VJ seeded third at Big 10s?

[PSUcup1]

Which is why no one wants to wrestle in the early November all-star match any longer.

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FLO click bait on 65 seeds??

I guess with PSU smoking tOSU so thoroughly, clicks were down this week. Gotta stir the pot to please the advertisers.

they could always do another Suriano interview ....

 

[ss7]

they could always do another Suriano interview ....

Correction:

They could always rerun the one Suriano interview they have.

 

[mvattivo]

I don't think so. In my opinion Marinelli is really wrestling at a very high level this year. I would put him and VJ as a pick'em right now. It would really surprise me if it is not them in the finals of B10 and NCAA.

I'd have V.J. at -0.5 for BIG's and -1.5 at Nationals. I feel he will go down as an under-appreciated 4-timer. He might not be the flashiest wrestler, but, he is extremely tough to score on, and knows how to get his hand raised, especially under the bright lights.

 

[BullPit]

I don't think so. In my opinion Marinelli is really wrestling at a very high level this year. I would put him and VJ as a pick'em right now. It would really surprise me if it is not them in the finals of B10 and NCAA.

I agree about Bull, but you can't seed him over VJ until someone beats VJ.

 

[BullPit]

I would put Marinelli as the 1 if he beats Wick but have Cenzo as the 2. Marinelli would have better wins than Cenzo and then Cenzo and Wick would actually wrestle.

Right better wins than a 2x Nat. Champ, and what place did Bull get last year? No doubt Bull is wrestling lights out and he'll spank Wick instead of ducking him. Bull VJ match gonna be fun to watch.

 

[diggerpup]

The same people who want to discount VJ’s 2x NCAA titles have zero problem overlooking The Bull’s six (6) losses last March.

 

[WiscoWrastler]

Right better wins than a 2x Nat. Champ, and what place did Bull get last year? No doubt Bull is wrestling lights out and he'll spank Wick instead of ducking him. Bull VJ match gonna be fun to watch.

Seeding has to do with what they’ve done this year.

Right better wins than a 2x Nat. Champ, and what place did Bull get last year? No doubt Bull is wrestling lights out and he'll spank Wick instead of ducking him. Bull VJ match gonna be fun to watch.

Vincenzo’s best conference wins OT vs Massa and 2-0 over White and missed Wisconsin dual.
Marinelli beat Wick and White 3-0. If Marinelli beats Wick again he deserves the 1 seed. He will have 3 better wins than Vincenzo.

 

[SFNit]

I don't think so. In my opinion Marinelli is really wrestling at a very high level this year. I would put him and VJ as a pick'em right now. It would really surprise me if it is not them in the finals of B10 and NCAA.

I agree, if they are the two best in the B1G (and I believe they are) and they are seeded 1 and 2, they'll meet in the finals of the B1Gs and that will sort out their seeding for the NCAAs. As long as neither is seeded 3rd , it really shouldn't matter.

 

[Crusher1950]

How do people on this board come up with stupid bullshit like this? He is the defending 2 time National champ. Idiots!!!

 

[dunkej01]

The same people who want to discount VJ’s 2x NCAA titles have zero problem overlooking The Bull’s six (6) losses last March.

ooooooohhhhhh snap!

 

[dunkej01]

How do people on this board come up with stupid bullshit like this? He is the defending 2 time National champ. Idiots!!!

welcome to the interwebs. Learn to wipe your feet, when you enter. May your stay be a pleasurable one.

 

[SRATH]

Just remember, Joseph twice beat the guy that beat Nolf. Seed him where ever......he is money.

 

[pish69]

Seeding has to do with what they’ve done this year.

Vincenzo’s best conference wins OT vs Massa and 2-0 over White and missed Wisconsin dual.
Marinelli beat Wick and White 3-0. If Marinelli beats Wick again he deserves the 1 seed. He will have 3 better wins than Vincenzo.

The coaches seed the conferences. They use common sense along with the results. If Cenzo and Bull go undefeated, how much would you like to bet, Cenzo is 1 seed? $50? $100?

