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Now he wants help...GFY

"President calls on Penn Staters to contact legislators in light of budget delay

We are proud of Penn State's role as Pennsylvania's land-grant university and what it means to be a public institution. We fulfill our mission through excellence in education and a powerful commitment to service to the Commonwealth. Since 1855, the General Assembly has been our partner in helping us serve Pennsylvania's residents. One of the hallmarks of our partnership has been an annual state appropriation that is approximately $250 million. As a direct result of this state funding, Penn State offers more than $570 million in tuition savings to nearly 55,000 Pennsylvania resident students.

This funding may be in jeopardy and we need your help.

Now, three months after this fiscal year's budget deadline, legislators in Harrisburg have not yet finalized the Commonwealth's budget. Our state's leaders continue to negotiate how best to raise enough revenue to fund the Commonwealth's operations, but there is a fundamental question regarding whether the state has enough revenue to fund Pennsylvania's public institutions of higher education, including Penn State.

This puts the in-state tuition rate in jeopardy, and it would compromise our ability to conduct the research, extension education and health services that are vital to our citizens.

I urge every Pennsylvania resident in our Penn State community to contact their state legislator to encourage them to finish the state budget and fund Penn State. For those of you who do not reside in Pennsylvania, please be aware of this situation and how it may impact future Penn Staters and the amazing contributions that Penn State makes to society overall.

For more than 150 years the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania has upheld our partnership by supporting our mission with an annual appropriation. Should the General Assembly fail to provide an appropriation for Penn State, there will be no funding to offset the cost of a Penn State education and in-state tuition is at risk.

To protect our university from devastating cuts that will impact our ability to deliver on our mission, we must make our voices heard in Harrisburg!

Whether you are a current student, parent, alumnus, employee, or supporter, you understand what Penn State has accomplished and what we strive to do as a public university. Click here to contact your state legislators and ask them to support Penn State's funding.

Access to an affordable world-class education is at the heart of our mission, and a key to making Pennsylvania a thriving, economically competitive state. Since 1855, Penn State has responsibly served our citizens with the support of our elected officials in Harrisburg. Now more than ever we need to remind them to continue that support.

Thank you for your support, and for being a part of the Penn State community.

Raise the Song!

Eric J. Barron
Penn State President
collect
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In other words, get ready for another tuition hike, and it's the Governor's fault. :rolleyes:
 
Whew...for a moment I thought you might be referencing the other president...trump.
 
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Well, I know one of my state legislators personally--but I'm not sure the Ohio House can vote an appropriation for Penn State (oddly enough, it was a Penn State grad legislator here who got the Ohio House to create the law for logo license plates, but sadly they chose to limit it to Ohio schools only).
 
Penn Staters call on the president... to formally review the Freeh Report, invite Louis Freeh back to campus to fufill his contract, demand the NCAA apologize, and put the Paterno statue back in it's rightful place.

We've been waiting years for him to act... so you first Mr. president.
 
Instead of writing to alumni Bannon should be writing a letter to all Penn State employees that says:

"If the state doesn't pony up the money soon, we are going to cut everyone's salary 10%. The cuts might have to increase if the the state budget impasse drags out."

That is what a real business that cares about fiscal responsibility would do. However, the state university system isn't a real business and they don't care about fiscal responsibility. They think the taxpayers are an infinite money sink.
 
Bob, I can't give you any more likes but if I could, I would be so outraged if I could give you a thousand outrage likes.

I like the way you think. We should be able to assign :eek:s to posts.


Post:

"According to gopsusports.com, sandy barbour today announced the hiring of 37 new assistant athletic directors in charge of afternoon team naps."

demlion, pandaczar12, kgilbert78 and 14 other people :eek: this.
 
Instead of writing to alumni Bannon should be writing a letter to all Penn State employees that says:

"If the state doesn't pony up the money soon, we are going to cut everyone's salary 10%. The cuts might have to increase if the the state budget impasse drags out."

