What if Gilman can't go?

[NothingMeaningful]

1) when does USAW need to know if he can go to the Olympics?
2) if he can't compete there, does Vito automatically go?

Yeah, I know: "he's drilling in the room right now!"

 

[PSU_Pride_93]

Yes, america has qualified the spot regardless so Vito would go. Similarly if an athlete got covid they would be replaced with the runner up. So to answer part 1, id say all is fair up until the day they leave for acclimation training. At that point, one could fail a covid test and may need to be replaced.
i mean if you are referring to Gilman in a boot, then i wouldn’t be worried. If it were severe, then we most likely would have heard it by now from USA wrestling. Prolly just a tweak or sprain that they are just taking extra precaution

 

[SRATH]

It couldn't have been too big of deal or he wouldn't have posed for a picture..........like with all injuries, time will tell.

 

[west2east]

Gilman will be ready

 

[Dogwelder]

It couldn't have been too big of deal or he wouldn't have posed for a picture..........like with all injuries, time will tell.

Hey, is today Post Like Roar day?

 

[RoarLions1]

I took the OP's question as using a hypothetical to get an answer some may not know. Gilman in a boot was convenient. PSU_Pride answered the question well.

In related news, the USA has NOT YET QUALIFIED 65kg. With one more opportunity to qualify one of the two remaining spots at the Olympics, the USA will surely send Oliver. It will be a tough tournament, as there are other countries with solid wrestlers that also have not yet earned a spot. The final Olympic Qualifier is May 6-9 in Sofia, Bulgaria. There will be no true 2nd, so only the finalists earn their country a spot.

 

[1AA]

I took the OP's question as using a hypothetical to get an answer some may not know. Gilman in a boot was convenient. PSU_Pride answered the question well.

In related news, the USA has NOT YET QUALIFIED 65kg. With one more opportunity to qualify one of the two remaining spots at the Olympics, the USA will surely send Oliver. It will be a tough tournament, as there are other countries with solid wrestlers that also have not yet earned a spot. The final Olympic Qualifier is May 6-9 in Sofia, Bulgaria. There will be no true 2nd, so only the finalists earn their country a spot.

Do we know the countries that haven't qualified? What's our chances of qualifying? JO wrestling his best should do it I feel.

 

[El-Jefe]

TL;DR version of a very long post: Oliver has a shot. Many countries ranked ahead of him will likely be entered, but those rankings are unreliable -- he'd probably around the 5th or so ranked guy there. And as Roar has said, he needs to make the finals since there will be no True 3rd match.

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The details:

The following countries are qualified at 65 kg -- with UWW seeding rankings:
1 - Russia - Rashidov
2 - India - Bajrang
3 - Kazakhstan - Niyabekov
4 - Hungary - Muszukajev
5 - Japan - Otoguro
10 - Mongolia - Tumur-Ochir
17 - Argentina - Destribats
34 - Senegal - Diatta
N/R - Azerbaijan - Aliyev (note, Rahimzade ranked 15)
N/R - Armenia - Tevanyan
N/R - Cuba - Valdes
N/R - Yazdani (note, Maghsoudi ranked 19)
N/R - Krgyzstan - Akmataliev
N/R - Tunisia - Dakhlaoui (note, Jelassi ranked 35)

The following countries have yet to qualify:
6 - Bahrain
7 - Ukraine
8 - Turkey
11 - Belarus
13 - Guinea-Bissau
14 - Ecuador
16 - Germany
18 - Nigeria
20 - Peru
21 - France
22 - North Korea
23 - Puerto Rico
24 - USA - Oliver
25 - Egypt
26 - Algeria
28 - Uzbekistan
30 - Brazil
32 - Poland
33 - Taipei
36 - Dominican Republic
T38 - South Africa
T38 - Venezuela
40 - Morocco

Notes:
- UWW rankings are based upon results at "Olympic Seeding events" which are very limited (IIRC only 5 events can generate seeding points) -- so these might not be representative of an analyst ranking.
- Skipped numbers indicate countries with multiple ranked wrestlers.
- Of the unqualified countries, the highest ranked wrestler is listed (too lazy to look up wrestlers for every country!)
- No idea which of these countries will send a rep to Last Chance Qualifier in Bulgaria -- or if that rep will be the highest ranked guy (for example, Oliver is not the highest-ranked American).

Zain and Yianni were both ranked, so one can reasonably say that Oliver is too low at 24. A more reasonable extrapolation might be around 12 -- in which case, he's right in the mix to qualify.

Of the countries ranked above 12th, Ukraine, Turkey, and Belarus are traditional powers.

 

[nerfstate]

TL;DR version of a very long post: Oliver has a shot. Many countries ranked ahead of him will likely be entered, but those rankings are unreliable -- he'd probably around the 5th or so ranked guy there. And as Roar has said, he needs to make the finals since there will be no True 3rd match.

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The details:

The following countries are qualified at 65 kg -- with UWW seeding rankings:
1 - Russia - Rashidov
2 - India - Bajrang
3 - Kazakhstan - Niyabekov
4 - Hungary - Muszukajev
5 - Japan - Otoguro
10 - Mongolia - Tumur-Ochir
17 - Argentina - Destribats
34 - Senegal - Diatta
N/R - Azerbaijan - Aliyev (note, Rahimzade ranked 15)
N/R - Armenia - Tevanyan
N/R - Cuba - Valdes
N/R - Yazdani (note, Maghsoudi ranked 19)
N/R - Krgyzstan - Akmataliev
N/R - Tunisia - Dakhlaoui (note, Jelassi ranked 35)

