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Questions for the baseball fans here: Will the Pirate win again this season??

bcspsu said:
Frankly, I'm tired of them trading established MLB players like Cole, Taillon, Bell, Musgrove, etc., for propects, most of whom never develop into anything; I've seen enough of that. At some point, you have to start to play to win now than worry about the future. The Pirates now have enough high end prospects, including three minor league starting pitchers, whom they can use to get established MLB players who actually can help the MLB team now rather than worrying about constantly restocking their minor league teams.

Last season, the NL team that made it to the World Series finished with a grand total of six more wins than the Pirates, and that team plays in the same division as the Dodgers. The Pirates play in a mediocre to below average division with hardly any big spending teams that is there for the taking if they make some shrewd moves.
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Well, they have a team of meatheads. Baltimore’s system is the very best in MLB. They have “prospects” who could easily start on most teams…they are winners and they play baseball tne right way.

Pittsburgh could have traded Keller last year for several of those “prospects” (some are now starting in Baltimore and fielded a major league team.

You can not field a team with just Skenes ( who is untouchable). Ask the Angels.
 
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Cardinals come up short in a hard fought game that went down to the wire, so RAISE IT!
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I’ve seen multiple mentions of the Pirates should have made a trade with Baltimore for prospects, but this one:
bison13 said:
Keller is their #1 but I would have traded Keller for Joey Ortiz, Kjerstad and the Round 1 pick like what they gave MIlwaukee, thats basically what was offered last year….
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what proof is there that Baltimore was offering the Pirates “basically what was offered” to Milwaukee?

Why world the Orioles give up the same type players for Keller that they did for Burnes? Not one of Keller’s three (partial/full) seasons had been close the worst of Burnes’ three years.
 
Mufasa94 said:
I’ve seen multiple mentions of the Pirates should have made a trade with Baltimore for prospects, but this one:

what proof is there that Baltimore was offering the Pirates “basically what was offered” to Milwaukee?

Why world the Orioles give up the same type players for Keller that they did for Burnes? Not one of Keller’s three (partial/full) seasons had been close the worst of Burnes’ three years.
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Living in Baltimore and having friends who work in the warehouse. Burnes is only signed through this year, so possibly a full year rental. Keller has a cheap contract moving forward.
 
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I got to meet Dock at doubleday farm in perry county about 20 years ago. A buddy of mine was a guy they'd call to help fill out 2 teams to play the game with a former MLB guy and I filled in as well a few times. Dock was a great guy. He became a drug counselor at prison in California. Most of the players were engaging. Tommy John was not. He didn't want to be bothered. He had pitched in the mlb all star old timers game the weekend before and wore that jersey.
 
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This lineup is pathetic. 3 of the best pitchers in the National league and a double a batting lineup. #Nutting
 
Delcolion915 said:
This lineup is pathetic. 3 of the best pitchers in the National league and a double a batting lineup. #Nutting
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And a middling team overall ERA…so they must have some lousy pitchers too. They have a better record than 3 NL teams - so give them that…progress.

Wonder when Skenes will be in Dodger blue or Pinstripes?
 
Pirates may be looking for hitters before the trade deadline to position themselves for a wildcard spot.
 
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I'd rather see them rent a guy like Josh bell and save the top prospects.
 
Think any rent a player move for just this year would be a bad decision. They are not in a likely playoff position, and this isn’t a last gasp chance type of year.

If they could get someone for a few years who can actually hit, that’s a different story.
 
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Mufasa94 said:
Think any rent a player move for just this year would be a bad decision. They are not in a likely playoff position, and this isn’t a last gasp chance type of year.

If they could get someone for a few years who can actually hit, that’s a different story.
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Talk to the Orioles…but Pirates will have to offer a proven arm.
 
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Mufasa94 said:
Think any rent a player move for just this year would be a bad decision. They are not in a likely playoff position, and this isn’t a last gasp chance type of year.

If they could get someone for a few years who can actually hit, that’s a different story.
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Yep, said before the season started that next year is the year they could make a move. Skenes will have a year in. Cruz needed time to recover from missing a year. Getting a top catcher back off injury next year……but he will need some time to get to top level.

Jones has been a pleasant surprise and should improve. Hopefully Hayes can stay healthy for a change.

Cutch and Chapman are long in the tooth and questionable for next year. Don’t know who are free agents at end of year.
 
At Pirate game. Beautiful night. Directly behind home plate, 30 rows back. Can’t see whole stadium but big crowd 25-30,000 thousand.

Top of eight. Pirates down 7-4. Keller started, struggled, gave up grand slam in fourth. Yanked after five. Pirates get a three run Homer by Zsuwinski, two batters later Cutch hits a solo.
 
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At Pirate game. Beautiful night. Directly behind home plate, 30 rows back. Can’t see whole stadium but big crowd 25-30,000 thousand.

Top of eight. Pirates down 7-4. Keller started, struggled, gave up grand slam in fourth. Yanked after five. Pirates get a three run Homer by Zsuwinski, two batters later Cutch hits a solo.
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Hope to see a full house at today's game!
 
I'd still like to see them bring back Josh bell in a trade, but only if they can extend him for next year. They don't have anyone in the minors who will be ready for at leat another year.
 
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bison13 said:
Who were these guys tonight? 7 bombs???
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2 grand slams, and watching Skenes master the art of pitching is just fun...
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The Spin Meister said:
Two grand slams. They ran out off fireworks to shoot after home runs!
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Each by Reynolds and Tellez, who each had a homer before their grand slam. Inmy many years as a Buccos fan, I don't recall such an explosive offensive game. 💛🏴‍☠️💛
 
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Great for one night. If only they could have distributed that production for Skenes a little more evenly over his past 5 starts, a multiple more wins for both.
 
The Spin Meister said:
Skenes had no hitter, one walk through seven innings. But had thrown 99 pitches. New pitcher in eighth…..who quickly loaded the bases. But got out it.

Pirates win 1-0.

Trouble with strike out pitchers……they tend to get high pitch counts.
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It was a nice win for the Pirates to take the series against the Brewers.
 
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Obliviax said:
that is amazing. this kid could be the next Nolan Ryan or the babe ruth of pitchers if he stays healthy. Next to Ohtani, I'd call him the next most exciting player in MLB right now.
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Best part about him that gets little attention is that he is not just a fireball thrower but has five different pitches. He can make hitters look really bad with all his changes in speed.
 
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OldiesAtTheGaff said:
Gonzales, Mlodzinski, Holderman, and good to see Bednar back on the mound to close.
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Holderman tried to let the Sox back in it.

If they can sweep they will be 500 at the break, a couple games out of the wild card. If they can get a bat or if a couple of their normal guys actually start to hit the ball they have a chance. Unfortunately, I see neither happening. I do like Bart as the solution at C though, Grandal can hit the bricks.
 
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