Michael Robinson. Led Penn State to the 2005 Big Ten Championship. One of the greatest all time PSU'ers.Who's Robinson? Is he related to Keister?
Michael Robinson. Led Penn State to the 2005 Big Ten Championship. One of the greatest all time PSU'ers.Who's Robinson? Is he related to Keister?
Sounds like Clifford is not at practice today.
Does this surprise anyone?Liam is there, Sean is not…
This is total bullshit. Sean is the same guy that played his senior year of high school with a painful torn labrum and lead his St X team to an Ohio State championship.FWIW:
Source - Franklin has some team unity issues to address this week. Some on the team miffed Clifford didn't try to play through whatever pain he was having.
Me - isn't the decision to play at that point in the hands of medical staff?
Source - I'm just telling you what was relayed first hand to me.
You guys are funny, guys on this team don't care what he did in high school, they needed him Saturday. They knew from the start of the season the back up qb's can't get it done.This is total bullshit. Sean is the same guy that played his senior year of high school with a painful torn labrum and lead his St X team to an Ohio State championship.
"IF" Clifford could play I would still start Roberson. I would only play Clifford if he was needed to win the game.Who's Robinson? Is he related to Keister?
That is your takeaway? You are the funny one.You guys are funny, guys on this team don't care what he did in high school, they needed him Saturday. They knew from the start of the season the back up qb's can't get it done.
Right. Ask Gronk what happens when you try to play with broken ribs. Tough guy went back into the game and found out he had a punctured lung after the game and he's been out for weeks. Luckily it wasn't worse.
You’re an idiot. Per Franklin, Clifford “is doing all he can to get back.” But somehow he was supposed to make it back on Saturday. If Clifford was good to go Saturday, he would have probably practiced today. But hey, you have a negative narrative you want to push.You guys are funny, guys on this team don't care what he did in high school, they needed him Saturday. They knew from the start of the season the back up qb's can't get it done.
Don’t you know the fans deserve these kids to risk their lives to play for our entertainment….we deserve a win at all cost.You’re an idiot. Per Franklin, Clifford “is doing all he can to get back.” But somehow he was supposed to make it back on Saturday. If Clifford was good to go Saturday, he would have probably practiced today. But hey, you have a negative narrative you want to push.
That's fine. But DT is really thin too. Did they feel the same about PJ?You guys are funny, guys on this team don't care what he did in high school, they needed him Saturday. They knew from the start of the season the back up qb's can't get it done.
Or what happened to former PSU player Ryan Keiser after breaking ribs
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Safety Ryan Keiser Undergoes Emergency Surgeries for Infection
Penn State senior Ryan Keiser received emergency surgery at the Hershey Medical Center's Intensive Care Unit following possibly fatal complications from a rib injury.onwardstate.com
Still ZERO reason to believe you.Been on here since Plotit.com. Don't feel the need like some people to post continually.
A) we don't know Clifford has broken ribs. They could be bruised or cracked. Or something totally different.Right. Ask Gronk what happens when you try to play with broken ribs. Tough guy went back into the game and found out he had a punctured lung after the game and he's been out for weeks. Luckily it wasn't worse.
So you're saying he should have sucked it up and played through it?A) we don't know Clifford has broken ribs. They could be bruised or cracked. Or something totally different.
B) You realize TE (Gronk) and QB are two very different positions, right?
A) we don't know Clifford has broken ribs. They could be bruised or cracked. Or something totally different.
B) You realize TE (Gronk) and QB are two very different positions, right?
I know the family well. The news article doesn’t cover half of what he and his family went thru. Out of respect for the family I won’t get into details.
Not at all. I'm saying comparison to Gronk's injury is pointless.So you're saying he should have sucked it up and played through it?
Either way I'm sure that weighed on the mind of Franklin and the medical staff when deciding on Clifford's status for the rest of the game, especially on the road without the medical equipment they'd need to confidently make an on the spot decision.
Pretty sure you can't "reset" a rib. Most broken ribs just heal their own and you try to do the right things to protect them. You can't "set" and/or cast a rib.Franklin has not ruled him out for season, so I think that would rule out a fracture that is so severe it needs to be reset and can cause other injuries (i.e., a break similar to what Gronk suffered). The reality is there is not a huge difference between severely bruising the bone or a hairline fracture resulting from flexing the bone.
Obviously you have your experience with a bruised sternum, but I had all of my ribs broken in my 20s and while movement was quite painful, it was not impossible. Two weeks later I could definitely have thrown a football and that's without cutting edge rehab.Look, it doesn't matter if the bone was fractured to the point where it needs to be reset... or was just severely bruised... or was a hairline fracture that didn't require "setting".... the notion that Clifford could have continued playing after the latter 2 is just laughable imho. I severely bruised my sternum (center bone on rib cage) in a sports-related injury in HS (wrestling) - they didn't prescribe anything except rest and inactivity to allow the bone to heal without aggravation. But there is no way I could have participated immediately after, or for weeks, following the injury because the pain level is just too high - and it doesn't matter how tough you are, your nerves will simply shut the body's muscles down beyond a certain pain level (for the good of the body as a whole). No way could Cliff have played after that injury if it was bruised ribs or a hairline fracture from flexing - just could not have physically played, as impossible. Have you ever gotten a severe stinger in your shoulder where your arm loses all real strength and you can't even raise it above a certain level? This happens for the identical reason - the pain is so severe even if you try to use the arm, the body's nerves (i.e., brain and central nervous system) shut the arm muscles down (ditto a severe back spasm). No way Cliff could have played if he did that kind of damage to his ribs regardless of what all these lame internet-warriors are trying to claim.
Pretty sure you can't "reset" a rib. Most broken ribs just heal their own and you try to do the right things to protect them. You can't "set" and/or cast a rib.
Isn't he technically a grad student? He could be taking 3 online classes at this point.Really shocked no student has tweeted photos of him yet.
He is needed to win the game. Roberson will lose the game."IF" Clifford could play I would still start Roberson. I would only play Clifford if he was needed to win the game.
How bout find another team to root for. Roberson will be fine you obviously never played sportsHe is needed to win the game. Roberson will lose the game.