I get what you mean and agree. The last three remarks in my reply to you were made in jest. My post that you replied to was a dig at a previous poster. That's the only occasions when i use that word.
What's the outlook for Cael's boys in 2020?
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I was asking for your opinion that's all. Since two people were offended with what I posted. I wanted yours being you responded to someone else who responded to my post. I take it you didn't read that.
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Can Penn State wrestling repeat as NCAA champs in 2020? Reasons for/against, lineup thoughts, and more
By Jim Carlson | Special to PennLive | Posted March 31, 2019 at 07:00 AM
BY JIM CARLSON | SPECIAL TO PENNLIVE
Penn State head coach Cael Sanderson at the 2019 NCAA Division 1 Wrestling Championships at PPG Paints Arena in Pittsburgh on Saturday, March 23, 2019. Barry Reeger | Special to PennLive PennLive
Here we are on March 31, just eight days removed from Penn State's fourth straight NCAA wrestling title – its eighth in nine years, actually – and fans would rather contract Mad Cow Disease than go without thinking about whether they should save their money to be able to purchase 2020 championship T-shirts and hats.
And with the prices the NCAA charges for its logo-laden souvenirs, one does have to look ahead.
The prevailing question that Penn State fans who are used to winning titles probably asked while exiting Pittsburgh with yet another championship is "What about Minneapolis in 2020?''
And why not? Being king of college wrestling has become the standard at Penn State. It’s what head coach Cael Sanderson does at Penn State (wait, didn't somebody coin a similar phrase in 2018?).
The titles just keep coming. The first four-year streak stopped in 2014-15 when Sanderson and staff opted to redshirt Nico Megaludis and Zain Retherford and freshmen Jason Nolf and Bo Nickal. The Lions then generated four more, only one of them – 2018 -- closely contested by Ohio State.
But that’s history that everyone knows. What we don’t know is what happens next season without Nickal and Nolf, who take with them 237 combined career victories – an incredible 196 of those wins earning bonus points -- and 119 falls.
Sanderson has a plan most likely already in place. It might be in a downtown bank’s lockbox somewhere, but there is a staff plan because that’s who they are, that’s what they do.
Other teams do, too. Iowa is returning almost everyone in its lineup and is bringing back 75 team points. That’s more than Penn State (58) if heavyweight Anthony Cassar and 184-pounder Shakur Rasheed do not return, but it’s a lofty 85 for the Lions if those two do. Rumors are already flying on social media that both have been granted a medical redshirt and another year of eligibility, but Penn State has yet to announce it.
Rasheed told hundreds of Penn State fans after the Pittsburgh NCAA finals that he wants to return. Cassar was noncommittal, saying that he’d first discuss the situation with family and coaches because he harbors freestyle aspirations.
Ohio State is losing a lot of team points to graduation but has a wealth of talent in its soon-to-be, state-of-the-art wrestling room. So do Cornell and Michigan and Oklahoma State.
Penn State won’t be as dynamic, and the Lions won’t be as deep, but that doesn't necessarily mean that Penn State can’t win yet another crown.
Let’s take a look at five things that just might have to happen:
1. TRUST THE PROCESS
Penn State's Anthony Cassar celebrates his 10-1 major decision over Oklahoma State's Derek White in their 285 pound championship bout at the 2019 NCAA Division 1 Wrestling Championships at PPG Paints Arena in Pittsburgh on Saturday, March 23, 2019. Barry Reeger | Special to PennLive PennLive
There doesn’t have to be a major overhaul. There doesn’t have to be wholesale redshirting. The question still seems to be hanging, though, if the Lions really have to drop back and punt like they did in 2015.
“You look back and you think, if we would have done this or that, maybe we could have won that year,’’ Sanderson said after this year’s finals about the 2015 season. “So who knows? I don’t know. We’re comfortable and happy with the way things have turned out. And I was able to create a wave to roll through. And now the exciting part is creating another wave.’’
Even without Nolf and Nickal, the coach who will be entering his 11th season at Penn State still has a wave of talent that can surf past most, if not all, foes. But that would be standing mostly pat and not redshirting a couple of current starters and learning officially – if they don’t already know -- that Cassar indeed wants to come back.
If Nick Lee and Vincenzo Joseph and Mark Hall and Cassar are in the lineup, it will be a starting 10 that will be much stronger than opponents who are giving it an early cursory glance might think.
2. WAIT ON THE WEIGHT
The naked eye says Roman Bravo-Young (133) and Nick Lee (141) will maintain their current weight class. Imagine what a little more muscle on each of those frames can do for the two All-Americans.
