LOL...you continue to miss the point (and, by all reporting, PSU matched the pay that ND was offering).
No, my point is that there would be no justification whatsoever to pay Shrewsberry that kind of money. Matching ND already put him above Painter which makes no sense. At some point you do just need to move on.
OK...So it is your position he left for money. OK, now we go look for anther unproven coach who is a hidden-gem assistant at a good program or a HC of a small school and hope that they can lead one of the largest schools in the USA in one of the largest conferences in the USA.
that's not what i am saying. Penn State matched the money. he still left. clearly there were other factors some of which i agree with you about, others i don't .
how can you say "Penn State matched the money" and also say "negotiation reached a point where his salary didn't make sense". You cannot make both comments. They are opposites. They either matched the money or they did not.
They are not opposites at all. Penn State matched Notre Dame's offer and he still left. That is what happened according to what i have read. and the salary at that point was above Matt Painter's, which does not make any sense, so PSU was right not to counter any further. They were already in bizarre territory. They now receive a $4 million buyout and we will see what they can do with the next hire. It is time to move on.
When the nats - who are so bad now it’s comical - started trying to get good they overpaid werth. It was the only way they were going to get him. And ultimately it paid off.
yeah but, at that point in the negotiation, at that salary, Kraft was at the point where he could just take the same offer (plus a buyout payment), and hire someone else who has been winning for a heck of a lot longer than two years.
Ok..I am good with that. But that tells me he left the program, not the money. In other words, ND has a better opportunity for success than PSU and that is why he left.
at the salary they were ready to pay Micah I think someone like Thad Matta would absolutely be on the table. not that he would necessarily be the guy but they had gotten way up there
I feel like CJF is the right model. He's a guy that has shown enough to PSU that he gives PSU the right of first refusal. He may go someplace else but has given PSU the chance to match it. And with the revenue football drives, the U can afford it.
i guess he felt that way. ND has not exactly had an easy time finding a coach, though, if you've been following it. I think they got a little desperate to make a hire.
Shrewsberry is the only PSU basketball coach i can remember who left due to being successful here.
He would not be a good hire. Look @ his record @ his two previous head coaching jobs - not very good. PSU needs a HC who is very familiar with highschool programs in the Northeast and DMV. There is ample talent in those regions.
Where has Billy Donovan been the last few years? He was great @ Florida, went to the NBA and I've heard nothing since.
He coaches a little team called the Chicago Bulls.
why would he want the job? wow.
Well I don't follow the NBA so I was not aware of where he was coaching. Thanks for the info.
he wasn't
Thats kind of my point. If an Alumni is leery about taking it, then what do we think someone with an actual record wil be.
I think this is an important point. I'm trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear here, but maybe the idea that the PSU job can be a springboard for one's head coaching career instead of a coaching graveyard might help PSU in attracting the next coach, especially if PSU did put a good offer/package together to try to keep Shrewsberry.
i kind of doubt he is leery of taking it, unless it's due to knowing that he is nowhere close to ready
Just curious why he's not close to being ready? PSU isn't Duke or UNC or anyone with a pulse. The only real difference in their coaching ladder is the Celtics. And if that is now the required experience to be a PSU coach we are in trouble.
Interesting name...he's likely making about the same today that Micah was making so we'd need to bump the $, but I'd think he's attainable. He's not a perfect geographical fit (most of his time was spent further south, with the exception of short stints in Massachusetts and Cincy)...but I love him as a coach, so I'd look past that and hope he could assemble a staff of guys with Philly/DMV connections.
But what? Talor isn't close to being ready to be a head coach in a major conference.
Not really...people complain about our horrible hires bringing in DeChellis (spent over a decade as a PSU assistant and the lead recruiter on several of the best players in school history up to that point, then led another school to an NCAA tournament) and Chambers (lead assistant on a final four team, then led another school to an NCAA tournament).
this is 100 % psu. people will come out of the woodwork and insist that the best candidates are Dan Earl, Joe Crispin, Talor Battle, Nick Collela and Adam Fisher.