That is what a real business that cares about fiscal responsibility would do. However, the state university system isn't a real business and they don't care about fiscal responsibility. They think the taxpayers are an infinite money sink.

How much of a salary cut would barren get?

Yeah, right.
 
If anyone really wants to know what is going on:

It is "Barron Math", whereby every time Penn State raises tuition it "saves" In-State students more money.

Over the last two years, Tuition charged to In-State students has increased by over $31,000,000, but President Barron claims that He has saved In-State students $53,000,000 over that same time.

Seriously.

According to President Barron, every time Penn State raises tuition, and thereby creates a larger dollar differential between In-State and Out-of-State Tuition (that difference is currently approximately $15,228 per year) he claims to be saving money for In-State students.
Currently, according to Barron Math, that "savings" is $15,228 for each of the 37,400 In-State students.
$15,228 times 37,4000 = $570 Million.

Tuition Increases over the last two years, according to President Barron, have "saved" Penn State's In-State students an additional $53 Million. This is how he figures that:

You could not make this stuff up.

2015 Academic Year:

In-State Tuition = $16,572
Out-of-State = $30,404

"Savings" = $13,832 times 37,400 = $517 Million

2017 Academic Year:
In-State Tuition = $17,416
Out-of-State = $32,644

"Savings" = $15,228 times 37,400 = $570 Million

So, President Barron "saved" Penn State In-State students another $53,000,000 - by increasing their total Tuition from $16,752 to $17,416, a net of $844 per student (or a total of $844 times 37,400 = $31.5 Million).
In Barron Math the increased cost of $31.5 Million was actually a "savings" of $53 Million.


Go Figure.

Apparently, the members of the Penn State Board of Trustees are too stupid or lazy to do simple math.
In fact, many of them are both too stupid and too lazy.
But all of them are at least one or the other - or they simply don't care.


All I have to say is WOW!!!!! Thank you for explaining that. How is it that nobody questions this or calls him out on this BS?
 
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Penn Staters call on the president... to formally review the Freeh Report, invite Louis Freeh back to campus to fufill his contract, demand the NCAA apologize, and put the Paterno statue back in it's rightful place.

We've been waiting years for him to act... so you first Mr. president.

Exactly what I was thinking--ask your BOT buddies to ante up instead of just profiting off the university
 
If anyone really wants to know what is going on:

It is "Barron Math", whereby every time Penn State raises tuition it "saves" In-State students more money.

Over the last two years, Tuition charged to In-State students has increased by over $31,000,000, but President Barron claims that He has saved In-State students $53,000,000 over that same time.

Seriously.

According to President Barron, every time Penn State raises tuition, and thereby creates a larger dollar differential between In-State and Out-of-State Tuition (that difference is currently approximately $15,228 per year) he claims to be saving money for In-State students.
Currently, according to Barron Math, that "savings" is $15,228 for each of the 37,400 In-State students.
$15,228 times 37,4000 = $570 Million.

Tuition Increases over the last two years, according to President Barron, have "saved" Penn State's In-State students an additional $53 Million. This is how he figures that:

You could not make this stuff up.

2015 Academic Year:

In-State Tuition = $16,572
Out-of-State = $30,404

"Savings" = $13,832 times 37,400 = $517 Million

2017 Academic Year:
In-State Tuition = $17,416
Out-of-State = $32,644

"Savings" = $15,228 times 37,400 = $570 Million

So, President Barron "saved" Penn State In-State students another $53,000,000 - by increasing their total Tuition from $16,752 to $17,416, a net of $844 per student (or a total of $844 times 37,400 = $31.5 Million).
In Barron Math the increased cost of $31.5 Million was actually a "savings" of $53 Million.


Go Figure.

Apparently, the members of the Penn State Board of Trustees are too stupid or lazy to do simple math.
In fact, many of them are both too stupid and too lazy.
But all of them are at least one or the other - or they simply don't care.
I'm sure they used that $53 million "savings" to build that dorm at Abington!?
 
