Senior Worlds (non Olympic weights) - October 28-31, 2024
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So you root against nobody?
I said it on the day DT's move was announced and I'll say it again. His hire at Ok State will be a bigger issue for Iowa than for Penn State. Fact is that there was no HC position available at PSU and there won't be for quite a while (hopefully). If DT wanted a HC position, this one was probably the best that was ever going to be offered to him until way down the road. So good for him. I wouldn't be heartbroken if in 20 or so years he came back to PSU as Cael's successor. But I'm not worrying about that now.
Maybe Tikk10 can help me out here, but a lot of companies are now requiring people to sign non-compete agreements when they leave the company. Some of these agreements are enforceable and some are not. (Isn’t that what Willie got into with Flo?)
Bottom line is that I don’t think we’ll ever see the day where a school requires a coach or former athlete to sign a non-compete agreement when they decide to go somewhere else. The word “fascism” is getting tossed around a lot lately, but I think that would be a perfect example of true fascism.
Bottom line is that I don’t think we’ll ever see the day where a school requires a coach or former athlete to sign a non-compete agreement when they decide to go somewhere else. The word “fascism” is getting tossed around a lot lately, but I think that would be a perfect example of true fascism.
We'll never see it because no head coach or top assistant will ever sign it. The absolute most that could ever happen is: can't go to another conference team -- which is unlikely to happen, and wouldn't impact PSU except maybe basketball.
No way would I want that. High level wrestling coaches start to fray at the edges by their mid 50s. I don't want a 54 year old David Taylor. I'd want someone mid-30s like he is now. Our next coach may be on the team right now.
I agree it's highly unlikely. He could come to groom the next coach and complete the circle. But would you be heartbroken?
According to the interwebs, Bobby Douglas was born in 1942, He was in his late 50's coaching Cael and was 62 when named Oly HC in 2004.
"Sometimes age and guile beat youth and a bad haircut"
Cael's successor could very well be Nick Lee, if you are looking for youth. Mid 20's not mid 30's like DT, will sharpen his skills as an assistant and then know not only Div 1 wrestling, but Penn State. And of course, we don't know what Casey's ambitions are-sometimes its better to be No. 2 in the indisputably best place than No. 1 elsewhere.
Added advantage: Will never have to trip over telling the world if you want to be the best, come to Penn State, then defecting weeks later.
I love DT and his arc since committing to PSU in 2009. Great memories in the PSU singlet and then in freestyle. He is going to be great at OSU (unfortunately). That said, there is a level of talent coming through in the period 2020-2030 at PSU where we should just wish David well. Once he rebuilds OSU, he ain't coming back for any reason to destroy that legacy. I think he is lost forever to OSU unless he fails, which is unlikely.I agree it's highly unlikely. He could come to groom the next coach and complete the circle. But would you be heartbroken?
Stalling... proof the change from the PSU way has started. 😉
Also, I wish DT well as a coach for OSU he can finish 2nd to PSU for the next 50 years and I will not care.
News flash he isn't the most successful wrestler in penn state history
Non-compete agreements were already getting the side-eye from judges as anti-competitive when the FTC banned them outright in April. Then a district court issued an injunction, so they're still permitted as of this moment. I'm going to guess FTC Commissioner Lina Khan won't be kept over in the new administration, and non-competes once again flourish.
That said, there are particular industries--small ponds with the same group of fish---where non-competes are a nonstarter because it would hurt the owners ability to hire. A head coach of a team (or even an assistant) has little job security, and would be stupid to sign something that prevents him/her from finding a new gig for years after they're fired. Likewise, owners would have greatly reduced pool from which to hire if all the owners were using non-competes. A guaranteed contract for term can function similarly, but it's typically in everyone's interest to release coaches from those contracts.
I'm generally opposed to non-competes but I would describe those that favor them as industrialists or anti-labor, not fascists. But again, in small ponds like sports, where most of the qualified candidates are visible, known quantities, it's in no one's interest to restrict movement.
Non competes usually come with "golden handcuffs" and/or buyouts if the individual is a big enough fish. When mega fund manager Bill Ackman wanted Hunter Harrison to be the CEO of the CSX, he convinced the Board to pay Harrison's buyout. Then already known to have health issues, Harrison died months later.
The desire to limit the potential disclosure of trade secrets, high level strategy or C suite personnel assesments isn't fascism, and sonebody making the claim needs to add some tools to their box so they don't keep using hammers for screws.
The FTC and the judicial bureaucrats aren't very bright. Killing NC'S will only encourage the use of other tools, mostly richer and more pay packages as a method of keeping C Suite pigs from squealing at another trough.
Because of course, we can all agree that the narcissistic sociopaths ( fact, not conjecture) that inhabit the upper echelons of corporate power are underpaid and lack opporrunity.
The desire to limit the potential disclosure of trade secrets, high level strategy or C suite personnel assesments isn't fascism, and sonebody making the claim needs to add some tools to their box so they don't keep using hammers for screws.
The FTC and the judicial bureaucrats aren't very bright. Killing NC'S will only encourage the use of other tools, mostly richer and more pay packages as a method of keeping C Suite pigs from squealing at another trough.
Because of course, we can all agree that the narcissistic sociopaths ( fact, not conjecture) that inhabit the upper echelons of corporate power are underpaid and lack opporrunity.
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Many companies want non compete, some just protect them a little, others are so over reaching it's not funny.
A company I worked for wanted us to sign one that we couldn't take a job doing the same type work as them within 300 miles LOL..
A welding/fabrication shop..
I know several someones who didn't sign it.
A company I worked for wanted us to sign one that we couldn't take a job doing the same type work as them within 300 miles LOL..
A welding/fabrication shop..
I know several someones who didn't sign it.
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