Spencer Lee forfeiting out the rest of the tourney.
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I think it hit Spencer Saturday morning that he wasn't going to be able to keep his promise of delivering 2 team titles before he left.
Him pulling out had nothing to do with him not becoming a 4 timer.
Him pulling out had nothing to do with him not becoming a 4 timer.
Is anyone else worried about copycat crime? What if every non-winning wrestler’s family starts ripping up their glasses after matches? And people without glasses start tearing off their clothes? 🧐 What if it’s Tognetti’s sister? 😬
IDK man, I think a certain curtain rod and a certain dad’s chest may disagree with you on this one. 😉
I have been known to toss a golf club, crumble a set of sunglasses after 3 putting number 18 to lose a golf match, I cried once when I lost a match. Changing the rotors and pads on a car/truck/suv almost always guarantees a few off the handle moments as does the occasional fixer up task that isn't going as smoothly as I planned.
My heart goes out to Mrs. Lee, and I get it. The single problem I have is generally, me acting like a freaking dumbassed idiot is because of something I did.
My wife, kids, grandkids, neices, nephews, parents, siblings I work damn hard to never show disappointment in any of their failures. I hug, reassure, say "I love you" if needed and am available to listen or talk if they want. If I hurt enough (which has been very rare) from their failure that I need to manifest an outward expression it will be done where nobody will ever see it.
Eierman last year in the wrestlebacks was someone exhibiting some tough wrestling.
Exactly. Just man up and wrestle. Its max 2 more matches.
they are opting out due to risking a multi-million pay day. Wrestlers don't have that option except for maybe the sports ex-heavyweight
big tens his freshman year was the last time he was in the wrestlebacks. came back for 3rd.
By current appearances, to me it shows maybe a lack of love to wrestle. If you truly love to wrestle - if it is fun - you wrestle the last two matches of your last NCAA tournament, if at all able.
After coming from behind to beat Ramos in the dual, he came off the mat pretty charged and head-butted Larry in the chest before proceeding to the warm-up area and head-butting the metal frame of a portable privacy curtain.
Larry took it well, but the curtain was pissed.
End of of the day I think both fanbases are happy with what they got out of 2018-2023. The razzing of Spencer can be over the top, especially the mother stuff. But the defensiveness from Iowa fans is a little much, too.
Iowa fans would love to have him get 4 individual titles, PSU fans would love to say the winning streak of titles dates to 2016. Neither got all of what they wanted, but got most of what they wanted.
Iowa fans would love to have him get 4 individual titles, PSU fans would love to say the winning streak of titles dates to 2016. Neither got all of what they wanted, but got most of what they wanted.
If Spencer had come back out Saturday morning, he might have gotten the biggest ovation of the entire tournament. Everyone was stunned by what happened Friday, but still had the utmost respect for Spencer and what he had accomplished.
Spencer wrestled back at Big Tens. He forfeited out of Midlands wrestlebacks after he lost to Ronnie Bresser, but to my knowledge was not newly injured.
Anyway, I can’t believe anyone can’t believe that we would find Spencer’s mother’s reaction noteworthy or discuss it. It was an unhinged and atypical response on national TV. Yes yes she was feeling all kinds of emotions. But oh man did she create quite a spectacle. I’d be shocked if people WEREN’T all discussing it.
Anyway, I can’t believe anyone can’t believe that we would find Spencer’s mother’s reaction noteworthy or discuss it. It was an unhinged and atypical response on national TV. Yes yes she was feeling all kinds of emotions. But oh man did she create quite a spectacle. I’d be shocked if people WEREN’T all discussing it.
I think it's worth mentioning.
Pahurdler has a damn sexy avatar.
Pahurdler has a damn sexy avatar.
Some of the Iowa fans will make fun of injured football players, yell racist insults at opposing wrestlers & call my alumni base "pedophiles".
Then they think waving at kids in a hospital will make it all better.
That's top shelf hypocrisy.
Then they think waving at kids in a hospital will make it all better.
That's top shelf hypocrisy.