If anyone really wants to know what is going on:

It is "Barron Math", whereby every time Penn State raises tuition it "saves" In-State students more money.

Over the last two years, Tuition charged to In-State students has increased by over $31,000,000, but President Barron claims that He has saved In-State students $53,000,000 over that same time.

Seriously.

According to President Barron, every time Penn State raises tuition, and thereby creates a larger dollar differential between In-State and Out-of-State Tuition (that difference is currently approximately $15,228 per year) he claims to be saving money for In-State students.
Currently, according to Barron Math, that "savings" is $15,228 for each of the 37,400 In-State students.
$15,228 times 37,4000 = $570 Million.

Tuition Increases over the last two years, according to President Barron, have "saved" Penn State's In-State students an additional $53 Million. This is how he figures that:

You could not make this stuff up.

2015 Academic Year:

In-State Tuition = $16,572
Out-of-State = $30,404

"Savings" = $13,832 times 37,400 = $517 Million

2017 Academic Year:
In-State Tuition = $17,416
Out-of-State = $32,644

"Savings" = $15,228 times 37,400 = $570 Million

So, President Barron "saved" Penn State In-State students another $53,000,000 - by increasing their total Tuition from $16,752 to $17,416, a net of $844 per student (or a total of $844 times 37,400 = $31.5 Million).
In Barron Math the increased cost of $31.5 Million was actually a "savings" of $53 Million.


Go Figure.

Apparently, the members of the Penn State Board of Trustees are too stupid or lazy to do simple math.
In fact, many of them are both too stupid and too lazy.
But all of them are at least one or the other - or they simply don't care.

This is the accounting of a typical political, bloated, government operation, answerable to no one. Thanks for the laugh. It would be funny if not so embarrassing.
 
If anyone really wants to know what is going on:

It is "Barron Math", whereby every time Penn State raises tuition it "saves" In-State students more money.

Over the last two years, Tuition charged to In-State students has increased by over $31,000,000, but President Barron claims that He has saved In-State students $53,000,000 over that same time.

Seriously.

According to President Barron, every time Penn State raises tuition, and thereby creates a larger dollar differential between In-State and Out-of-State Tuition (that difference is currently approximately $15,228 per year) he claims to be saving money for In-State students.
Currently, according to Barron Math, that "savings" is $15,228 for each of the 37,400 In-State students.
$15,228 times 37,4000 = $570 Million.

Tuition Increases over the last two years, according to President Barron, have "saved" Penn State's In-State students an additional $53 Million. This is how he figures that:

You could not make this stuff up.

2015 Academic Year:

In-State Tuition = $16,572
Out-of-State = $30,404

"Savings" = $13,832 times 37,400 = $517 Million

2017 Academic Year:
In-State Tuition = $17,416
Out-of-State = $32,644

"Savings" = $15,228 times 37,400 = $570 Million

So, President Barron "saved" Penn State In-State students another $53,000,000 - by increasing their total Tuition from $16,752 to $17,416, a net of $844 per student (or a total of $844 times 37,400 = $31.5 Million).
In Barron Math the increased cost of $31.5 Million was actually a "savings" of $53 Million.


Go Figure.

Apparently, the members of the Penn State Board of Trustees are too stupid or lazy to do simple math.
In fact, many of them are both too stupid and too lazy.
But all of them are at least one or the other - or they simply don't care.
Just curious. What makes you think this is what he is doing? I would hope he didn't present this to someone.

The reason I ask is that the letter references 55,000 students and you are using 37,400. I could have backed into the 37,400 figure by knowing the in state/out of state tuition figures and I know nothing about how he is coming up with his numbers.
 
