Shorter in the portal
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To be fair this may be the lethal combination of Shorter just not having the skills to compete against the B10's best CBs, his high personal expectations given his recruiting stars, Clifford's stalled development when it comes to going through progressions, and people pointing out PSU's offensive scheme/coaching deficiencies. Surprised he didn't enter the portal sooner. Won't be surprised when others join him there from that side of the ball.
Unless he transfers to Ohio State or Michigan. Then he gains immediate eligibility.
I think it’s the pattern you call for the kid on the playground where you say, “Go deep..... no, keep going.... keep going..... keep going” before you play with the guys you really to play with.
If he wants to go, he wants to go.
But walking out on his teammates before the season ends is a horseshit move on his part.
But walking out on his teammates before the season ends is a horseshit move on his part.
He stays or he goes, so be it.
I just worry for our society.....what will become of a generation that runs at the first sign of adversity.
Parents: It is time to wake the f up and start handling this crap. Force your kid to be uncomfortable. Force your kid to work through some things. Force your kids to strive to win but knowing that failure is not the end of the road. This is a parents problem....kids only get away with what we let them get away with.
I just worry for our society.....what will become of a generation that runs at the first sign of adversity.
Parents: It is time to wake the f up and start handling this crap. Force your kid to be uncomfortable. Force your kid to work through some things. Force your kids to strive to win but knowing that failure is not the end of the road. This is a parents problem....kids only get away with what we let them get away with.
I hate to say this but my first reaction is "fvck 'em... see ya". I can blame a ton of stuff on coaching, but a continued inability to catch balls that hit you square in the hands is not coaching.
Shorter’s plea for immediate eligibility will reportedly be based on the fact that The Creamery is not open 24 hours a day.
The NCAA will reportedly approve his request as soon as Emmert returns from his Thanksgiving dinner with Delany at Freeh’s place.
The NCAA will reportedly approve his request as soon as Emmert returns from his Thanksgiving dinner with Delany at Freeh’s place.
I assumed he was already gone. No place for him next year. People went nuts over the rotation. There should be nary a whimper when he leaves.
Might want to add there is also the actual coaching aspect of the position in play here. another on the job trainee with no real resume no? I guess you get what you pay for
But. but, but.....it seems so easy to blame everything on coaching.....yet we wonder why our coach may be looking around.
We’ll just see about this.
Specifically, what was it you saw in him to convince you he is an exceptional talent ?
This is why depth is so important...
I believe it was Midnighter that posted that a respected PSU media member cited a tentativeness that hasn't gone away post-injury.
Fortunately for Shorter (and unfortunately that PSU is losing him) it is probably only a matter of time before his concern about re-injury disappears, allowing the talent that many had assessed to once again surface and shine. There is no guarantee that it will ever happen, but it is nevertheless reasonable to expect that it will.
Concerning size and speed, the posts about lack of speed are perplexing considering that there were plays that he outran a "fast" PSU ball-carrier (was it Ford?, was it Dotson?) to make a block downfield...
Concerning drops, it was basically one game (MN)...besides that one game it is unclear when all of the other purported oft-referenced "drops" occurred.
If it makes people feel better everyone is free to opine about how bad of a player 6 has been, but besides the injury-plagued redshirt season and the lack of targets (whether due to not getting open or whether due to QB maturation), the level of criticism of the player seems disproportionately high.
His injury last season hindered development...
I believe it was Midnighter that posted that a respected PSU media member cited a tentativeness that hasn't gone away post-injury.
Fortunately for Shorter (and unfortunately that PSU is losing him) it is probably only a matter of time before his concern about re-injury disappears, allowing the talent that many had assessed to once again surface and shine. There is no guarantee that it will ever happen, but it is nevertheless reasonable to expect that it will.
Concerning size and speed, the posts about lack of speed are perplexing considering that there were plays that he outran a "fast" PSU ball-carrier (was it Ford?, was it Dotson?) to make a block downfield...
Concerning drops, it was basically one game (MN)...besides that one game it is unclear when all of the other purported oft-referenced "drops" occurred.
If it makes people feel better everyone is free to opine about how bad of a player 6 has been, but besides the injury-plagued redshirt season and the lack of targets (whether due to not getting open or whether due to QB maturation), the level of criticism of the player seems disproportionately high.
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Hopefully like Wade and CSB last year, he pulls his name and realizes this is the best place for him.
5 receivers coming in the next class plus Dunmore. Next man up...
of course they dont teach drops that's stupid statement in and of itself.. but they do teach other things like technique which can lead to drops, how come he didn't high point the ball in the Minny game.. what you do in a game is a reflection of practice and practice habits. Who runs practice?
I forgot the players just show up and the coaches have nothing to do with their development--they all already are 5 star diamonds. LOL
We all know the player is to execute, where were you when Giesecki(sp) dropped all those balls early in his career? in addition to his continued work to get better pray tell who helped him get better or more importantly how to get better. I doubt he did it all on his own.
People can blame the coaching if they want and I have been less than thrilled with some of the game-day play calling. However when you have players like Godwin, Hamilton, Gesicki, Hamler, Dotson and Freiermuth all consistently catching the ball and J. Johnson, Polk, and now Shorter struggling to catch the ball, I struggle to blame that on coaching. Having said that, I wish Justin all the best. Good luck!
I wish him well no matter what he decides, but I hope he stays at PSU. If he leaves, I would not be surprised to see him thrive in another offense. Again, expectations - fans expect immediate and impressive results when a player comes in with high praise. In Shorter's case the praise was high indeed.
Agreed. There is something fundamentally wrong with a player who quits on his team with 1 game left in the season. If he wanted to leave after Rutgers, who cares? This is how it is. Doing it now, is pure BS.
don't have to explain anything sometime players rise above their coaches and are just players... genius
I totally disagree with all of your points except he had an inflated sense of how good he was. Your criticism of Clifford is particularly off base. The final point that one malcontent leaving is the harbinger of many defections is ridiculous.
Kids learn to high point the ball in Pop Warner. He was a 5 star out of high school and you are telling me he didn't understand he had to jump up to catch the ball? He has been a disappointment and now he has quit. But, it is all the coaches fault.
Shorter did not come back for the ball on one play against OSU. JF went nuts on the sideline. That's all I had to see. Clearly the staff's been frustrated with Shorter.
I agree. Talk about disrespecting the seniors to be recognized this Saturday. You want to transfer...why not at least wait till next week? For him to do it now suggests he’s really pissed off about something, IMO.
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