Yeah prefer. Was just curious what you were thinking. I think I agree with you but thought my local kid bias was probably getting in the way of my judgement.Prefer? Probably Gibson.
Likely to get? Probably Kasak.
Yeah prefer. Was just curious what you were thinking. I think I agree with you but thought my local kid bias was probably getting in the way of my judgement.Prefer? Probably Gibson.
Likely to get? Probably Kasak.
If you really want me to ruin your day, let me know and I'll tell you what I think happens with the local kid.Yeah prefer. Was just curious what you were thinking. I think I agree with you but thought my local kid bias was probably getting in the way of my judgement.
lol. No, you won’t hurt my feelings. I don’t think he’s going to PSU. I think it’s tOSU or Cornell…If you really want me to ruin your day, let me know and I'll tell you what I think happens with the local kid.
2025 looks like the honey pot for the next big reload. Wow"Do you have a plan?"
I meant to do this in the earlier post but it was kinda hart from my phone at work -- between Dice's spreadsheet and a few other notes ...
Note that "names to watch" do not reflect any interest from PSU or toward PSU -- literally just some name guys to watch. And weights are guesses (well, maybe not for Mullen).
2023:
- committed: Nasdeo (M2 125/133), Davis (MI 133), Barr (MI 174/184)
- known to be recruiting: Kasak (M2 141/149), Shapiro (MD 149/157), McGowan (FL 125), Mullen (NJ HWT)
- other uncommitted names to watch: S. Johnson (M2, 141), Evans (PA 165), Dellagatta (NJ 174/184), Robell (PA HWT)
We've heard Kasak is down to PSU or Nebraska, and Shapiro is down to PSU or Cornell.
2024:
- committed: none
- finalist for: Gibson (M2 141?)
- names to watch: Simcox (M2 141/149), Harer (PA 165/174), Sealey (NC 165/174), Lawrence (PA 174/184), Kinney (PA 285)
2025:
- names to watch: Desmond (M2 125/133), Lilledahl (MO 125/133), DeLuca (NJ 133/141), Campbell (PA 133/141), Parkins (PA 133/141), Knox (NJ 149), Perry (M2 149/157), Rath (PA 149/157), Shaw (PA 157), Duke (NY 157/165), Sipes (M2 174), Correa (NH 197/HWT), A. Johnson (M2 HWT)
I think he's going tan.lol. No, you won’t hurt my feelings. I don’t think he’s going to PSU. I think it’s tOSU or Cornell…
Lol. I’ve been leaning that way for weeks myself.I think he's going tan.
Yes it does.2025 looks like the honey pot for the next big reload. Wow
As an aside, our 1 stud from that light class of 2019 was Carter of course. I was trying to pin down Carter’s ranking for his class and it was hard. I know Willie was higher on him than others, but TOM had him at 18, and it looks like IM had him 2 or 3 at his weight. Needless to say, some of the higher ranked recruits the Buckeyes nabbed in their #1 class have a ways to go. Kerk left, Kharchla is solid, but the freestyle geeks seem to have overrated him a bit, and Decatur has bust written all over him.Yes it does.
And like you said, some meathead or jocksniffer will say Cael lost his touch when we're more strategic in 2024.
Are you referring to Gibson?I think he's going tan.
Agree. I’ve got a feeling that in the end, it won’t be the body blow many PA homers think it is. Give me the rangy guys with noodly arms all dayI think he's going tan.
I'll admit I kinda thought that way in past years. But now I follow it a little closer and somewhat understand the thought process. Plus Caels only got 9.9. Got to use them wisely. It turns out Cael does have a plan and a really good one.Yes it does.
And like you said, some meathead or jocksniffer will say Cael lost his touch when we're more strategic in 2024.
Who are you talking about?A new 125 transfer 2020 Pa state champ started at Lock haven ➡️ OSU ➡️ PSU. 125 is getting crowded
Will Betancourt would fit the fact pattern provided.Who are you talking about?
Quick, without thinking …very first thought. Kasak or Gibson?
YEA THOSE NOODLES ARE WAY STRONGER THAN THEY LOOK!!Agree. I’ve got a feeling that in the end, it won’t be the body blow many PA homers think it is. Give me the rangy guys with noodly arms all day
Interesting. Hard to picture a big frontline impact, but welcome!
Is this one weird to anyone else. This guy is in and out of the transfer portal. Not sure where or why this came about. But hey Welcome aboard Will.
It would be nice to land Kasak and Gibson. That would be a nice combo. Both have tons of upside. You would think Cornell would be in the mix with his brother going there, but who wouldn’t want to come to Happy Valley.Prefer? Probably Gibson.
Likely to get? Probably Kasak.
Better college career? I have no idea. There's a school of thought that Gibson will physically peak earlier. I'd like to see him this offseason before passing any judgment ... and Cael thought enough of his potential to go after him hard.
Will say this about Gibson: the way he lost to Ungar was shocking to me. Not the fast pin (and it was a quickie), but how he got taken to his back. For someone with his career to date, that was inconceivable. Hopefully that was an aberration (unless he goes elsewhere).
133 I think- RBY insurance?Is this one weird to anyone else. This guy is in and out of the transfer portal. Not sure where or why this came about. But hey Welcome aboard Will.
He said in his post he's going a new weight, so I doubt it.133 I think- RBY insurance?