Cenzo has also beaten #4,5,6,7, 15 and was in tourney with number 11 but number 11 didn't make it to him.

2 time national champ and undefeated this year

So when the coaches sit around the table, I highly doubt they hit him for being sick..that being said, if you are confident, let's bet

 

[jtothemfp]

Flo's biggest problem is they wear so many hats and their staff switches which ones they're wearing so frequently. It makes a problem for us as flo consumers as well, like we see here in all the different reax to them in this thread--and their varying intensities.

Here, Nomad Lobdell is wearing a blogger hat, and he's just blogging. He took a stab at solving a problem, made a fair case, and he wrote it well.

As such, it's pretty benign.

Except for, well, it's Flo. And their long messy history wearing a bunch of their other hats makes it difficult to give them the benefit of the doubt. Which is what else I see here, in some of these visceral reactions.

 

[pish69]

Well said Cenzo!

 

[86PSUPaul]

Well said Cenzo!

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Except after this he supposedly deleted his account. That makes me sad...

And he is back, happy again!!

 

[TangSoo]

Seeding has to do with what they’ve done this year.

Vincenzo’s best conference wins OT vs Massa and 2-0 over White and missed Wisconsin dual.
Marinelli beat Wick and White 3-0. If Marinelli beats Wick again he deserves the 1 seed. He will have 3 better wins than Vincenzo.

I'm not understanding your math there. Unless you're counting 3-0 as a better win than 2-0? Which, technically it is, but kind of splitting hairs.

 

[Hotshoe]

not true. there is a very logical case for Cenzo to be #3.

same as last year when i bitched and moaned that IMar should be #2 or #3.

Wrong. 2 time National Champion, undefeated this year. 3rd seed? Get real. When the hell are you guys gonna give Cenzo his due?

 

[Hotshoe]

The same people who want to discount VJ’s 2x NCAA titles have zero problem overlooking The Bull’s six (6) losses last March.

Yes, but you're forgetting Cael can't coach and Tom can. Remember?

 

[El-Jefe]

not true. there is a very logical case for Cenzo to be #3.

same as last year when i bitched and moaned that IMar should be #2 or #3.

I don't disagree that the logic has merits.

However last year the B10 seeding committee disagreed. What changed to make anyone think it would get traction this year?

 

[pish69]

I'm not understanding your math there. Unless you're counting 3-0 as a better win than 2-0? Which, technically it is, but kind of splitting hairs.

And Cenzo majored Shields and Bull won 4-1..All of this is nonsense. You have an undefeated 2 time national champ that got sick one weekend and people trying to make a case for 2 or 3?? Guess they have to write about something in between weekends..

 

[WiscoWrastler]

I'm not understanding your math there. Unless you're counting 3-0 as a better win than 2-0? Which, technically it is, but kind of splitting hairs.

Beating Evan Wick 2x would be better than any win Cenzo has.

 

[Hartzie]

Beating Evan Wick 2x would be better than any win Cenzo has.

Two national titles is better than anything Bull has.

 

[Cali_Nittany]

not true. there is a very logical case for Cenzo to be #3.

same as last year when i bitched and moaned that IMar should be #2 or #3.

Who won the Big Ten tourney at 165 last year and where did the #2 seed place? Asking for a friend.

 

[STAND with PRIDE]

Cenzo was champ last year, doesnt switch weights, and is obvious choice for unanimous pre-season #1 ranking. No brainer, right?? Has a pre-season #1 wrestler EVER lost his #1 ranking without losing, or suffering season ending injury?? Has this EVER happened, I sure cant recall it.

 

[dsites52]

We know what going off social media means...
... Cenzo’s gonna take five heads! Woo Hoo!

But one of them is Jason’s.....

 

[lobo lion]

0.0

Agree.

 

[lobo lion]

Hey, menstruation jokes are not funny, period.

Well played!

 

[Brian LB-U]

Beating Evan Wick 2x would be better than any win Cenzo has.

