So what? Let them have some fun and some enthusiasm. Good for them and good that there is another program that wants to be a top 5 - 10 program and is pitting money into it to make it happen.
Suriano still out?
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Always is a long time.
Do not doubt the ability of Rutgers to make big strides if they get everything in place. Gooddale has the job because he had the job when Rutgers joined the Bigs. It is a bad look to fire the guy right away. If he does not produce, I can see him getting canned.
All this talk about being a top 5 team and not producing, may just be the last straw. Missouri did the same thing with Wes Roper years ago. He was the coach for a long time when the program was not fully funded. They fully funded it and gave him some time to make some strides. After a few years he got fired and Brian Smith took over and the rest is history. I can see Gooddale with a similar story in the her future. JMHO
First off, theres not many NJ D1 colleges that have ever been top shelf.. Rutgers has never challenged in any major sport since their 1976 final 4 basketball team.. Seton Hall did have a couple basketball teams too. Thats it,
Rutgers could pick the bones clean for athletes in NJ but theyve never made the commitment to sports.. Now there seems to be a commitment from the school but there needs a corresponding commitment to hire top coaches to bring in recruits
Goodale has lured a few in state kids like Winston, who probably sacrificed his college career joining with Goodale... Hes brought in several good NJ wrestlers, as he should be expected to. This year Glory is going to Princeton, Kinner to tOSU & OMalley to Drexel... et al.. Who's coming in from outside NJ thats high caliber like PSU, tOSU, Iowa teams?
If Donny or Borroughs took over, it'd make a big difference but Goodale likes his boss chair too much
Intriguing as that may be, he's also at least 2 years away from retiring, probably more. If that's something he would want. And if Rutgers would wait until he's available and ready, or even have the foresight to think of him.
Their only significant nonresident recruits are Robinson (at Blair, from VA) and Aguilar (CA).
For being in a neighboring state, their PA efforts have been pathetic at best. Zero PA recruits again this year. To the best of my knowledge, the best PA wrestler they've had in recent memory (ever?) was Dippery before he transferred to Rider.
One would think they could fall down and land into more PA recruits than that. Rider has -- 2 PA state finalists (Fidelibus, Laird) and a potential 2018 champ (Wright).
I think even Rutgers would have the foresight to have a multi world and Olympic champ from their own state on a short list of possible coaches. If not, well there's bigger problems.
They will look for their next coach where they found their next potential national champ...PSU. Frank is a Jersey guy, has been a coach at RU and experience in multiple successful college rooms, as well as Olympic and international success. I would not be surprised at all to see him back there as a head coach.
Biggest problem Rutgers has is that it's in NJ. Just kidding, but it's probably not helping.
Perhaps they can try and convince everyone that they're really in NY...like the NY Giants.
Frank is exactly who they should hire. And by the time he's done at VT, he will have significant recruiting connections in PA and OH.
"Should" being the key word -- how many times can it possibly be used about Rutgers? Also, Pitt "should" have hired Santoro, then "should" have hired Flynn, and then "should" have hired a couple other guys before they got lucky with Gavin. Programs like that are chicken and egg discussions, who they are because who they hire, and who they hire because who they are.
...Goodale was a successful high school coach in NJ but that doesn't always mean one will be equally successful as a college coach where the job entails recruiting, organization, alumni relations, fund raising, etc., etc., ...
...sorta like when Notre Dame hired Moeller High School coach Gerry Faust to revive their football program in the 80's... didn't work out as they had expected ...
...sorta like when Notre Dame hired Moeller High School coach Gerry Faust to revive their football program in the 80's... didn't work out as they had expected ...
Didn’t realize Goodale’s tenure at RU mirrors Dresser’s time at VT with the exception of 1 year. Provides an interesting basis for comparison of their respective production at NCAAs, and Dresser’s apparent ability to do more with less on the talent pool front. Given that Rutgers just squeaked out a winning season this year, makes you wonder how much longer RU will be patient with Goodale.
Year / Dresser Result / Goodale Result
2017 / 6th / 19th
2016 / 4th / 15th
2015 / 10th / 31st
2014 / 8th / 34th
2013 / 10th / 35th
2012 / 11th / 45th
2011 / 33rd / 27th
2010 / 24th / 32nd
2009 / 39th / 48th
2008 / no pts / no pts
2007 / 60th / no pts
2006 / 29th / n/a
Unless they changed the eligibility criteria, I don't see how he can get a 6th year after redshirting and wrestling in 3 NCAAs.
these stats correct? Hard to be perennial top 10 if you never sniffed the actual top 10.
Just going by what I read.
Just going by what I read.
Burroughs would have his pick of open jobs and there are jobs far better than Rutgers.
After reading all these comments about Goodale and who would be a good replacement.
Would Jeff Buxton ever consider the job? He certainly knows the whole Northeast for recruiting purposes and might be one the better mat instructors that a team could hire.
Would Jeff Buxton ever consider the job? He certainly knows the whole Northeast for recruiting purposes and might be one the better mat instructors that a team could hire.
True and also some jobs that are not open too. That is what happened with Cael at Iowa State, they were afraid of Ohio State hiring him and dumped Bobby Douglas to hire Cael.
the thought of Cael being the coach at tOSU just made me vomit ....
I guess you just cant believe everything you read on the internet....or for that matter hear in an interview
How bout Tom Ryan about Penn State, that is full blown stomach virus, vomit and diarrhea.
For a second I thought you were trying to steer us back to the original purpose of this thread.
Where in the world is Carman SanDiego? Dirty Jerzy!
Seriously.....if you want a quick how did we get to a 7 page thread but condensed to a couple tweets and paragraphs click on the flo link. nothing new, just a rehash of how we got here.
https://www.flowrestling.org/articles/6125198-where-in-the-world-is-nicky-suriano
Seriously.....if you want a quick how did we get to a 7 page thread but condensed to a couple tweets and paragraphs click on the flo link. nothing new, just a rehash of how we got here.
https://www.flowrestling.org/articles/6125198-where-in-the-world-is-nicky-suriano
According to Flo article, 'however we have yet to hear an official word on the topic from Rutgers.'
I'd expect NJ.COM to crush Rutgers and Goodale for not being more forthcoming and available to discuss this.
History shows that when NJ.com gets around to writing an article on Suriano whatever the story, somehow it is Cael's and Penn State's fault.
Donny doesn't want the responsibilities the HC has to deal with. Talking with adminstration, etc. He just wants to coach wrestling. That is what I was told when I mentioned to my friend (RU Wrestler from 04-08, season ticket holder) that we need a better coach to take us to the next level.
How about talking about former National Champs McCoy and Goldman and their Winless, No fans B1G Programs.
Last I looked, they were not tampering with other team's wrestlers. We would rather talk about the lowlifes of the conference.
A bunch of Division 1 Programs are going to get better landing Pennsylvania top recruits..Penn State starts 3 in State guys.
Just read the flo article. Am I to understand they pulled 2 different true freshman shirts in consecutive duels. I had heard one but did not know 2 were pulled. Are these 2 just depth/room guys or potential future starters?
Disclaimer.....I am not sure how one defines “depth/room guys” but Rutgers should define it differently than Penn State, Iowa or tOSU do. Despite the fact they are a perennial top 5 or 10 team.
Keener, Retherford, Nolf, Joseph, and McCutchen until Injured. Not sure where you are going with this statement.
It means the only PA guy they've landed in 5+ years was Tyson Dippery, and virtually every other program east of the Rockies recruits PA, even Sparty got a PA state champ, but now they're ready.
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