Franklin said the same thing Beau did. He supported Beau's difficult decision. Call him a coward you coward.
Penn State Wide receivers, Landon Tengwall... Game over. Period.
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Franklin said the same thing Beau did. He supported Beau's difficult decision. Call him a coward you coward.
You can't ignore the long TD from Leonard. That is football and that happens. Overall the consensus is Leonard outplayed Allar and that was a critical matchup we needed to win. Everyone thought we had the advantage at QB going in but it did not materialize that way. The sad thing is as you are noting that Leonard did not have a great game. It is not like he played way over his head. Allar played down to him and then below him.
Maybe they played about the same in the first half because of Leonard's picks but the 2nd half was definitely better for Leonard and overall he outplayed Allar. He made plays when it counted. That tying drive was clutch. Allar throws a pick to then set up ND. Right there is the difference.
meh. people jump on bandwagons. Perception is being driven by a really bad decsion/throw by Allar and our CB falling down at a critical time. I could have made that throw. Don't forget, Leonard threw TWO interceptions.
I look at the facts and the stats. Allar made a critical and fundamental mistake at a key time. I am watching the NFL and seeing QB's like Herbert, Darnold, Wilson, and Hurts have awful games. I am also looking at quarterbacks like Ewers, Leonard and Jalen Milroe who have not played well in critical games. In fact, tOSU's Howard had a just as bad INT against Oregon when tOSU and Oregon met in the regular season. He also had an awful game against UM. Yet, here he is on the brink of winning a natty.
So, yep, Allar had a weak game capitalized by a complete brain fart at a critical time. That doesn't take way from the fact that his stat line for the regular season was exemplary and he has more skills than any PSU QB since Collins. People praise QBs far too much when they win and blame them far too much when they lose.
Franklin isn't Beau--Franklin isn't using it as an excuse to escape criticism. He's using it to help create change. He didn't care if Beau was here or not. He was glad he was leaving--just using the kid for his own benefit.
What difference does the regular season make when it comes to his postseason performance? As has mentioned on here a few times, if you include Oregon as a postseason game, all four games for Drew saw his comp% be way down...in the 50's in each of those four games. He made bad passes and misfired on ones he seemingly made in the 'regular' season, his fundamentals and footwork in the pocket was bad, and overall couldn't seem to process blitzes and pressure fast enough. It doesn't mean he isn't good or that he isn't the most talented qb we have had in yrs. But, it does mean, that if he doesn't drastically improve in the 2025 playoffs (I'm assuming we make it), than he will go down as another bust of a high star QB in CFB. He might be young in age...but he has also started two full years and I believe played in all or most games as a freshman....he needs to be an ace next year, and not a liability..which he was in the postseason. Ending two games with INT's (Oregon and ND), even if the playcalling was dumb in those moments, just can't happen moving forward.
I would argue that this is the same for every QB. You play against better defenses, cornerbacks, and DCs. And, again, if you look at the other QBs in the playoffs, tell my who is having a good run? The only one I know of is Howard but he had AWFUL games against Oregon and UM. Yet, here he is playing for a Natty.
Sure, Drew had a bad game. So did the WRs. But the body of work from Allar is as good as we've seen at QB since Collins. And, yes, I think he is far better than McSorely. McSorely had far better WRs and the best RB we've ever had.
Was interesting to watch fans reactions after OSU's QB Will Howard after he made the mental mistake of sliding down early letting the clock run our versus the League Game against Oregon..and now..he can do nothing wrong..these are kids..no way Coaches told Drew to throw at any costs downfield regardless of coverage..in fact I'm sure the opposite was true...they said..dont take risks..Drew it appeared was super hyped up the entire game..some of the missed throws more mental than physical..if anyone will learn from this BIG game..it will be Drew..every Team that eventually won a Natty..has gone through growing pains or a tough loss the season before..frankly..I'm SUPER psyched about next year not only because of the talent coming back..but..everyone or most returning..has had the experience of the Notre dame loss in their minds.."unfinished" business... LOVE IT.
It comes down to performing in clutch moments in big games and Allar did not. Simple as that. Poor OSU game, shaky Oregon game, below average playoff games with the capper being an implosion in the Orange Bowl. He gets away with it versus inferior talented teams (SMU and Boise State). Not versus elite teams or even very good teams like ND. Hard to call them elite in my opinion.
Do other quarterbacks even NFL guys have bad games? Of course. That doesn't mean we should excuse away his performance. I know he would be the first person to tell you he has to improve if PSU has any shot of winning a NC next season. And not just improve a little bit but by a lot. He is not terrible or just average. He is a good to very good QB. One of the best to suit up for the Blue and White. But he has a big game issue vs elite or very good teams that has to get fixed and the other issues about decision making, pocket awareness and footwork. There is clearly a component of a psychological/mental barrier going on. So much of sports is mental and particularly the QB position. I don't know what it is, he gets nervous then doesn't play well to start and just loses confidence? I don't know. He also has weak WRs which obviously does not help. But he has to elevate his game even if the WRs are average at best. I'm hoping with no Tyler Warren as his security blanket it forces him to be a better QB. He does need help from AK with a good offensive scheme.
Yep. These things will define a young QB. I think Drew is a bit immature but remind myself that he is only 20 years old. Regardless, Howard is growing and learning from his mistakes. Will Drew advance or will he retract? We'll see. Regardless of that, he's still got the physical skill set better than anyone in college football next year.
