Poor Drew Hildebrandt. I’m sure he is constantly wondering when he is going to get pushed out of his own thread by the WildTurk thread. Probably makes it hard to focus on just training to compete for the year. 
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I'm sorry but that's absolutely false. Say what you want about the Brands but favoriting Terry's son in lieu of a guy who would score more team points is not something he would do. Even if it wouldn't make a team race difference, that's not something they would do. Nelson went last year because Abe was injured.
the early tea leaves say assad right now. he's the guy featured on all of their promotional material where they have the 10 starters.
I actually talked to a few Iowa fans about that. That's actually not because he's the starter already. That'll be decided after Midlands likely. The reason is because he's a previous AA (I know 2020 was just paper AAs but both Assad and Murin are technically AAs) Anyways, in Hawkeye tradition, previous AAs are photographed for the posters they hand out at Carver. That being said, Assad makes the most sense as he is a full sized 184 and looked good as a freshman.
The tea leaves say that, but my sources say Nelson is biting Assad in the room.
No! You're supposed to spitball and hypothesize, not conduct actual research. What kind of message board do you think this is?
Chewing him up and spitting him out!The tea leaves say that, but my sources say Nelson is biting Assad in the room.
The reason Assad and Murin are in the photo is because TnT felt bad for them and their inevitable benching. Turk and Brands are their 149 and 184 this year.
Murin should transfer to PSU second semester. We could redshirt both Van Ness and Bartlett, we could train up Murin to beat Turk at Nationals and Murin can be part of the reason we upset Iowa for the championship. Oh and most importantly, johnstownsteel could troll the hell out Iowa fans because of it all. Lmao.
Is this how you spitball @El-Jefe?
Sorry, but no way Matt Lee moves down from 165 to 157. Have you seen him? He would have to cut off one arm to make that weight. Plus, I doubt that he wants to fight his brother for the weight.
Not sure if he could get down or not, but just because his brother is that weight would not be a problem. Any wrestler with an opportunity to start for a National Championship contender goes after it hard..... and would expect the same from their sibling - may the best man win.
I agree with you about the weight issue. I think it would be a really tough cut. I see him frequently, and he is not only taller than Joe, but also thicker.
I also agree about some wrestlers being willing to take on a sibling to be on a championship team. But, I’m not sure it plays out in that particular family.
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Never had the opportunity to start for a National Championship contender but did wrestle my twin brother in a finals match at a local youth tourney once. Afterward we agree to never wrestle each other outside of the room again. I won the match but it felt like I lost. I actually took it harder than any match I ever lost to be honest with you.
Well if the Lees were both competing for 157 (again, not my contention - someone elses), they wouldn't be wrestling each other outside the room.
I meant as workout partners. Look I’m not saying there aren’t kids out there nation wide that’s having to compete against their siblings. I’m just saying there are some out there that won’t do it. I rarely did any weight cutting when I wrestled. I never would compete for a starting spot against him nor would I ever wrestle him again in a tourney or match setting. I always bumped up a weight considering I was a little better than him. I felt I would be more competive than he would be moving up a weight. That and my reward for being a cool brother like that was that I could eat..lol
The Moore brothers used to occasionally wrestle each other in youth tournaments. All kind of stories about one stepping on the other walking back to the middle, one cranking on the other in a manner to make DeSanto and Micic look like play wrestling. Good times.
lol. That’s great! I hated having to wrestle him but my mother, God bless her, she hated having to see us wrestle each other. That poor woman drug us everywhere to tournaments and matches, became a huge fan of the sport but that about killed her so we just agreed not to do it anymore.
That may be true locally and regionally at the elementary and HS level, but if siblings go to different programs and wind up starting at the same weight - there is just no way they're going to refuse to wrestle in a dual, mid-season tournament, conference tournament or NCAA Tournament (nor are they going to be permitted by a college coaching staff to just change the weight their team needs them at, just so they're at a different weight than their sibling who wrestles for a different team....). I'm just saying that's reality and a condition of their scholarship.
Just one quick note here, and then I am done: the Lee brothers are not on different teams. You are now having an entirely different conversation.
Does anyone at all have some kind of estimate as to when we’ll hear about young Mr. Hildebrandt’s decision?
I don’t imagine anything will happen formally until January
How did she feel about you wrestling your uncles?
No way I beat my brother out for a spot on any team. Family is family and they will be there much longer than a few years on a team
Did he try to f with you and stand on top of the podium?
Your mom doesn't like tough wrestling
Well, in this case, if the poster is correct and he's going to take a run at 157, he'd need to beat TB for the starting position, not his brother - or are you saying he should refuse to compete simply because his brother is at that weight? I'm confused at this point.
I was just saying from a personal level I would never attempt to beat my brother out of a wrestling spot if the situation would have arose and that family is more important. In other words I don't think Matt and Joe would ever wrestle off for a weight class I don't see it
Not trying to answer for him, but I think what he said is pretty clear. Not sure why you are confused. And, clearly you do not understand how wrestle offs work in the room. Just because TB may be at the top of the list now doesn’t mean that Joe wouldn’t want to challenge for the position at a later date.
Still confused - let's assume OP's contention regarding ML is correct [i.e., his source for information is correct and staff wants ML to make a run at 157 starting position - i.e., they think he might be able to help the team at 157.], you're saying he shouldn't do it because his brother is also at the weight? (and I'm quite well aware of how wrestle-offs typically work.... and participated in them as a youth -- so yes, it would suggest that ML would likely need to compete against his brother before getting a shot at TB at the current time.). So again, you believe the poster is saying he should refuse to wrestle at the same weight as his brother and you feel this is a reasonable position?
It's not necessary to try and run through every possible scenario to prove them wrong. Just take what they said at face value and move on. From what I know of the Lee family (and it is not firsthand, but from those that know the family) what was said makes sense to me. There probably is an exception somewhere, but they don't need to answer everything in detail. You're scenarios are making a lot of assumptions. It's speculation and not worth taking further, IMO.
Thank you! Sometimes it’s good to be reminded of the basics!
