In other words, you have no clue. Instead you suggest a solution that would put PSU through a meat-grinder, when there is a much easier remedy if Barron and Barbour would get off their asses, especially with a new commissioner taking office on January 1.
So, Big Ten apologists...
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In other words, you have no clue. Instead you suggest a solution that would put PSU through a meat-grinder, when there is a much easier remedy if Barron and Barbour would get off their asses, especially with a new commissioner taking office on January 1.
Yes, and I also realize that the NCAA has far more control over basketball than it does football.
And just a note: football officials are not exclusive to a conference either, thought the opportunities to officiate football games makes it seem so.
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What exactly do you mean?
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ok lets stop....Penn State is not moving to the ACC for crying out loud
I know, its just crazy thinking they are going to leave the Big 10 over referee calls vs the money , commitments and other sports. It gets a bit ridiculous.
This is true. But that doesn't mean the officiating shouldn't be fixed. So far, none of the higher ups at PSU seem to care enough to invest some effort, so I guess we're stuck with it.
Possibly at our AD's next press conference she could address the situation.......
People thought it was ridiculous leaving being an Independent and throwing in with the sorry a$$ Big10 Conference. And they were proven correct!
We landed a man on the moon. Let’s try to suspend the hyperbole that schools can switch Conferences - happens all the time.
Fair enough, but how do you know that this will yield positive results. You can speculate, but others can't I guess. Unlike many, I'm not all that enamored with the money aspect. How's this affiliation been working out for Penn State academically by the way? Certainly no positive correlation.
To your point, it might work if they had the balls to at least threaten to leave if this isn't remedied and also demand back our $60MM. But I think we both know this isn't happening.
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Whatever does this have to do with the OP's comment? He didn't say anything at all about the ACC. Why don't you go back to what you were doing before; Delany's not gonna stay hard for long!
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. PSU has really dropped due to the scandal, taking more OOS kids for $$, etc. Joining the B1G didn’t hurt PSU academically.
. But pretty darned rare in the case of the B1G. Like EXTREMELY rare.
The new commissioner is actually on the job now. He started on 9/16 to shadow fvck face until the end of the year. Barron and her highness need to skip Delaney and go to Warren instead to get out in front of this, and set the tone with this new guy that PSU is not going to take this crap any more. He needs to own this and clean house.
How do I know that lobbying hard for improvement in officiating? Well, gee, there are no guarantees in life, so I guess I don't know. But PSU's efforts have been half-assed at best. Barron isn't involved. Barbour delegates it to various AADs who drop the matter after a phone call or two. Neither Barron or Barbour have spoken at length with Kevin Warren about anything substantive.
Don't know why you, or anyone else, expected any significant academic payoff from the association with the Big Ten. It has always been about the money. Or were you buying the horseshit that Delany and and the presidents always shovel out so they don't appear pre-occupied with anything as filthy as money?
The new commish won’t be anti-PSU. He simply has no history with all of the nonsense when we joined. Another reason not to leave
I'm aware of that. Warren has no previous Big Ten connections (neither did Delany) and seems committed to charting his own course.His biggest obstacle will be dealing with the gaggle of school presidents, which is unlike anything he's encountered before. Agree that Barron and Barbour have to get on him early, but so far they haven't done squat.
Yes, PSU has leverage, but unused leverage is as good as no leverage.
With you, I never bought into that for a second. My point was many do and there is no correlation let alone cause and effect. Regarding lobbying the Big Ten for anything, remember we're talking about a university here that pays victims without vetting and accepted a $60MM fine with zero push back. So, to expect anything positive to come from this is very wishful thinking at best.
Ain't no pixie dust here. Fixing it requires work to which Barron and Barbour seem allergic. They just don't fvcking care. Maybe they would if they were deluged with letters from fans who do.
[QUOTE="Art, post: 4388379, member: 146"]Ain't no pixie dust here. Fixing it requires work to which Barron and Barbour seem allergic. They just don't fvcking care. Maybe they would if they were deluged with letters from fans who do.[/QUOTE]
This is why I love your posts, Art!
This is why I love your posts, Art!
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Some refs are just plain bad, but you guys are wasting your breath about leaving the B1G. It ain't happening, that ship sailed long ago. Might as well pull up a chair and get comfy, we gonna be here awhile. Don't have to like it, but accepting it is better for your personal stress level.
Don't worry, no chance of that. PSU has proven time and again that they don't care what their alumni think. They just want our money, no questions asked.Oh, you’ve convinced me you’re right.
Glad nobody at PSU is listening to you though.
Anytime anyone on these boards complains about the B1G, it quickly turns into some fantasy of leaving for the ACC. And the OP calls out B1G “apologists,” so you do the math.
I may not like some of the officiating calls, and the difference in the way we were treated vs OSU and Meatchicken Light, but that doesn’t mean I think the solution is to run to the crappola ACC, for significantly less money, far less prestige in football. and a southern bias.
Either get over it or let it bother you for the rest of your life ... I myself still can't get over the re-writing of history with whatever Columbus Day is being called in la la land.
Imagine being a Rutgers fan for one second. Sometimes when I hear PSU fans complain, I think, if u only knew real misery. Guys ur undefeated with a great team. Be happy.
Cab drivers once sat fat and happy on union wages then suddenly Uber appeared. Big10 permanence is status quo thinking at its finest.