Now he wants help...GFY

"President calls on Penn Staters to contact legislators in light of budget delay

We are proud of Penn State's role as Pennsylvania's land-grant university and what it means to be a public institution. We fulfill our mission through excellence in education and a powerful commitment to service to the Commonwealth. Since 1855, the General Assembly has been our partner in helping us serve Pennsylvania's residents. One of the hallmarks of our partnership has been an annual state appropriation that is approximately $250 million. As a direct result of this state funding, Penn State offers more than $570 million in tuition savings to nearly 55,000 Pennsylvania resident students.

This funding may be in jeopardy and we need your help.

Now, three months after this fiscal year's budget deadline, legislators in Harrisburg have not yet finalized the Commonwealth's budget. Our state's leaders continue to negotiate how best to raise enough revenue to fund the Commonwealth's operations, but there is a fundamental question regarding whether the state has enough revenue to fund Pennsylvania's public institutions of higher education, including Penn State.

This puts the in-state tuition rate in jeopardy, and it would compromise our ability to conduct the research, extension education and health services that are vital to our citizens.

I urge every Pennsylvania resident in our Penn State community to contact their state legislator to encourage them to finish the state budget and fund Penn State. For those of you who do not reside in Pennsylvania, please be aware of this situation and how it may impact future Penn Staters and the amazing contributions that Penn State makes to society overall.

For more than 150 years the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania has upheld our partnership by supporting our mission with an annual appropriation. Should the General Assembly fail to provide an appropriation for Penn State, there will be no funding to offset the cost of a Penn State education and in-state tuition is at risk.

To protect our university from devastating cuts that will impact our ability to deliver on our mission, we must make our voices heard in Harrisburg!

Whether you are a current student, parent, alumnus, employee, or supporter, you understand what Penn State has accomplished and what we strive to do as a public university. Click here to contact your state legislators and ask them to support Penn State's funding.

Access to an affordable world-class education is at the heart of our mission, and a key to making Pennsylvania a thriving, economically competitive state. Since 1855, Penn State has responsibly served our citizens with the support of our elected officials in Harrisburg. Now more than ever we need to remind them to continue that support.

Thank you for your support, and for being a part of the Penn State community.

Raise the Song!

Eric J. Barron
Penn State President
collect
"

So even if the Commonwealth can't afford the funding, it should give PSU the money anyway? Is that what they teach in public finance courses at PSU?
 
Now he wants help...GFY

"President calls on Penn Staters to contact legislators in light of budget delay

We are proud of Penn State's role as Pennsylvania's land-grant university and what it means to be a public institution. We fulfill our mission through excellence in education and a powerful commitment to service to the Commonwealth. Since 1855, the General Assembly has been our partner in helping us serve Pennsylvania's residents. One of the hallmarks of our partnership has been an annual state appropriation that is approximately $250 million. As a direct result of this state funding, Penn State offers more than $570 million in tuition savings to nearly 55,000 Pennsylvania resident students.

This funding may be in jeopardy and we need your help.

Now, three months after this fiscal year's budget deadline, legislators in Harrisburg have not yet finalized the Commonwealth's budget. Our state's leaders continue to negotiate how best to raise enough revenue to fund the Commonwealth's operations, but there is a fundamental question regarding whether the state has enough revenue to fund Pennsylvania's public institutions of higher education, including Penn State.

This puts the in-state tuition rate in jeopardy, and it would compromise our ability to conduct the research, extension education and health services that are vital to our citizens.

I urge every Pennsylvania resident in our Penn State community to contact their state legislator to encourage them to finish the state budget and fund Penn State. For those of you who do not reside in Pennsylvania, please be aware of this situation and how it may impact future Penn Staters and the amazing contributions that Penn State makes to society overall.

For more than 150 years the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania has upheld our partnership by supporting our mission with an annual appropriation. Should the General Assembly fail to provide an appropriation for Penn State, there will be no funding to offset the cost of a Penn State education and in-state tuition is at risk.

