Shorter in the portal

[Lavar5150]

You are correct. Mea Culpa.

I should have said "One of the Dicks", but, then again, someone has to be the "Champ"
You wanna' battle it out with him?



(Here's a little clue:
The PSU offense is - and has been - a disjointed, "stupid", rudderless clusterf^ck for the last two years. Any high-end-talent kid looking to maximize his production would be doing the same as Shorter. It is what it is.
But you can join with the other NattyLite-Pounding, Chest-Beating dingle****s who want to rag on the kid who's getting the short end of the stick..... just because you haven't been able to get as much wood over "your" team as you would like.)

Regardless of what you think of the offense, Shorter got tons of time for the little production. I could care less if he leaves. The fact that he does it before the season ends shows his character. Looks like an entitled player who would rather believe his hype than own up to the fact that college is full of talented players and maybe he needs to work harder.

 

[AWS1022]

He stays or he goes, so be it.

I just worry for our society.....what will become of a generation that runs at the first sign of adversity.

Parents: It is time to wake the f up and start handling this crap. Force your kid to be uncomfortable. Force your kid to work through some things. Force your kids to strive to win but knowing that failure is not the end of the road. This is a parents problem....kids only get away with what we let them get away with.

What adversity? He has had every opportunity in the world. Any adversity was self created.

 

[Shadow99]

Shorter wears no. 6.

Good point!

Upon investigation , do you know where I got the 15 from? His twitter handle is @JustinShorter15, lol. Disturbing how the subconscious can work sometimes...the correction has been made.

 

[bvillebaron]

Here we go.......

Don’t let the door hit you Justin.

 

[psu00]

It does not get better until rahne goes into the portal.

Unfortunately, I think there is some truth in this.

 

[marshall23]

don't have to explain anything sometime players rise above their coaches and are just players... genius

So 9 times, hopefully 10 after this week the players have "risen above their coaches," and won. Is PSU the only team that wins 10 games "in spite of their coaches?"

 

[AWS1022]

don't have to explain anything sometime players rise above their coaches and are just players... genius

And some sink below their coaches and are just not as good as originally thought...genius.

 

[marshall23]

Shorter did not come back for the ball on one play against OSU. JF went nuts on the sideline. That's all I had to see. Clearly the staff's been frustrated with Shorter.

Yeah, all coming into focus. He got yelled at......so he quit.

 

[manofsteel200]

Is this a result of not getting looks or plays designed to go to him?

 

[MWes11]

Kids learn to high point the ball in Pop Warner. He was a 5 star out of high school and you are telling me he didn't understand he had to jump up to catch the ball? He has been a disappointment and now he has quit. But, it is all the coaches fault.

Pretty much this.

 

[83wuzme]

Shorter had inside position on Winfield for that ball, but in the words of the announcer, “ he ( Winfield ) just went up higher than a much taller receiver “.

 

[Lion8286]

don't have to explain anything sometime players rise above their coaches and are just players... genius

don't have to explain = can't explain. Thanks for confirming.

 

[AWS1022]

Kids learn to high point the ball in Pop Warner. He was a 5 star out of high school and you are telling me he didn't understand he had to jump up to catch the ball? He has been a disappointment and now he has quit. But, it is all the coaches fault.

I posted a couple of weeks ago that everyone was talking how Shorter and Slade would go into the portal, everyone knows it, yet the coaches will still get blamed for it and some posters will be outraged by it. So predictable.

 

[marshall23]

Is this a result of not getting looks or plays designed to go to him?

When you are productive, you get looks, you get "targeted". I doubt that Clifford is playing a game of "keep away," with wide open, game breaking receivers.

 

[RGWhirly]

As I said in another thread, having Seniors will no longer be a point of pride.

BS. Some student athletes, even elite ones will want to come back and finish what they consider unfinished business.

 

[AvalonJohn]

Did he drop the transfer papers?
I’ll show myself out.

Yeah, rumor is he tried to take them the last three weeks and was finally successful this week ….

