If Bull tries to duck Wick high he's going to end up on his back. The whole point of the duck is go low!
VJ seeded third at Big 10s?
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If Bull tries to duck Wick high he's going to end up on his back. The whole point of the duck is go low!
I love that Wille thinks people here are "triggered" when he's on a message board arguing with people who complain about somebody at the company he works for.
The guy who rushes to a message board to argue on behalf of a co-worker calls other people triggered.
If you own a mirror you should try using it. The only person more triggered than HR here is you.
Click-bait
(On the Internet) content whose main purpose is to attract attention and encourage visitors to click on a link to a particular web page.
Not very complicated.
That is an overbroad (and therefore inadequate) definition because it can also be applied as a reasonable definition for “news article” for the entire private news industry.
If Flo is writing and posting articles that people don't want to click on, they are doing something wrong.
The article was written to get clicks, that is the point of having a website. I understand Nomad's point,but I do not agree with it. Cenzo has wrestled 2 of the top 5 and won. Marinelli as of now has wrestled 2 of the top 5 and won. Wick has not won all of his matches against the top 5, so to me he isn't even in contention for number 1 seed at this point. Marinelli and Cenzo are both undefeated and beat 2 of the top 5. In this event, the tie goes to the returning (2x) Champion verse the guy who placed 6th last year. Wick gets the 3 seed because he lost to Marinelli. Heck, the Bull had as many losses last March as Cenzo has had in 3 years of competition...and if Wick beats Marinelli then the committee can decide who is 2 and who is 3 between them.
Oh no! Lemonpie is not allowed to share his sonnet, “Ode to the Biceps of Cassar”!
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Yeah, somebody busted the chops of Nomad in jest about looking like a Star Wars conventioneer, but seriously, talking about Pyle’s hometown [is] ignorant. I really agree with Symmetry here ...
i was responding to you. i agree with dogwelder that your subsequent definition of clickbait is too broad. i also agree with ss7 that "hot take" is probably the most appropriate word to describe the article.
Yeah, somebody busted the chops of Nomad in jest about looking like a Star Wars conventioneer, but seriously, talking about Pyle’s hometown [is] ignorant. I really agree with Symmetry here ...
That was me Dog and if Smalls Is that hurt about me talking about his peer and Star Wars , maybe he isn’t from Easton,perhaps he’s from Wilson, PA?
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Too broad? Click bait has some other function than to generate web traffic?
The point was Willie taking exception to the term "click-bait" as though that is beneath Flo. The title was written with the sole purpose of attracting readers, ie click-bait.
The definition might be a basic definition, but that does not make it inaccurate.
we're saying there are other things that attract readers other than click bait, such as legitimate discussion. here's an analogy.
person 1: that's a pig
person 2: that's not a pig, it's a cow
person 1: of course it's a pig. under definition of pig it says hooved animal
person 2: there are other animals that have hooves
person 1: nope, it has hooves, it's a pig
lol. a lot of you ARE triggered. the evidence is this 6-page thread in which a vast majority of the posts don't even debate the merits of the article, but go straight to ulterior motives.
i've been around wrestling message boards for decades. that's the clearest sign of triggered thread.
as far asa 'rushing here to defend'. nah.
i know you're not new around here...i see your horrible takes and misinformed posts often. as such, you i'm on these boards every day.
the thread is so funny. you got people complaining about click bait and other people saying if Flo doesn't produce click bait they are failing.
carry on, boys.
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Holy sh!t ... if you're talking about my post, you seriously missed the point. I wasn't saying Flo is supposed to produce actual click bait. I expect Flo to produce articles and videos interesting enough to make me click on them. That doesn't make them click bait.
Can we start leaving our FRL questions here? I refuse to use Twitter until it gets a more masculine name.
twitter is where it's at!
kinda. sorta.
wrestling people on twitter are pretty solid. you should try it.
kinda. sorta.
wrestling people on twitter are pretty solid. you should try it.
Pretty sure I made that point. If the aren't trying to get more traffic they are doing a disservice to everybody who has a financial interest in Flo.