The following countries have yet to qualify:
6 - Bahrain
7 - Ukraine
8 - Turkey
11 - Belarus
13 - Guinea-Bissau
14 - Ecuador
16 - Germany
18 - Nigeria
20 - Peru
21 - France
22 - North Korea
23 - Puerto Rico
24 - USA - Oliver
25 - Egypt
26 - Algeria
28 - Uzbekistan
30 - Brazil
32 - Poland
33 - Taipei
36 - Dominican Republic
T38 - South Africa
T38 - Venezuela
40 - Morocco

Notes:
- UWW rankings are based upon results at "Olympic Seeding events" which are very limited (IIRC only 5 events can generate seeding points) -- so these might not be representative of an analyst ranking.
- Skipped numbers indicate countries with multiple ranked wrestlers.
- Of the unqualified countries, the highest ranked wrestler is listed (too lazy to look up wrestlers for every country!)
- No idea which of these countries will send a rep to Last Chance Qualifier in Bulgaria -- or if that rep will be the highest ranked guy (for example, Oliver is not the highest-ranked American).

Zain and Yianni were both ranked, so one can reasonably say that Oliver is too low at 24. A more reasonable extrapolation might be around 12 -- in which case, he's right in the mix to qualify.

Of the countries ranked above 12th, Ukraine, Turkey, and Belarus are traditional powers.

Wasn’t they guy who decked Zain Canadian? I thought he qualified.

 

[El-Jefe]

Wasn’t they guy who decked Zain Canadian? I thought he qualified.

That was the Argentine, and yes he's in.

 

[PAgeologist]

Hypothetical question... Can say Russia and India send their guys, even though their already qualified, just to try keep anyone else from qualifying? Or is the Last Chance only for countries that are unqualified?

 

[McScoreley]

Hypothetical question... Can say Russia and India send their guys, even though their already qualified, just to try keep anyone else from qualifying? Or is the Last Chance only for countries that are unqualified?

No - only unqualified countries can send their guys.

 

[PAgeologist]

No - only unqualified countries can send their guys.

Ok. Thank you.

 

[1AA]

TL;DR version of a very long post: Oliver has a shot. Many countries ranked ahead of him will likely be entered, but those rankings are unreliable -- he'd probably around the 5th or so ranked guy there. And as Roar has said, he needs to make the finals since there will be no True 3rd match.

-----------------------------------

The details:

The following countries are qualified at 65 kg -- with UWW seeding rankings:
1 - Russia - Rashidov
2 - India - Bajrang
3 - Kazakhstan - Niyabekov
4 - Hungary - Muszukajev
5 - Japan - Otoguro
10 - Mongolia - Tumur-Ochir
17 - Argentina - Destribats
34 - Senegal - Diatta
N/R - Azerbaijan - Aliyev (note, Rahimzade ranked 15)
N/R - Armenia - Tevanyan
N/R - Cuba - Valdes
N/R - Yazdani (note, Maghsoudi ranked 19)
N/R - Krgyzstan - Akmataliev
N/R - Tunisia - Dakhlaoui (note, Jelassi ranked 35)

The following countries have yet to qualify:
6 - Bahrain
7 - Ukraine
8 - Turkey
11 - Belarus
13 - Guinea-Bissau
14 - Ecuador
16 - Germany
18 - Nigeria
20 - Peru
21 - France
22 - North Korea
23 - Puerto Rico
24 - USA - Oliver
25 - Egypt
26 - Algeria
28 - Uzbekistan
30 - Brazil
32 - Poland
33 - Taipei
36 - Dominican Republic
T38 - South Africa
T38 - Venezuela
40 - Morocco

Notes:
- UWW rankings are based upon results at "Olympic Seeding events" which are very limited (IIRC only 5 events can generate seeding points) -- so these might not be representative of an analyst ranking.
- Skipped numbers indicate countries with multiple ranked wrestlers.
- Of the unqualified countries, the highest ranked wrestler is listed (too lazy to look up wrestlers for every country!)
- No idea which of these countries will send a rep to Last Chance Qualifier in Bulgaria -- or if that rep will be the highest ranked guy (for example, Oliver is not the highest-ranked American).

Zain and Yianni were both ranked, so one can reasonably say that Oliver is too low at 24. A more reasonable extrapolation might be around 12 -- in which case, he's right in the mix to qualify.

Of the countries ranked above 12th, Ukraine, Turkey, and Belarus are traditional powers.

Damn fine analysis. Thank you

 

[CurtisLoew40]

A lot of Russian transplants tho

 

[El-Jefe]

True, though to be fair, there are a number of American transplants: Micic (Serbia), Gomez (Puerto Rico), Amine (San Marino) all qualified for the Olympics.

Plus others who train full-time in the US: Bekzod (Uzbekistan), Dhesi (Canada).

 

[tikk10]

A few weeks ago Seth Petarra over at Intermat previewed the guys Oliver might have to go through. It's a thorough breakdown, of which I'll paste a short snippet. (It's paywalled)

A very credentialed trio of wrestlers will be standing opposite of Oliver in the form of #3 (70) Ilyas Bekbulatov (UZB), #13 Magomedmurad Gadzhiev (POL), and 2016 57 KG Olympic champion Vladimir Khinchegashvili (GEO). Bekbulatov, a 2017 European champion for Russia and 2020 European champion, was the heavy favorite to qualify Uzbekistan at the Asian qualifier, but was chin whipped and pinned by eventual champion Ernazar Akhmataliev of Kyrgyzstan. Two-time world medalist #13 Magomedmurad Gadzhiev (POL) and 2x World/Olympic champion Vladimir Khinchegashvili (GEO) have prestigious resumes with multiple wins over world and Olympic medalists, but failed to qualify at the European Olympic qualifier due to losses to 2020 Individual World Cup champion #2 Vazgen Tevanyan (ARM).