 

[AWS1022]

of course they dont teach drops that's stupid statement in and of itself.. but they do teach other things like technique which can lead to drops, how come he didn't high point the ball in the Minny game.. what you do in a game is a reflection of practice and practice habits. Who runs practice?

I forgot the players just show up and the coaches have nothing to do with their development--they all already are 5 star diamonds. LOL

We all know the player is to execute, where were you when Giesecki(sp) dropped all those balls early in his career? in addition to his continued work to get better pray tell who helped him get better or more importantly how to get better. I doubt he did it all on his own.

Using this logic, every mistake a player makes on the field is the coach’s fault.

 

[tboyer]

Can't people just calm down? People go into the portal and come back (ask Wade how that worked out). People de-commit and re-commit (ask Parsons how it worked out).

He may be finally done at PSU or maybe this was a way to get the staff's attention and have some off-season discussions with PSU (and other potential schools) before he decides what to do.

I've been really hopeful about Shorter but you have to admit he has played a lot and not produced a lot -- though it's still early in his career. He's a redshirt freshman for crissakes.

If he does leave, there will be dozens of receivers in the transfer portal so plenty of opportunities for PSU to stock the position. And there will be excellent redshirt freshmen and true freshmen receivers coming in. PSU's going to be fine with Shorter or without him.

I do hope he ends up staying though because there's still a good chance he will be a productive college player and I would like that to happen at PSU.

 

[sluggo72]

Shorter had inside position on Winfield for that ball, but in the words of the announcer, “ he ( Winfield ) just went up higher than a much taller receiver “.

and you make the call!!!!....

 

[Texas Lion]

I agree. Talk about disrespecting the seniors to be recognized this Saturday. You want to transfer...why not at least wait till next week? For him to do it now suggests he’s really pissed off about something, IMO.

This is the "cha-cha-cha" sung at birthday parties. I kill my kids if they think of doing it. It puts attention on you, not on the person who has the actual birthday.

Justin doing this now, today, is simply a "look at me" instead of being a team guy and waiting until Sunday.

I also think that you become what you hang around with. (If he is indeed roommates with Slade)...can you imagine how much bashing goes on in that apartment?

 

[AWS1022]

BS. Some student athletes, even elite ones will want to come back and finish what they consider unfinished business.

Apparently only for Bama or Clemson though.

 

[uhlerlion]

Kids learn to high point the ball in Pop Warner. He was a 5 star out of high school and you are telling me he didn't understand he had to jump up to catch the ball? He has been a disappointment and now he has quit. But, it is all the coaches fault.

Really they are taught that early..OMG stop the presses..once again a stupid statement--- its all the coaches fault---. No one said ALL ..reading comprehension can be your friend...but please tell me that the resume of the current WR coach speaks to you of experience and has been there and done that and is the guy you want teaching . This is PSU not f'in Duke. Obviously all coaches have a base level of knowledge or are supposed to teach SOME DO IT WAY BETTER THAN OTHERS. The notion that a few WR's may not take to being taught a certain way is off the table and its all on the player is just flat out ignorant-- well good for you. Glad you have such experience to just be able blame your players 100%

 

[Omar81]

To be fair this may be the lethal combination of Shorter just not having the skills to compete against the B10's best CBs, his high personal expectations given his recruiting stars, Clifford's stalled development when it comes to going through progressions, and people pointing out PSU's offensive scheme/coaching deficiencies. Surprised he didn't enter the portal sooner. Won't be surprised when others join him there from that side of the ball.

Or it could be a lethal combination of he can’t catch, and he can’t catch.

 

[bvillebaron]

So 9 times, hopefully 10 after this week the players have "risen above their coaches," and won. Is PSU the only team that wins 10 games "in spite of their coaches?"

Are you this clueless? Sorry rhetorical question.

 

[anon_1eeb2b426hv3y]

Here we go.......

I’ll wait on this. Reviewing his options doesn’t mean he’s leaving.