Howard played better in Oregon game #1 than Allar did vs OSU. Plus Howard is performing in the clutch in these big playoff games. Allar has not.
Would it be different if Drew had arguably one of the greatest receiving Corp in the History of College Football ie Ohio State ? All first rounders? The one 5 star no longer with them..came to PSU mainly as a blocker...
Howard also has three first-round picks playing WR, a couple of second-round picks at RB and at least three first-round picks on the OL> Regardless both made bad decisions at critical times. BTW, Howard is two years older than Drew.
Howard was 28/35 for 326 and 2 TDs in the first Oregon game. He just gets blamed for the play where he scrambled the clock to 0. Nobody would define that game as "AWFUL" unless they didn't watch it.
you are correct. he had a good game, yet, for some inexplicable reason, had a brain fart running the clock without getting the first down late in the game. But he had an awful game against Michigan. 19 of 33 for only 175 yards, 1 TD and TWO Interceptions with the best WR corp ever put together in a college football game.
I suspect those WRs will light up ND's corners the way PSU's could not.
So am I. He needs to collar his emotions and play with confidence. Having the two backs back with him and nearly the entire OL back next year should help him to achieve that.
Allar plays better even a little better we win that Orange Bowl. He didn't need great receivers or even ones to catch a pass. He has two great RBs and the best TE in PSU history. A lesser QB outplayed him.
The reason why PSU only targeted the wide receivers 5 times was 2 fold. PSUs wide receivers were PSUs weakness and ND defensive backs were their strength.
You are right. A lesser QB out played Allar. He needs to manage his emotions. Hopefully that comes in 2025 and he reaches his potential.
Yep. And if Rucci blocks a little better...and if Carter runs a little faster....and if Warren was an inch taller....and if my horse was atomic and peed rainbows...
Having the physical tools and actually being a top-tier Power 5 quarterback are two different things. The experts love Allar for the same reasons they loved Hackenberg -- big tall dude with a strong arm. But at some point you have to rate Allar on his actual performance instead of his potential. And performance-wise he is a mid-level Big Ten QB and a long way from being able to do what NFL quarterbacks do.
Again, you are the BOARD ASSHOLE AND COWARD!!!!!!!!!!!!! Calling any Penn State player a coward is patently stupid and beyond the pale and is evidence of your abject stupidity.
You should apologize to the Pribula Family. but since you remain Anonymous you wont. I g for one will counter every damn post you make when you go off your meds an d call out a player in such a manner.
He's not a Penn State player
Beau knows he's a coward as does his family. He got big boy money for being one.
LEONARD won the game asshole!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Get it dumbass!
Another post by the BOARD SCUMBAG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Your posts about Franklin just add to your stupidity. DUMB AS THE PROVERBIAL BOX OF ROCKS AND A COWARD SUPREME!
LOL... Beau's dad knows he's a coward!!! BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...
Holy Shit......
He does--I'm sure Beau's dad shares my opinion. He knows what he did
Yet again--see you're talking about him in every thread
Sure he does Loado, sure he does.... BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA....
I'm talking about how ignorant you are.... READING 101.
His performance was great in the regular season. The difference is PSU played for good defenses in a row while New not to cover our WRs deep. They only needed to defend 2/3rds of the field.
Or we could have simply pulled a Michigan and ran every down in the half to win the game.
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Having the physical tools and actually being a top-tier Power 5 quarterback are two different things. The experts love Allar for the same reasons they loved Hackenberg -- big tall dude with a strong arm. But at some point you have to rate Allar on his actual performance instead of his potential. And performance-wise he is a mid-level Big Ten QB and a long way from being able to do what NFL quarterbacks do.
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Having the physical tools and actually being a top-tier Power 5 quarterback are two different things. The experts love Allar for the same reasons they loved Hackenberg -- big tall dude with a strong arm. But at some point you have to rate Allar on his actual performance instead of his potential. And performance-wise he is a mid-level Big Ten QB and a long way from being able to do what NFL quarterbacks do.
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Allar was off much of the game, and AK should have recognized that and adjusted by running every down or creating easier quick passes for an erratic Allar. But many, many other factors contributed to the loss to a truly inferior nd team. Heck, Carter with a second working arm recovers a fumble and forces at least another, either of which flip the game as well. You win and lose as a team.
Agreed...everyone could have done more...that's the nature of sports.
Allar was 7-8 I believe in the second half before the pick...abandoning the screen game and Warren at QB hurt
QUOTE="tboyer, post: 6852765, member: 2828"]
Having the physical tools and actually being a top-tier Power 5 quarterback are two different things. The experts love Allar for the same reasons they loved Hackenberg -- big tall dude with a strong arm. But at some point you have to rate Allar on his actual performance instead of his potential. And performance-wise he is a mid-level Big Ten QB and a long way from being able to do what NFL quarterbacks do.
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Having the physical tools and actually being a top-tier Power 5 quarterback are two different things. The experts love Allar for the same reasons they loved Hackenberg -- big tall dude with a strong arm. But at some point you have to rate Allar on his actual performance instead of his potential. And performance-wise he is a mid-level Big Ten QB and a long way from being able to do what NFL quarterbacks do.
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Quarterbacks develop a rhythm in a game or they don’t. If you’re always trying to throw to closely covered receivers you always have to be perfect. No one is perfect. That last game there were throws to receivers with defenders all over them. Someone needs to teach our wide outs to run better routs or get better receivers. They weren’t open and Allar had no rhythm overthrowing plenty.