Couple possibilities...He said in his post he's going a new weight, so I doubt it.
Willie had him around 9.As an aside, our 1 stud from that light class of 2019 was Carter of course. I was trying to pin down Carter’s ranking for his class and it was hard. I know Willie was higher on him than others, but TOM had him at 18, and it looks like IM had him 2 or 3 at his weight. Needless to say, some of the higher ranked recruits the Buckeyes nabbed in their #1 class have a ways to go. Kerk left, Kharchla is solid, but the freestyle geeks seem to have overrated him a bit, and Decatur has bust written all over him.
It is reasonable to have unreasonable expectations, at least until reality sets in.We likely have money committed to the two MI guys - not 100% of course, but probably money. Not sure if we have much committed to in-state Nasdeo.
If Kasak jumps on, like has been rumored, he is likely getting some as well despite being in-state. McGowan, Mullen and Shapiro are in the same class, I think it's unrealistic to expect commitments from all of them. Even the slush fund has limits.
Yes, with that attitude.We likely have money committed to the two MI guys - not 100% of course, but probably money. Not sure if we have much committed to in-state Nasdeo.
If Kasak jumps on, like has been rumored, he is likely getting some as well despite being in-state. McGowan, Mullen and Shapiro are in the same class, I think it's unrealistic to expect commitments from all of them. Even the slush fund has limits.
A few of them are attending M2 (aka PSU Junior High) so Im sure they get plenty of “recruiting” from “Coach” DT.2025:
- names to watch: Desmond (M2 125/133), Lilledahl (MO 125/133), DeLuca (NJ 133/141), Campbell (PA 133/141), Parkins (PA 133/141), Knox (NJ 149), Perry (M2 149/157), Rath (PA 149/157), Shaw (PA 157), Duke (NY 157/165), Sipes (M2 174), Correa (NH 197/HWT), A. Johnson (M2 HWT
I just don’t see Cael & staff recruiting a few of those 2025 names.
Agreed, there a few I think he likely won't pursue, though they're names worth watching, time for things to change ...2025:
- names to watch: Desmond (M2 125/133), Lilledahl (MO 125/133), DeLuca (NJ 133/141), Campbell (PA 133/141), Parkins (PA 133/141), Knox (NJ 149), Perry (M2 149/157), Rath (PA 149/157), Shaw (PA 157), Duke (NY 157/165), Sipes (M2 174), Correa (NH 197/HWT), A. Johnson (M2 HWT
I just don’t see Cael & staff recruiting a few of those 2025 names.
Cael to Shapiro be like "Cassar Diet"My understanding is that Nasdeo is not taking up any money. Shapiro will be at PSU if he’s a 157, but that’s up in the air. Haines will be 157 to start but not sure he stays there. In fact, would be he doesn’t.
2025:
- names to watch: Desmond (M2 125/133), Lilledahl (MO 125/133), DeLuca (NJ 133/141), Campbell (PA 133/141), Parkins (PA 133/141), Knox (NJ 149), Perry (M2 149/157), Rath (PA 149/157), Shaw (PA 157), Duke (NY 157/165), Sipes (M2 174), Correa (NH 197/HWT), A. Johnson (M2 HWT
I just don’t see Cael & staff recruiting a few of those 2025 names.
Can you expand on the bolded part a little?My understanding is that Nasdeo is not taking up any money. Shapiro will be at PSU if he’s a 157, but that’s up in the air. Haines will be 157 to start but not sure he stays there. In fact, would be he doesn’t.
Not Clay (or Craig), but maybe this is another Snyder case?Can you expand on the bolded part a little?
Is it possible he starts at 149? If so, whose interest level changes...his in PSU or PSU's in him?
I was under the impression that this kid is on the "take no matter what and figure it out later" level.
I think Penn State takes him regardless, but if he’s at 157 the path to the lineup is much clearer. Which isn’t to say he couldn’t beat Van Ness or whoever ends up at 149, there are a lot of moving parts, but it’s much easier to sell a Shapiro-Haines-Facundo-Barr 157-184 lineup than it is to muddy things up if he’s at the same weight as Van Ness. This is just my read on things from the people I’ve spoken with, by the way.Can you expand on the bolded part a little?
Is it possible he starts at 149? If so, whose interest level changes...his in PSU or PSU's in him?
I was under the impression that this kid is on the "take no matter what and figure it out later" level.
When does a college go after DT as head coach?A few of them are attending M2 (aka PSU Junior High) so Im sure they get plenty of “recruiting” from “Coach” DT.
I find it hard to believe OKST would go outside the family for a first-time college coach.When does a college go after DT as head coach?
I imagine somebody has already inquired on his interest.
The Oklahoma State job will probably be opening up in the next few years. It will be interesting to see where they go for a coach.
Dieringer may be sick of missing out on World/Oly teams by then too, he’d make a great coach, but most guys start out with an assistant job, right?I find it hard to believe OKST would go outside the family for a first-time college coach.
Smith's coaching tree includes Popolizio (NC State), Scott (UNC), Branch (Wyoming), Pendleton (Oregon State), Ward (Army), Lanham (Duke), Cody (Presbyterian), and Moore (recently American).
Plus they have Esposito and Perry already on staff, and Blake (former Stanford) only an hour away.