Yes. Often. That is why I bought a strong magnet
My eyes are going bad but Science helps For deep weeds....looking for a key.....I used an old speaker. They have very strong magnets. Didn't hurt the speaker and found lots of junk
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I think they are also a little bitter that even in defeat more people are talking about Spencer then are talking about Cael’s 10th. In reality, Spencer never asked to be popular. He just was. He didn’t wanna tell the world he was injured, he looked pissed to be saying it. Spencer never called himself the goat. He adamantly denied it. Spencer doesn’t do well with praise or adulation. He is respectful when he receives it, but no one can say he lives for it.
Many people love to see great men fail. Idk why, I’m sure there are a plethora of reason. My first sentence in the previous paragraph potentially being one of them. This quote comes to mind.
Maybe instead of criticizing Spencer for his publicity, that he didn’t want in the first place, we give credit and thanks for hours of entertainment. All wrestling fans respect him, until he does something that he can be criticized for. Let’s not forget, we are not in his arena. Not even close.
Quite frankly, this is ridiculous.
And most of this thread isn’t? I’m just going along. But I think you missed the point of my message and instead just concentrated on the first paragraph.
Guilty as charged. I stopped reading after the first sentence stupidity
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Don't you have a hospital to go wave at, or something?
Spencer is being criticized currently because he’s a victim on his own greatness. That greatness has brought him attention, adoration, fans, and of course some naysayers.
Now that he has “fallen” people that can not fathom to be in his shoes are criticizing him while not knowing really anything about the situation. Because he’s developed this fame, he’s now dealing with the consequences of stumbling. It’s not a new philosophy, which is why I added the quote.
Sorry, can't feel any sympathy here. He knew that was the deal of going to Iowa being who he was. Thought you guys thrived on being hated? He could have gone to Pitt and chased his dream there. You clearly can win there. I thought the majority of people were rooting for Yianni for the record. Spencer is a good ... no great wrestler ... no special wrestler and by all counts, seems like a good kid. But your fanbases coronation of him as some guy everyone should be rooting for no matter what for the last 6 years have grown tiresome on people beyond just PSU fans, I'll tell you that. Your fanbase have attacked any wrestler who have dared speak up and ever challenge him, including Pat Glory, Killian Cardinale. You guys grown insecure at the very mention of the name Sebastian Rivera and feel the need to rip that he fell short at NCAAs and the discussion that maybe he can't bump up and beat RBY at 133 offended some of you to the core.
Also, maybe some just rooted for the underdog? Purdue hasn't had an All American in 10 years up until that point and Ramos was a 1 time career R12.
To be fair I jumped at the option the insult you after you criticized my post without giving it any though. I responded harshly. I felt a little guilty about that. Now that I see you criticizing the idea that Iowa fans would wave at a hospital full of sick / terminal kids, just so they know that they’re not forgotten and so they can feel a part of something that 70,000 other people are experiencing just outside their window. I don’t feel as guilty now.
The reason sockets find the weeds is greatly increased if they came from Harbor Freight in the first place.
So what you're saying is: he f-ed with the iron curtain and lost.
I’m not asking for sympathy from this forum. I knew coming in that I would get none of that. I just wanted to offer a little introspection. Maybe induce a greater conversation about why we’re so quick to criticize when we see a crack in a color that doesn’t match the color “we” root for. Why it is pleasurable to find amusement from other failures, for them attempting to do what we can only dream of.
I’m being a tad hyperbolic here, but no one except a few people knows what he was dealing with this year. Because he’s Spencer Lee, and he wrestles for Iowa, and fans on this board don’t like a few fans on that other board, and his mom broke her glasses due to her devastation….so on etc. We insult and belittle without thinking twice.
What value does Hawkeyfan1986 bring to this board exactly? He's quick to lecture us for discussing something everyone in wrestling is discussing (Spencer MFFing) then tell us it's not his job to police HR on stuff like pay for play, Sandusky, PEDs. I find it quite hypocritical and patronizing to be honest.
To be fair......the quality of their tools has increased a lot in the last few years. A lot
No. It's not worth the time if the first sentence is that stupid.
Huh? How can I stop idiots from saying that bs about Sandusky. I’ve said in the past that there is no dumber response than bringing that up. No one involved in that tragedy is associated with the University of Penn St, in any way shape or form.
I’ve written the above numerous times. I’m not sure what more action you’d prefer me to take? Maybe i should apply for a job as a moderator?