Wick is tough but honestly, he was kind of lucky to get by Marsteller last March. He'll get his shot at Cenzo at some point. When it happens, I would bet a good chunk of change on Cenzo taking him out. Until then, Cenzo is king of the hill.

 

[aalion]

His more methodical approach to winning probably means that, outside this Board, he’ll never get the respect he deserves until he’s a 4 time champ.

IMO his response suggests through his awareness that he’s already using that post to raise his level of focus for pursuing the third of his quest for 4 titles.

Not that he needs it, but many thanks for poking the bear again, to all who continue to fail to appreciate what they are seeing with their own eyes.

Cenzo being “methodical”? He has one of the most spectacular wins in NCAA history.... while leading. Agree he ain’t takedown a second Nolf, but there are about 95% more guys who are more methodical ...

 

[WiscoWrastler]

Wick is tough but honestly, he was kind of lucky to get by Marsteller last March. He'll get his shot at Cenzo at some point. When it happens, I would bet a good chunk of change on Cenzo taking him out. Until then, Cenzo is king of the hill.

Lucky? I don’t think slapping a guy in a cradle and pinning him is lucky. If so man....Bo got lucky against Kollin Moore. Lol

 

[Brian LB-U]

Lucky? I don’t think slapping a guy in a cradle and pinning him is lucky. If so man....Bo got lucky against Kollin Moore. Lol

Lucky in they sense he was losing when he cradled him. At least that's how I remember it.

 

[dunkej01]

I don't disagree that the logic has merits.

However last year the B10 seeding committee disagreed. What changed to make anyone think it would get traction this year?

The wrestling worlds non-journalists united in a marvel universe kind of way to launch multiple social media tirades followed by bigly videocast tantrums....

or another way of looking at it.....

nothing changed

 

[golfnit85]

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Maybe OT but has anyone ever talked to Wrestling Nomad about the horrible side effects of drug use?

 

[jschrantz]

Wick is tough but honestly, he was kind of lucky to get by Marsteller last March. He'll get his shot at Cenzo at some point. When it happens, I would bet a good chunk of change on Cenzo taking him out. Until then, Cenzo is king of the hill.

Richie Lewis doesn’t think Wick is that good

 

[smalls103]

jesus H.

don't go full hawkeye report, guys.

no one hates you. no one is diminishing Cenzo.

the basis of my argument last year was the same as nomad's this year - better wins THIS season.

not last season. not career. not previous ncaa placements.

if you don't see a legit argument there, that's a you problem. but saying it's click bait or saying it's out of bias or something sinister, is simply lazy and uninformed.

please don't get to the point where everything said about psu that doesn't exalt you to the moon is met with criticism. - like somewhere else i know of.

call it silly, call it stupid. but no one at flo is trying to cut y'all down. that's silly talk.

 

[diggerpup]

Who got the key to NLWC safe ?

Someone forgot to give Willie his envelope this week.

 

[Hartzie]

Smalls. Please. It’s no more silly than an argument that says a two time defending national champion, THAT IS UNDEFEATED, is not the top seed.

 

[Cali_Nittany]

jesus H.

don't go full hawkeye report, guys.

no one hates you. no one is diminishing Cenzo.

the basis of my argument last year was the same as nomad's this year - better wins THIS season.

not last season. not career. not previous ncaa placements.

if you don't see a legit argument there, that's a you problem. but saying it's click bait or saying it's out of bias or something sinister, is simply lazy and uninformed.

please don't get to the point where everything said about psu that doesn't exalt you to the moon is met with criticism. - like somewhere else i know of.

call it silly, call it stupid. but no one at flo is trying to cut y'all down. that's silly talk.

I'm fine with calling your opinion silly and leaving it at that. I don't want to offend our best recruiter too badly.

 

[smalls103]

Hartzie - you do realize that prior seasons are like the last criteria.

i grant you that they went against legacy last year, and they probably will this year.

but i contend that the guy with the best wins THIS YEAR should be the higher seed.

there's nothing silly about that. and frankly, would solve/help a lot of problems.