 

[mn78psu83]

and you make the call!!!!....

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Shorter did not make a good adjustment on the ball. The throw, however, was poor. That ball has to at least be inside, even if underthrown.

 

[RGWhirly]

Unfortunately, I think there is some truth in this.

Yeah. I would send him, the WR coach and the secondary coach to the portal.

 

[uhlerlion]

don't have to explain = can't explain. Thanks for confirming.

Yawn

 

[psu00]

Agreed. There is something fundamentally wrong with a player who quits on his team with 1 game left in the season. If he wanted to leave after Rutgers, who cares? This is how it is. Doing it now, is pure BS.

We don’t know all the reasoning for him leaving, but I agree with you that players (in general) seem to have less fortitude and commitment to the team than in the past.

 

[sluggo72]

Yeah. I would send him, the WR coach and the secondary coach to the portal.

hmmm 2 years in a row we have to fire the WR coach? Something doesnt sound right.

 

[bvillebaron]

Or it could be a lethal combination of he can’t catch, and he can’t catch.

That couldn’t possibly be. It’s the coaches fault; just read all the posts from all the “experts” on here.

 

[marshall23]

There is some justice in the transfer portal. A player at a particular position can't break thru and see and field.......perhaps he gets recruited over and wants to move on where there may be a quicker path to getting on the field. No hard feelings. This is a different story. JS got on the field and didn't make a splash. Instead of looking in the mirror, he acts like looking in the rear view mirror will "cure" his problems.
Another thing to ponder......if you recall Fleming used Shorter as an excuse for not coming to PSU......waaaay back. Do you think its possible that Shorter has been bad mouthing the program all along?

 

[Omar81]

Congrats.... you win "Dick of the Day" (Though you are sure to face heavy competition wrt this topic)


In the meantime..... when Shorter - like JJohnson - goes elsewhere, and becomes a significant contributor to a sensible offense, who's "fault" is that?

And why did an offense loaded with more "blue chip" skill players than it has ever had - - - - - at least according to the recruiting guru masturbators - - - - - now, for the last two years, repeatedly tripped over its own dick?

There ain't no fixing stupid... not when it is adamant.

Excellent use of poor grammar, anonymous name-calling, and multiple crude statements all in one otherwise stupid post. He can’t catch the football. Juwan could not catch the football. If they have some sort of epiphany with that basic skill, yippee for them. But they both were extreme disappointments at PSU.

I blame the coaches for lots of things, but the pitiful performance of these two is their own responsibility.

 

[AWS1022]

hmmm 2 years in a row we have to fire the WR coach? Something doesnt sound right.

I certainly hope some of these posters aren’t in any type of management position...firing employees daily has got to be difficult to keep a business running.

 

[Texas Lion]

Would love to see JFF use Dunmore on Saturday and Dunmore go off! The poor timing of this makes me very vindictive.

 

[anon_1eeb2b426hv3y]

He has to sit a year out right?

Who the heck knows at this point.

 

[marshall23]

We don’t know all the reasoning for him leaving, but I agree with you that players (in general) seem to have less fortitude and commitment to the team than in the past.

Again, I wouldn't give a damn if he waited one more game.

 

[AWS1022]

There is some justice in the transfer portal. A player at a particular position can't break thru and see and field.......perhaps he gets recruited over and wants to move on where there may be a quicker path to getting on the field. No hard feelings. This is a different story. JS got on the field and didn't make a splash. Instead of looking in the mirror, he acts like looking in the rear view mirror will "cure" his problems.
Another thing to ponder......if you recall Fleming used Shorter as an excuse for not coming to PSU......waaaay back. Do you think its possible that Shorter has been bad mouthing the program all along?

The portal should only be open to players who aren’t playing or if a coach leaves.

 

[PearlSUJam]

He has to sit a year out right?

The Dave Peterson letter makes him eligible immediately to start for Clemson this week.

 

[The Spin Meister]

and you make the call!!!!....

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That ball was seriously poorly thrown!