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TOSU v ILL

Glad I had to step out and missed that, can't stand to watch the clown type stuff, I think it disrespects your opponent and the sport. Seems to me that the "act like you've been there" guys are for the most part, higher on the podium when it counts. No problem with a guy that has a big win and shows emotion, but some of these guys are over the top IMO.

Showmanship might help grow the sport.
 
From a fans perspective, showmanship is great. From a team perspective, perhaps not so much. Giving the other team further motivation to want to beat you can make a difference in a match.
 

Not "Bingo". Maybe in professional sports where the athletes are paid to entertain, but that isn't the circumstance in college wrestling. Fan entertainment isn't (nor should it be) the primary objective for a student athlete. Generating revenue for the institution isn't (nor should it be) the primary objective for a student athlete. That's why student athletes are not paid (legally) for their participation (beyond scholarship) in collegiate athletics.

Sportsmanship should still count for something. And that opinion has absolutely nothing to do with my age (which BTW is nowhere near fogie-land). Felt that way just as much now as I did when I was 18. Amusing you and others through bad behavior should not be an objective for growing the sport. The sport doesn't need that kind of growth.
 
Not "Bingo". Maybe in professional sports where the athletes are paid to entertain, but that isn't the circumstance in college wrestling. Fan entertainment isn't (nor should it be) the primary objective for a student athlete. Generating revenue for the institution isn't (nor should it be) the primary objective for a student athlete. That's why student athletes are not paid (legally) for their participation (beyond scholarship) in collegiate athletics.

Sportsmanship should still count for something. And that opinion has absolutely nothing to do with my age (which BTW is nowhere near fogie-land). Felt that way just as much now as I did when I was 18. Amusing you and others through bad behavior should not be an objective for growing the sport. The sport doesn't need that kind of growth.

At least when wrestling dies, it will be a dignified death.
 
"Hey, you guys remember wrestling?"

"Yeah! You mean Brazilian ju-jit-su?"

"No, like when it was an NCAA sport."

"...huh?"
 
you can get fired up, even make a few comments and have class. Its the way one acts in victory and defeat that helps portrays class. Without class, you are simply a jerk.
I am confused. If without class I would think simply classless. If without class and a personality that was crass I would think classless jerk.
 
Just my take on it. A bunch of adults sitting on a message board shit talking about a student athlete who we do not know, have never had any personal contact - well I am uncertain that particular behavior isn't a bit under the better judgment line itself.

As a whole the examples of competing wrestlers showing everyday examples of sportsmanship and respect so far outnumber the few examples of not so respectful - better to take pride in the life lessons our sport teaches than fixate on any singular lapses that generally are nothing but teaching moments.

Just saying.
 
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