To protect our university from devastating cuts that will impact our ability to deliver on our mission, we must make our voices heard in Harrisburg!

Whether you are a current student, parent, alumnus, employee, or supporter, you understand what Penn State has accomplished and what we strive to do as a public university. Click here to contact your state legislators and ask them to support Penn State's funding.

Access to an affordable world-class education is at the heart of our mission, and a key to making Pennsylvania a thriving, economically competitive state. Since 1855, Penn State has responsibly served our citizens with the support of our elected officials in Harrisburg. Now more than ever we need to remind them to continue that support.

Thank you for your support, and for being a part of the Penn State community.

Raise the Song!

Eric J. Barron
Penn State President
collect
"

Contact my Representative? Here's my response. (credit to Art for the pic)
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So President Barron, who ignored, mocked, and literally walked out on alumni reps during BoT meetings suddenly expects alumni to save him?

He hasn't given a damn about alumni concerns or proper governance and accountability at PSU for years.

Maybe alumni should write and call Old Main instead of Harrisburg.
 
CUE. THE. OUTRAGE. :eek: FROM. ALL. DIRECTIONS. :eek: .

:eek:


:eek:



:eek:

I understand the outrage regarding the University's poor handling of the Sandusky scandal.

However, IMO, the foregoing does not excuse the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania for woefully under funding its state universities and making it extremely expensive for in-state tuition. The handling of the Sandusky matter and the public funding of state universities are totally unrelated issues. I believe Pitt and Penn State have the most expensive in-state tuition for public universities in the country.

It is possible to fight for appropriate funding of public universities in Pennsylvania and still disagree with the handling of the Sandusky scandal.
 
I understand the outrage regarding the University's poor handling of the Sandusky scandal.

However, IMO, the foregoing does not excuse the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania for woefully under funding its state universities and making it extremely expensive for in-state tuition. The handling of the Sandusky matter and the public funding of state universities are totally unrelated issues. I believe Pitt and Penn State have the most expensive in-state tuition for public universities in the country.

It is possible to fight for appropriate funding of public universities in Pennsylvania and still disagree with the handling of the Sandusky scandal.


Yes, the leadership, emphasis on leadership, of PSU would like you to believe that.
 
Yes, the leadership, emphasis on leadership, of PSU would like you to believe that.

It is not a coincidence that Pitt and Penn State have the highest in state tuition in the country. It is a direct correlation to State spending.
 
woefully under funding its state universities and making it extremely expensive for in-state tuition

I'll try to save Barry having a heart attack here and just say that while one can argue the state appropriation is "low" or "lower" than in year's past, the increases in tuition have been so far above inflation that it wouldn't matter if we had an increase in appropriation to the tune of a $1B a year, it would have made no difference.
 
Laying the groundwork to eliminate 'in-state' tuition.
 
It is not a coincidence that Pitt and Penn State have the highest in state tuition in the country. It is a direct correlation to State spending.

Nice try, but there are other state universities where the state appropriation as a percentage of the operating budget is similar to PSU's. But that shouldn't stop you from being like Barron and blaming someone else.
 
I understand the outrage regarding the University's poor handling of the Sandusky scandal.

However, IMO, the foregoing does not excuse the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania for woefully under funding its state universities and making it extremely expensive for in-state tuition. The handling of the Sandusky matter and the public funding of state universities are totally unrelated issues. I believe Pitt and Penn State have the most expensive in-state tuition for public universities in the country.

It is possible to fight for appropriate funding of public universities in Pennsylvania and still disagree with the handling of the Sandusky scandal.

