I find it surprising that you don't hear much talk about these kids on here? The bigger one beat Forrest (and some other big names), and whether you think is was a 'caught' thing or not, it still shows up as a W on his record. And the smaller one gave Bassett all he could handle at Ironman, giving him his closest match of the tournament. On those lines (and maybe I'm still thinking like a D1 coach), but I think both these boys have a greater upside than some of the kids mentioned on here. Take Bassett for example. Kid gets top of the line coaching at YG and M2, I hear he works out with College kids frequently, and has one of the best kids in the nation as a practice partner. On the other hand, Raney has his brother as his only legit partner, not near the coaching level that Bassett has, and not near the partners. Who do you think has more upside? I personally think Bassett is already a finished product with not much ceiling left, whereas Raney's have not even touched their potential yet.