Singleton and Kaytron both coming back next year?
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I hope they do but that source is as reliable as ________.
You fill in the blank.
I have been thinking it was possible. Both seem to be having the best time of their life, happy with their roles and their teammates. If NIL minimizes the economic risk, maybe they feel happy enough to come back for another semester—been there.
Other factors: Singleton played hurt which limited his success and the draft is polluted with running backs this year.
Other factors: Singleton played hurt which limited his success and the draft is polluted with running backs this year.
Didn't Allar announce he is coming back? Putting way too much stock in the alleged NFL "rumors"
If Allar finds out he's a projected top 5 pick he changes his mind. The next game or 2 will go a long way in deciding that. Franklin has to be able to tell him to go if that's the projection.
I doubt he goes pro though. He's loyal to a fault. Great for us but if he wants to play college ball next year does anyone truly think our offense is the best to showcase him?
I think Allar could go top ten. Tough to pass on…. However, drafted high and getting demolished when you play too soon is pretty common, so that second contract might not happen. Especially if you go to a team without a line and good coaching.
Perhaps another year of playing and working on your weaknesses is more lucrative long term. The second contract is key.
Perhaps another year of playing and working on your weaknesses is more lucrative long term. The second contract is key.
I believe Allen would be harder to replace than Singleton. Martin, Smith and/or Wallace would all be nice compliments to Allen who could take another 5 carries a game and continue to be the bull of a runner he has been down the stretch this season.
The downside is a younger player with more years might end up transferring.
If Allar is returning.....the two RBs return....... plenty of OL talent around next year......Kotelnicki staying around......you would think that WRs would be lining up to get to Happy Valley......
What does the PSU offense lose aside from Warren? Fleming?
Reynolds looks like the real deal at TE. I assume Dinkins returns and Rappleyea will be healthy. Maybe we get a good impact WR in the portal.
One thing that Allar has going for him is he is relatively young. He is still 20 and will have at least 29 starts. I know there is a narrative that more college starts leads to more success, but I think that has been statistically debunked.
I can't fault anybody for what they decide to do. It is their life after all. If he doesn't come back good for him. If he does good for him.
Warren is the majority of the pass game and while i like Reynolds he's not Warren and likely won't be
We need two impact WRs in the portal in addition to the two depth guys we've added
Correct--that narrative has been debunked and 29-30 starts is plenty
And, I agree, it's his life, he should do what he thinks is best for him--I believe he's getting bad advice and his loyalty is hurting him here.
Happy for us if he does return--those of us that don't just blindly hate him because he's a 5 star kid so they believe he has to be perfect will love watching him play 13-17 games next year.
If we win the natty in a few weeks all three may leave with a couple others.
If we lose this week most if not all will return for unfinished business.
A big question is if they do win it all how much does their NIL go up? If money pours in they could win the title and still come back another year.
If we lose this week most if not all will return for unfinished business.
A big question is if they do win it all how much does their NIL go up? If money pours in they could win the title and still come back another year.
Unfortunately “might” is likely nowadays. Hopefully they have patience (if this news is true.)
I say one or both are definitely coming back with a good financial package.
Seems like a lot of the draft eligible team are thinking about returning. I like the culture Franklin has created.
Good to know NIL has a plus side to it along with the transfer-out side.
True but RB is the one place a freshman can come in and be ready, see NS and KA as freshmen. 2 good ones coming in, two from last year, one from the year before that. Even if two leave I think they still have 3 quality ones behind them.
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Warren had exactly 1/3 of our total passing yardage. Nowhere near a “majority.” In addition to be an obnoxious jerk, you suck at math.
Excellent point. Can make more in NIL if you’re a later round draft pick in some cases
He had more than Evans and Wallace combined
If you don't comprehend he's the focal point of the offense and everything plays of him (making him "the majority" of the pass game) I'm not surprised
Merry Old Lando moving the goal posts as he always has to do after shooting off his mouth. “Warren is the majority of the pass game magically becomes “he’s the focal point of the offense” when caught in the 20,000th Lando Lie.
The rest of your response reads like a Joe Biden debate answer:
“If you don't comprehend he's the focal point of the offense and everything plays of him (making him "the majority" of the pass game) I'm not surprised.”
You don't comprehend the entire playbook is designed around him right now in the pass game?
If I said "had the majority of the yards" you'd be right but you never read anything--hence the personal attack nonsense
With being 20 he will want to come back next year for the State College Bar Scene.
Cafe 210, Primantis, Doggies oh he will be back.
Cafe 210, Primantis, Doggies oh he will be back.
That’s not what you said, brainless. You said Warren is the majority of the pass game when clearly he is only 1/3 of the pass game which is nowhere close to the majority. When this absolute fact is pointed out to you, that you are running your mouth again about things you don’t know, you immediately change your assertion, engage in wordsmithing and circular reasoning i.e. moving the goalposts. It’s your M. O. I’m merely pointing it out. Fact. As you like to say.
Probably not and his point is not even accurate. We have 7 WRs committed who all 4* by at least one service.
The WRs who he complains about were all recruited by previous coaches.
The WRs in the 2025 class will contribute more than the 2025 QB.
I believe we will start to see more players returning because of the NIL stuff. Seems like a coin flip to me.
Is it not fair to say that PSU has not developed a solid WR since Hagans joined the staff?
If they both come back and have similar seasons, they will both end up in the top 3 of all of the all-time statistical categories at their position. And that's only because it's tough to surpass Saquon.
And we might end up with another good season with them, Drew, and the OLine, even if I were playing Receiver!
And we might end up with another good season with them, Drew, and the OLine, even if I were playing Receiver!
I agree. We might be better off in the long run with Allen coming back but Singleton going to the NFL. We might lose Martin, Smith, and/or Wallace to the portal if both come back.
Every team loses players every year. If Warren is our only loss on offense next year, it is not unreasonable to believe our offense should be better next year. In fact, I believe it is likely that our offense will be better. The other players will be more experienced by one year and should improve at each such position. The offensive line has a chance to be dominant. Warren’s replacement will not be as good but will be a solid player.
As a side note, you are like a broken record. We get it. You think Allar should move on and the loss of Warren is going to doom our offense. Saying the same thing a million times does not make you more correct. When you say the same thing in a thread 10 times, you are not adding anything and you make the thread unreadable. I think most on this board would appreciate if you would just make your point, let others agree/disagree and move on. You don’t need to argue the same unprovable point of view ad nauseam.
If the discussion continues I'll continue as well. Simple.
It's completely unreasonable to believe without adding an elite receiver in the portal the pass gam with improve. The offense may be better as a run first offense but that's doesn't benefit Allar's development
You assume no improvement by the current receivers. Possible, but I believe some improvement is likely. You also fail to take into account ann improved, more experienced offensive line will give Allar more time to find open receivers and more time for the receivers to get open. A better run offense makes the defense defend the run more which opens up the passing game. You cannot look at things in a vacuum.
Even some improvement doesn't make up for the loss of Warren. You need an elite guy. No one on our roster or that we've added has that potential so far.
If we became a run heavy offense which is what you're suggesting...how does that help Allar? This is a vacuum. This is strictly about Allar's decision to return and the benefits to him. Not the offense or how it helps Penn State. This is strictly about does it benefit Allar to come back. For it to do so, his draft stock has to rise drastically in a better QB class. How does that happen with the roster we have?