I know what you meant. My point was "click-bait" is not by definition a bad thing. If it attacks traffic that is good, if the quality behind the bait is good, then traffic will stay strong.
The reason for pointing out the click bait reference was Willie's effort to dismiss a few posters with a dismissive hand wave and grunt "we don't do click-bait". Of course they do. The article title was meant to simply draw people into the article, or get them to click on the article. No way around the fact the title "Why Cenzo Should Get the 3 Seed at B10s" was meant to generate clicks. A less baiting title "A Look at 165 seeds at B10s" works, but almost certainly is less enticing and effective.
And like clock work you're here responding. The fact that you are supposed to be a professional in your field and you spend your time on message boards insulting customers or even potential customers goes to both your character and your professionalism. I'm not all that surprised considering the fact that Flo deals in bait & switch tactics on their website along with near impossible cancelation policies and awful customer service. You are pretty much the perfect representation of Flo Sports as a company.
It's not even that I disagree with Nomad's argument or your argument that we should base the seeding on this years results because it's a valid argument. It's really just the fact that not only are you totally unprofessional, you're delusional in calling anybody on this board "triggered" when all I have to do is quote your post and you come running to insult me and argue on behalf of somebody else. I'm sure you'll be back to tell me how my posts are "horrible" and my takes are "wrong" but in the end I'm just a message board poster and you're a representative of a company and any manager or CEO worth his salt that saw how you interact on message boards with customers would clean out your office for you before you could quote my post and respond.
Calling someone from Easton a Wilson boy? Sounds like you want to get your butt kicked
you're one of the worst posters in wrestling message board history.
ridiculous combo of factual errors, poor perspectives, and reversing course.
what does you last post even say besides some vague shit about being 'unprofessional' ? unprofessional cause what? i dared to respond to stupidity.
get lost, clown shoes.
ridiculous combo of factual errors, poor perspectives, and reversing course.
what does you last post even say besides some vague shit about being 'unprofessional' ? unprofessional cause what? i dared to respond to stupidity.
get lost, clown shoes.
try using the reply button associated with the post you are replying to. It makes the threads easier to read for everybody.
Well it looks like I hit a nerve. You responded in record time. Look, don't blame your unprofessionalism on me. I didn't force you to insult people here in the name of your employer. You did that on your own. If I were you I'd pray that your boss doesn't frequent these boards. Or maybe your boss is perfectly fine with a representative of the company insulting people in their name, it certainly would not surprise me. There are no factual errors in my posts and if you want to burry your head in the sand because they sign your paycheck that's your prerogative. It's definitely an indictment of your character.
If you need to say or believe that I have very little wrestling knowledge to feel like you got a win here then I guess that's what you have to do.
To be perfectly honest with you I don't really want to get into a pissing match with you and I regret saying some of the things I said because I don't really want to be an angry message board poster and in all likelihood you're probably a good person. I am a Flo customer and I do take issue with some of the things they do but that's not really your fault and I probably took out some of my frustration with them on you personally and for that I apologize. I also don't take your insults personally because well, this is the internet after all.
wow. big of you. i thank u for admitting that your posts are knee jerk.
i would suggest a few things
1) try doing some puzzles like crosswords or suduko - up your cognitive processes
2) follow wrestling more - often it seems as if you assert things with authority while not being aware of recent developments
3) call my boss. see how that goes. i would try to get me at least on like a 2 week suspension
i would suggest a few things
1) try doing some puzzles like crosswords or suduko - up your cognitive processes
2) follow wrestling more - often it seems as if you assert things with authority while not being aware of recent developments
3) call my boss. see how that goes. i would try to get me at least on like a 2 week suspension
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1. I don't like Sudoku. Hard pass.
2. That's not possible.
3. I'm not really interested in calling your boss and from the sounds of it it doesn't sound like it would do any good.
I mean, the next time somebody offers you an apology it might be better to just accept it instead of offering a few insults along with accepting the apology, if that's even what this is. If we keep this up in a few years we might just be best friends.
After reading this thread I realized something. No matter what anyone tries to claim, HR and BWI are the same!
