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It's a shame, I was really looking forward to seeing Steven's play. Clifford may show glimpses of greatness, but you never really know until they face adversity, on and off the field.

Like it or not, this is going to send a message to current and future QBs. Wait your turn at your own risk, nothing is guaranteed. End result is loyalty buys you nothing. Welcome to the real world.
 
Flounders' post-BW-game video had an interesting observation. Flounders had a hunch that if Clifford got to start for PSU that he wasn't going to relinquish the job. Flouders has seen a lot of all the QBs and Clifford has something.

I've been a little bit of a skeptic about Cliff because he is just immobile enough to be a big sack producer. Protection has to be really good or receivers have to get open almost immediately. But if protection is good, the guy throws a beautiful long ball -- he could be another Kerry Collins type. He can make a lot of throws that McSorley couldn't, and that changes the way secondaries have to play PSU.

Now that Levis is the second-most-senior QB, he'll be a lot of people's favorite -- but he's been my favorite for a while. Levis (reportedly) has really good foot speed AND a really good arm. Levis is the closest thing to being able to run the offense the way McSorley ran it. I don't think Stevens ever proved himself as a consistent thrower, and Cliff is a little too much of a statue for my taste. (and I hasten to add I would love to be wrong about this)


Respectfully, I think you are wrong. I thought Clifford showed very good foot speed this past Sat, much better than expected. It was perhaps the second most pleasant surprise I saw during the game, Cain’s hard running being the most pleasant surprise.

That being said, I hope Stevens doesn’t leave. I think his injury last year was worse than any of us suspected and impacted his play when he was on the field. JMHO, but a healthy Stevens gives us the best shot this year.
 
I wish TS well. I'm disappointed in his decision. If he thinks that CJF should hand him the job, then he's just not realistic. Even if Sean were to win the job he'd be a contributing factor and one play away from being the starter. I have no idea what his options may be going forward. MAC school, lower P5? But again wish him well.
Until we hear both sides (and we may never), it is all speculation.
 
We saw some things from Tommy that showed he could be a great QB. I am thinking of passes he threw in BW Game a few years ago, his running abilities, etc. I was high on him having a great '19 season.
But ... So much for loyalty. How could TS expect to be a leader now that he has entered the portal. This squad needs standup leaders. Guess now that the doctors and trainers have him healthy loyalty does not matter to him and his dad.
This transfer portal is so bad for college football and may be really bad for some guys as well. Guess NCAA football has reached the business end of the game and no longer is about good ole state. imo The NCAA has screwed up badly with this rule.
Wish him luck in his future.
 
It's a shame, I was really looking forward to seeing Steven's play. Clifford may show glimpses of greatness, but you never really know until they face adversity, on and off the field.

Like it or not, this is going to send a message to current and future QBs. Wait your turn at your own risk, nothing is guaranteed. End result is loyalty buys you nothing. Welcome to the real world.
Could also be seen as a positive as no job is guaranteed and best players will play.
 
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IMO, Franklin is doing what's right for the team, and Tommy just learned a lesson he will never forget.

I really, really wish him the best.
I think best for the team is a healthy Tommy Stevens starting in 2019. If Franklin wasn't going to start him this year he shouldn't have convinced him to come back as insurance just so we could go 9-4 last year.
 
Very possible.

The problem with the JoMo theory is that he would be trading a sophomore with limited experience for a 5th year senior with limited experience. Unless there is a significant talent gap between the two, I don't think I would make that trade.
 
We saw some things from Tommy that showed he could be a great QB. I am thinking of passes he threw in BW Game a few years ago, his running abilities, etc. I was high on him having a great '19 season.
But ... So much for loyalty. How could TS expect to be a leader now that he has entered the portal. This squad needs standup leaders. Guess now that the doctors and trainers have him healthy loyalty does not matter to him and his dad.
This transfer portal is so bad for college football and may be really bad for some guys as well. Guess NCAA football has reached the business end of the game and no longer is about good ole state. imo The NCAA has screwed up badly with this rule.
Wish him luck in his future.

He sat on the bench for 4 years, and played wherever and whenever he was asked. That seems pretty loyal to me. This is his last chance to start for a full season and impress NFL teams. Why would you begrudge him making the most of it? It’s easy to demand loyalty from others.
 
