. My god is that disappointing.
Don't let the defense off the hook. They played a piss poor 2nd half. Allen needs to get criticized. We cannot give up that tying TD. Again championship teams close the game out at that point.
ND made the critical plays in clutch moments and we did not. Do I need to list the number of big games over the last 8 years where we don't make the plays in crunch time and the opponent does? This result should not be surprising. It is the culture of the program led by Franklin. We do NOT have the mental fortitude to win these close, tough games against an equal opponent in talent. Seen it over and over and over and over. Same bad movie. I have serious doubts Franklin will or can ever win a game like this. He just is incapable. Yes we can beat a mediocre USC in a close game or a far inferior on talent Minny team but when it comes down to playing a team with equal or better talent on a big stage with a lot riding on the game we never can win it. Never. This loss is just another gut punch. Thank you James.
Enough playing around.
Beg Florida to take Franklin…retain some salary if necessary.
And give someone else a chance!
I think the pattern here should be obvious to all but the most uninformed.
And thank you Sandy. Let’s be bold and move on from him anyway.
He was bad.
But tough to be much better than fair without a single serviceable wideout.
They are better than ours.
We will soon find out how much better.
They will not match up well with O$U.
It could get very, very ugly.
Allar has some blame. Played horrendous today.
Another five paragraphs of making excuses for the worst wide receiver room in the country. The only non service academy to finish a game without a wr catch in three years.
There is no other reason for this loss.
The wide receivers ARE the reason they lost. Period. Zero catches for zero yards.
Sounds silly at first, but the biggest thing that I want from HCJF is I want him to stop signing rookie WRs who require him to give their girlfriends face time on signing day. Cringe worthy stuff, that. Zero results. Etc. Unbecoming.
Plus, as a great coach from the south once said: "That pxssy is undefeated."
We know they can screw. Can they catch or run, tho? You get the idea. Can they even function on their own?
We could also consider going back to WRs who don't feel the need to distinguish themselve by being illustrated boys.
Let's stop pandering to those who have not yet grown up enough to stand on their own two feet, comfortable in their own skin.
That's a coaching thing that is really needed.
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The truth of the matter is we don't have any WO's and Allar was off after the early drops. The WO problem belongs to the receiver coach. Last night Allar was simply Alar. I will be shocked if by spring we don't have another Receivers coach.
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Well, he was off last night so I guess I can be off in a post or two. Besides I haven't finished my first cup of coffee. That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it.
I guess the on blessing from last night outcome and Allar’s performance is that he should definitely be back next year. Hopefully some more players are motivated to return also like Singleton/Allen, King, Durant. That is what happened the last two years with Ohio State and Michigan both had a ton of returning players to make a run for a championship. But it would still come down to Franklin getting over the hump and the monkey off his back. Let’s hope the players give him that opportunity.
PSU didn't have to play for OT. Just don't throw into the middle of the field under pressure when you've deep in your own end. Do something safe like throw a swing passes to Singleton. Don't take a risky shot downfield until after you cross the 50.
I think that forced throw was due to poor coaching over the past 3 years. Allar should know better by now. As much as I like the kid I don't believe him that he was trying to throw the ball at Evan's feet.
And how many of us really slept last night? I slept three hours and didn’t go into work today. I am as miserable as everybody else.
Drew's performance was awful...the INT was awful..the playcall was awful..the busted coverage to tie game was awful..the 15 yard hands to face was awful.
Kid was crying eyes out in the press conference. Our coach getting paid millions is the problem. He chooses staff and he knows the scripts at key points in game. That is same result..every time
Kid was crying eyes out in the press conference. Our coach getting paid millions is the problem. He chooses staff and he knows the scripts at key points in game. That is same result..every time
Laughable. His momentum was going toward the end zone and he had to turn his body to try to catch a pass @ his knees. It was a terrible pass that pros probably wouldn't catch.
Such a pile of BS... In the end, that is on the field players have to take responsibility for their own actions. Allar needs some maturity and poise.
So, do posters here. None of you, especially you posted throughout the season with expectations that this team would end up 4 points from the CFP final game. You need to take a good look at your selves. I despise crybabies. What was your W-L prediction before the season began?
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Well if you listen to our media people like Tom Hanifan, and T Frank, and Nate, and basically almost all of them, it's not Hagans fault. Poor guy was just up against it and had nothing to work with. 2 years later and they have gotten even worse. But our soft media refuses to grow a pair and bring it up.
This has nothing to do with the problem but at some point it might be time to stop crying after losses.... that probably won't fly in the NFL. Drew might need 5 more years before he is mentally ready.
But tonight was not his fault. His receivers cannot run routes, quit on nearly all of them, can't beat man coverage, and are the worst in power five football.
Frankly I think the season was a total miracle: We miraculously made it to the national semi final with the worst wide receivers and wide receivers coach in the nation. That alone was astounding.
I agree that he should know better, but Allar largely does not make those kinds of mistakes - if anything he usually plays too "safe". So it's hard to know how much of the blame is on the coaches if he generally avoids those problems. It's not like he is regularly throwing across his body to the center of the field in games such that it's a tendency that needs to be corrected.
Admittedly hi risk throws for PSU. The lack of any separation or ability to contest a throw has been a down fall of PSU this year. I really think it goes back to WR coaching position turn over. Recruiting is an issue when so many WR 's hi ranking recruits in our footprint go elsewhere. I think there has to be some talent in the wings or coming in thru the portal. Every tam of equal or better talent will expose opposing weeknesses. WR and LB play against OSU/PSU and now ND.
Franklin is just unlucky. How else do you explain 1-18 vs top 5 teams?
I'm not sure if there is time for dialogue during the helmet comms between AK and DA, but broader team objectives (safe passes, don't force it, OT is acceptable but not desirable, etc.) hopefully were communicated in addition to the play call.
LOL, I slept like a baby. I'm turning the page today to recruiting and getting the second and third QB more/better prepared in the spring.
Allar was on the sidelines as ND scored the game tying TD. Plenty of time to tell him to run or throw safe swing passes until we cross the 50 yd line. Plenty of time to reinforce that we cannot have a turnover on our side of the field.
I don't know. I realize that none of us are actual members of the team. But if losing doesn't bother you, I am reminded of a quote from a legendary football coach:
If it doesn't hurt some, then you really didn't care.....
OK Mumbles, you have my attention. What recruit brought their girlfriend to the table on signing day.
I agree, that's silly.