Reading from the book HR wrote long go....on page 69...... it says that when you have a great board, you have lots of different posters and you get diverse and sometimes combative exchanges. Its the price you pay for having the best board on the wrestling interwebs.
It took a long time to get here, but BWI is now one of the best places to talk college wrestling (with a PSU slant of course) on the interwebs.
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It's a small matter, but clickbait is a term of art and the articles Flo publishes aren't clickbait. The term implies some nexus of dishonesty between the headline and the content. A headline that entices you to click on it (and headlines are designed to do just that) isn't rendered clickbait because you disagree with it.
Flo produces a lot of content about Penn State because PSU wrestling has the largest fan base and because PSU wrestling is the most successful program; they're not being disingenuous, it's just supply and demand.
That said, it's a bit much when the Flo guys feign astonishment at the reactions they get from certain takes when they simultaneously can't agree on the proper seeding criteria for B1Gs themselves (and spend half the podcast screaming at each other over it). But they're also right that many of those who reacted here probably didn't read the article.
Flo produces a lot of content about Penn State because PSU wrestling has the largest fan base and because PSU wrestling is the most successful program; they're not being disingenuous, it's just supply and demand.
That said, it's a bit much when the Flo guys feign astonishment at the reactions they get from certain takes when they simultaneously can't agree on the proper seeding criteria for B1Gs themselves (and spend half the podcast screaming at each other over it). But they're also right that many of those who reacted here probably didn't read the article.
Ykes - I'm just happy that one wasn't meant for me. I've come close once or twice!
Guys, in a sentence "what's so bad about wrestlers having to 'earn' their seed?
After rethinking this topic for 6 pages, my new idea is that conference and national seed seeding should be separate from the ranking services. What if every wrestler simply entered the season 'unseeded'? Furthermore an official rank for seeding is published but doesn't start until say January first and is based entirely on the current seasons quality of wins and loses, strength of opponents, and most importantly 'volume' of quality opponents... And yes the other 'rankings' can be used as a reference to determine quality of opponents.
There is no point in seeding early in the season as this is exactly how wrestlers with a prior years body of work get seeded on top and stay there regardless of current seasons volume of quality of wins.
If the metric remissions focused on quality of wins and more importantly volume of quality wins, kids can leave from in the rankings as higher seeds 'duck or miss' high quality opponents.
This would have coaches thinking twice about not only the importance of single matches, but more broadly at strength of schedule, as a week schedule could hurt the entire team as it pertains to seeding.
Again I have no issue with a legend getting a lower seed due to a lean schedule, as it is what it is, based upon what is earned not expected. I also have no issue with said wrestler mowing down everyone in front of him from a lower seed in a tourney, and someone above him getting a bad draw accordingly. In the end the best kids win.
It's unfortunate that everyone is up in arms since VJ is the focus of the debate but let's use him as an example. All ranking services have him as #1 as most including me expect him to win it all based upon his career body of work and how he looks this year. However, based upon this year's results alone and that of the rest of the weight class, the 'ranking seed' might justifiably have him at #2 or 3. Seems fair to me and it doesn't mean I don't love our meat ball, I was born and raised in Pittsburgh you know.
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With all due respect, the two are not the same. We "police" each other here....over there not so much. And if that doesn't stop things the mods do a great job of throwing out the trash. There is no way you'll have members here running down other teams kids by calling them druggies, accusing them of taking PEDs, saying their family's are taking payoffs to wrestle certain places, etc. etc. If it happens it doesn't happen very long. Over there it's almost as if its encourage. They claim it's the best board on the net but that's no longer true. It truly is a cesspool.
Btw, welcome to BWI. Always a pleasure to talk wrestling with fans of other schools.
Thanks Johnstown.
I may have been exaggerating a bit about the comparison... Im a very sarcastic person in "real life". Still trying to figure out how to do that on a forum correctly. I promise you that you will not find me running down atheletes. I may rib some posters every once in a while though.
I may have been exaggerating a bit about the comparison... Im a very sarcastic person in "real life". Still trying to figure out how to do that on a forum correctly. I promise you that you will not find me running down atheletes. I may rib some posters every once in a while though.
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