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Quite shocking news...I like both, hoped to see Tommy have a big senior year. Clifford is a special thrower. My biggest fear is Trace and Tommy's offense isn't Clifford's. Will be interesting to see how they adapt the offense to Clifford. I loved when he committed, watched him humbly pass out t shirts at camp last year and work with the QBs, really spent time with my son during one of the drills, but he is gonna be an interesting case study for a pro style QB in a dual threat offense. Rahne is gonna earn every penny this year.
 
I think best for the team is a healthy Tommy Stevens starting in 2019. If Franklin wasn't going to start him this year he shouldn't have convinced him to come back as insurance just so we could go 9-4 last year.
It isn't even Monday morning. How can you tell him he's the starter with all the practice time he's missed? And, I'm pretty sure CJF didn't know a year ago that we'd be 9-4 in 2018.
 
It was just a matter of time. WHEN Stevens gets hurt Clifford was going to be the starter from then on.
 
Tommy. Just. Can’t. Stay. Healthy.
I feel bad for him. He’s been a real team guy. He deserves his shot. It is unfortunate.
So in his stead let's put in the guy who's had shoulder surgery and has relatively little running behind a so-so line. He does throw a nice deep ball, but I'll be holding my breath every time he gets sacked or pressured.
 
I think Clifford might prove to be better than both of them in the end, but I still think Tommy is the best bet for this fall. I hope he stays.

IMO Tommy is far and away the best choice right now. the current offense requires a QB who can put up good rushing yards if needed. Tommy has shown that capability on many occasions - including last year's Iowa game and the UMich game when Harbaugh wanted that shutout bad. I think you pick the person who allows you the best chance to win now. no time like the present. hope he decides to stay. BTW - i finally got to see the BW game replay, and was not blown away by any QB - not even sure who would win the QB spot it Tommy goes.
 
Clifford has the best arm of the 3. That should be known by every fan at this point.
Sacca has a great arm but never made a needed pass to win a close game. Thought Tinny’s Decisions and reads in the rpo were not good. Wanted to win ever play with his own feet.
 
Rather see a pure passer than a pure runner at QB. Didn’t see the Clemson QB run that many designed runs last year. Important games are won via the pass.

normally that is true, BUT the current OFFENSE is based on a QB who is a major run threat. notice any game where Trace was less than 100% we had big problems. even with SB here we needed TM legs in many games.
 
I think best for the team is a healthy Tommy Stevens starting in 2019. If Franklin wasn't going to start him this year he shouldn't have convinced him to come back as insurance just so we could go 9-4 last year.

What if Franklin will start him if he is healthy and ready to play, but at this point in time, 4/17/19, he is not healthy and not ready to play?
 
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normally that is true, BUT the current OFFENSE is based on a QB who is a major run threat. notice any game where Trace was less than 100% we had big problems. even with SB here we needed TM legs in many games.
Take it up with the coaching staff.
If he thought he was going to start, don't you think he would have stayed?
 
Have you been reading some of the crazy things being posted in this thread? Haha. Didn’t you hear James isn’t loyal? So it’s easy to see that Clifford must be a statue.
Where does this crazy idea that Clifford is a statue come from? The kid is an excellent athlete. He’s more than capable of tucking the ball and running.
 
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He did have some but point taken (that said, he looked atrocious against Pitt and Michigan early on...can’t count on those planets aligning too often)

He looked atrocious against Pitt in his second game ever? He was an inch or dropped pass, however you see fit to phrase it, away from winning that game. Or if JoMo played for a tie maybe we win.
Think maybe the UM game might have been a tad closer if we didn’t have our tenth string walking on defense? I don’t think Trace wins this game, but have looked a lot better.
 
Just curious exactly when you thought Stevens should have played.
You certainly made a strident point that you felt he should have been - and that there were bountiful opportunities that were bypassed.

My guess was that you had no idea WTH you were talking about :eek: , but I figured I would ask to see if you did.
Apparently, my instinct was correct :)


But, yeah, I can live with that. :rolleyes:

Oh come on now sir.

Let's be reasonable.

I could have named several games but again, it was generalized comments over time.

You just chose to take issue with it.

My turn sir: Name all the people on the Titanic who played in the band as the ship sank!

:)
 
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