1. Penn State is not a state school. (state schools are listed here: http://www.passhe.edu/Pages/default.aspx). Penn State is a private institution that is "state-affiliated"
2. 20 yrs ago, tuition was under 10K a year. Gross overspending on the part of PSU and most colleges is the reason for expensive tuition, not the level of funding from the state. I think the state accounts for something like 4% of the budget
 
Now he wants help...GFY

"President calls on Penn Staters to contact legislators in light of budget delay

We are proud of Penn State's role as Pennsylvania's land-grant university and what it means to be a public institution. We fulfill our mission through excellence in education and a powerful commitment to service to the Commonwealth. Since 1855, the General Assembly has been our partner in helping us serve Pennsylvania's residents. One of the hallmarks of our partnership has been an annual state appropriation that is approximately $250 million. As a direct result of this state funding, Penn State offers more than $570 million in tuition savings to nearly 55,000 Pennsylvania resident students.

This funding may be in jeopardy and we need your help.

Now, three months after this fiscal year's budget deadline, legislators in Harrisburg have not yet finalized the Commonwealth's budget. Our state's leaders continue to negotiate how best to raise enough revenue to fund the Commonwealth's operations, but there is a fundamental question regarding whether the state has enough revenue to fund Pennsylvania's public institutions of higher education, including Penn State.

This puts the in-state tuition rate in jeopardy, and it would compromise our ability to conduct the research, extension education and health services that are vital to our citizens.

I urge every Pennsylvania resident in our Penn State community to contact their state legislator to encourage them to finish the state budget and fund Penn State. For those of you who do not reside in Pennsylvania, please be aware of this situation and how it may impact future Penn Staters and the amazing contributions that Penn State makes to society overall.

For more than 150 years the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania has upheld our partnership by supporting our mission with an annual appropriation. Should the General Assembly fail to provide an appropriation for Penn State, there will be no funding to offset the cost of a Penn State education and in-state tuition is at risk.

To protect our university from devastating cuts that will impact our ability to deliver on our mission, we must make our voices heard in Harrisburg!

Whether you are a current student, parent, alumnus, employee, or supporter, you understand what Penn State has accomplished and what we strive to do as a public university. Click here to contact your state legislators and ask them to support Penn State's funding.

Access to an affordable world-class education is at the heart of our mission, and a key to making Pennsylvania a thriving, economically competitive state. Since 1855, Penn State has responsibly served our citizens with the support of our elected officials in Harrisburg. Now more than ever we need to remind them to continue that support.

Thank you for your support, and for being a part of the Penn State community.

Raise the Song!

Eric J. Barron
Penn State President
collect
"
Hands UP don't SHOOT!
 
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Laying the groundwork to eliminate 'in-state' tuition.
Agree. That or significantly altering the ratio of "in-state" vs. "out-of-state" students.

I can see the Administration claiming that they are currently giving preferential admittance to in-state students at the expense of higher-qualified out-of-state applicants as the basis for changing the admittance policy to make it more lucrative ($$$).
 
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I think some Ag related programs are at greatest risk without the funding getting approved.
 
Agree. That or significantly altering the ratio of "in-state" vs. out-of-state" students.

I can see the Administration claiming that they are currently giving preferential admittance to in-state students at the expense of higher-qualified out-of-state applicants as the basis for changing the admittance policy to make it more lucrative ($$$).
I know for a fact that in California, the UC's have an out of state target in a few years that increases the mix of out-of-state versus in-state to increase revenue. I suspect Penn State may be doing the same thing. After all, according to Barron math, that will increase the savings for students.

As a parent of an out-of-state student at PSU, I am offended that he views my ridiculously high out-of-state tuition payments as "savings" for in-state students.
 
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He can go to hell. How about you cut your budget and spending (yes, I know, he's helped save a few dollars over the past few years) instead of blaming tuition increases on a meager state stipend.
 
However, IMO, the foregoing does not excuse the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania for woefully under funding its state universities and making it extremely expensive for in-state tuition.
That's the only reason for the tuition increases? Lack of funding? Srsly?

If the state gave them the money they want, tuition would still rise every year like the sun does every morning. There would just be more employees and more money funneled to useless programs that don't provide jobs for graduates. Or it would simply be flushed down the commode like the JS money was.
 
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