The one thing about Cliff is that he seems to play some of his best football in the biggest games.
Time for a QB change?
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Terrible analysis because Saban is not a coach who takes chances. Anyways I really don't think this is a big deal. You go to Michigan and you either pull an upset or you lose. You don't throw a true freshman in now. If you lose 3 games in a row? Yes. If not, no.
If there is one thing I am sure of in this world, it's that you have no idea what Nick Saban would do about any football situation, let alone the hypothetical one you mention, but you go on with yourself.
What would Bear Bryant or Joe Paterno do, while you're at it? Asking for a friend.
You don't start a kid because of 5 stars. You know who else had 5 stars? Christian Hackenberg. Know who else had 5 stars? Anthony Morelli.
Right now Ty Thompson is riding the Oregon Duck bench for the 2nd straight season. Behind Bo Nix. 5 stars and no snaps.
This reminds me so much of Hackenbergs last year when he was absolutely horrendous but JF refused to put in McSorely. I dont care if Hack was a 2nd round draft pick. Us fans who watched every play could tell he was done. Hackenberg literally could not be any worse but he never gave McSorely a chance. We all saw what McSorely could do. Just in the Georgia game alone he almost pulled a miracle comeback when Hack got hurt. The difference here is that Allar actually has gotten some action and we already can see he's a stud.
Isn't it strange how "we" can always see what coaches can't?
Benching Clifford would put his remote chance at an NFL free agent contract in jeopardy. Then if Allar performs poorly there would be dissent among the players.
I think the only way Allar plays vs Michigan is if Clifford struggles and takes a big hit. That would give Franklin a legitimate excuse to give allar a shot.
Ah, the old “the backup QB is always better”….so if Allar throws a pick six, do we go with Veilleux?
Who needs to watch hours and hours of film, be present at every practice, and do this for a living….all it takes is sitting on your couch and watching three hours a week.
Highly unlikely as JF will want to try to get to a top bowl e.g. Orange and he will ride Cliff through the weak end of the schedule.
Really? What I see is a very big kid who is a pure drop back quarterback with a big arm. I have no idea about how good a quarterback he is.
Couple things: Saban would have started Allar but he would have done so week 1 not leading into the Michigan game. Hackenberg absolutely would have been the QB over McSorley if Saban was in charge as McSorley wouldn't have even been someone he'd consider recruiting as a QB. I don't think it's about loyalty as much as it is about experience.
PSU will lose with Clifford. That’s a fact. No reason not to develop young talent.
He should have been pulled yesterday or at least given Allan a shot for a few series.
Good coach’s make tough decisions. Saban replaced a a NC winning QB. Clifford has done nothing but keep this offense mediocre. Franklin is guilty of the same.
Teams very rarely pull a QB when they're winning though--even if that QB is struggling. At no point in yesterday's game did I think Clifford was going to lose it for us. And with the young backs fumbling the ball away the last thing any coach was going to do was put in a true freshman QB with the lead. Had we been losing 10-0 or something then yeah.
And Saban made the move because Tua had consistently out performed Hurts in practice.
But I get it.....posters here know more and want to win more than the coaches. LOL
Even when they don't.....they invoke the name of successful coaches in a feeble attempt to garner credibility.
How long after Allar is handed the keys until the same coaching legends want another qb?
Franklin has not done a good job at evaluating qbs. He has failed when it comes to that.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion. Franklin is the only one of us that has a 10 year 70 million dollar contract to put his "opinions" into action. Is that a coincidence?
The NNNNNCAC criticizes CJF relentlessly.....and he smiles.
Anyone who slams CJF on the QB issue is shitting on Yurich as well. I guess they all suck.
To be fair, Jimbo Fisher got 95M and he should be criticized. Just because the person in charge decides to pay a coach doesn't mean they're worth that money or above criticism. If anything, the more they're paid the more criticism they're going to get when they aren't contending for titles.
Clifford is the reason he kept running the ball. We weren’t in danger of losing because NW is garbage and the D won the game.
Until Franklin proves he can beat a high quality team, there is no defending him with any substance. Any decent coach would be 5 and 0 at this point in the season. Most would have won more convincingly.
No, he wasn't. We were committed to the run because of the weather and the belief Northwestern couldn't produce points.
You're correct--we won because NW is garbage and the D played how they should have but that was the plan.
Please read carefully.....everyone is entitled to an opinion......only 1 opinion matters.
Is there a good reason why Allar got ZERO playing time yesterday?
Help me out, because I can't come up with a good explanation.
Help me out, because I can't come up with a good explanation.
I honestly thought Franklin was going to follow more of the Bryant/Lawrence blue print. Dabo pretty much let them each play half the game, for the first 4 games. He made a gutsy decision, by benching a 16-2 Bryant. James is the boss for a reason, I trust what he’s doing. Don’t always have to agree, but we have no idea what it’s like to run a power 5 program.
Nailed it. Clifford is trying to make explosive play with pass over feet. Against UM, I fully expect that he will make runs especially if pressure comes. You have to hope that MY saving a bag of tricks for big games.
I’m staying out of this debate. But Saban pulled a ‘veteran’ Hurts for a freshman Tagavolia in a dog-gone national championship game?
Edit: didn’t see this discussed above when I posted. Carry on.
Keep in mind that it's Dipstick's opinion that ASWP could win the b1g West - he's doubled down on this opinion even after ASWP's embarrassing loss yesterday to a team that came in 1-3, was a 21.5 point underdog.... and ASWP lost @HOME! So this is the type of moronic opinion you're dealing with, so you might want to consider that before further engagement.
I have one comment and that is "this post does not deserve comment"
I didn't say MY opinion matters, did I?
I honestly don't even think you have a point here. I also don't want to go to Allar
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