Penn State's Nick Lee battles Iowa's Max Murin in their 141 quarterfinal round pound bout at the 2019 NCAA Division 1 Wrestling Championships at PPG Paints Arena in Pittsburgh on Friday, March 22, 2019. Lee won by 4-1 decision. Barry Reeger | Special to PennLive PennLive
Whether Joseph can cut to 165 for the fourth straight year is a legitimate question. If he cannot, that could set off a string of changes, not the least of which would be an Olympic redshirt for Mark Hall. That would open the door for Mason Manville, who has yet to wrestle at his weight. He was competitive in matches one weight class, and at times two, over his natural 165.
But he is also an accomplished Greco-Roman wrestler and if anyone on the roster would be a prime candidate to take an Olympic redshirt – he does meet the qualifications – it would be Manville.
The staff wanted Iowa state champ Brody Teske to bulk up and be stronger for 125 but he only wrestled in the Southern Scuffle, and not particularly well. We know Brady Berge is going to 157; he said that last November. Making 149 this year and holding it clearly was a struggle for the redshirt freshman.
Which brings us to …
3. DECIDE WHO’S IN AND WHO’S OUT
Plenty of other questions relate to newcomers, including recruits and possible transfers.
Is Aaron Brooks ready for prime time? He’s shown very little to the contrary and certainly fits in the category of one of the country’s best recruits, especially because he’s spent the year after high school in Hagerstown, Maryland, at the Olympic Training Center in Colorado Springs.
Can two-time PIAA champ Carter Starocci cut to 174 if he has to? He jumped two weight classes in high school this season to 182, so that might be a possibility.
Cathedral Prep's Carter Starocci defeats Mt Lebanon's Luke Stout in their 182 lb bout in the 2019 PIAA Class 3A wrestling state championship finals at Giant Center. March 09, 2019 Sean Simmers | ssimmers@pennlive.com PENNLIVE.COM
And if Kent State’s Kyle Conel transfers to Penn State, will his rehabbed shoulder hold up for five months? That would leave a spot for Michael Beard, who also has been out of high school for a year and probably would be a prime candidate for the coaches to redshirt.
And don’t forget Seth Nevills, brother of graduating senior Nick Nevills, as a heavyweight candidate if Cassar doesn’t return and if he enrolls after his greyshirt. He has top-notch credentials as well, although next season’s NCAA heavyweight class could be as loaded as this season’s 133- and 165-pound weight classes.
What’s noticeable is that the recruits are upperweights. Depth in the lower weights is not strong and a healthy 2019-20 season for Bravo-Young, Lee and Jarod Verkleeren (149) is necessary.
It’s always interesting to consider the philosophy of a redshirt. In Mark Hall’s case, and he’s been a star on the freestyle circuit, it’s highly unlikely he could cut to 163 pounds (74kg) and it’s even more unlikely he could compete with a USA beast at 189 (86kg) named David Taylor. Which begs the question of whether it’s worth leaving the lineup for what could be invaluable freestyle experience but with a better than average chance of little to no tangible reward.
4. LINING THINGS UP
There are a lot of scribble marks on this invisible lineup card we’re writing here, but let’s take a look based on the staff not making wholesale changes and pursuing another crown.
125 pounds:
Teske isn’t a shoo-in over Devin Schnupp, who didn’t win much but fought like hell. The coaches must decide who will win more dual meets, to say nothing of who can win in the room and who can make weight. Losing Nick Suriano and Gavin Teasdale hurt, but neither one was making 125 again.
133 pounds:
The fact that Bravo-Young placed eighth in that weight class, despite his last-bout, 10-0 shellacking, was impressive. His quickness is almost unparalleled, and his confidence didn’t waver much despite the in-season knee injury.
Roman Bravo Young of the Penn State Nittany Lions wrestles Jevon Parrish of the Nebraska Cornhuskers in the 133 pound weight class during the wrestling match against Nebraska at Rec Hall on Sunday, Jan. 20, 2019. Linsey Fagan | Special to PennLive
141 pounds:
Lee is one of the most dependable wrestlers you’ll find. A prospective finals berth against Cornell’s Yianni Diakamohalis next season isn’t much of a stretch. Big points coming from Lee.
149 pounds:
Verkleeren did well in relief of Berge, sometimes not knowing until the last minute that he’d be replacing Berge. And while he remains largely unproven, his work ethic will keep him in good graces.
157 pounds:
Berge also is unproven but at least should feel better being eight pounds heavier. He had some quality wins but the inconsistency factor didn’t help.
165 pounds:
Two-time champion Joseph took the finals loss hard, as you might expect, because he’s an elite wrestler. What would help the team would be for him to stay right here and try to bat 3-for-4 in the finals in a rugged weight class and improve on the 18 NCAA team points he earned this season.
Barry Reeger
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Penn State's Vincenzo Joseph takes the mat for 157 pound championship bout against Virginia Tech's Mekhi Lewis at the 2019 NCAA Division 1 Wrestling Championships at PPG Paints Arena in Pittsburgh on Saturday, March 23, 2019. Barry Reeger | Special to PennLive PennLive
174 pounds:
Same with Hall. If Penn State wants to make another run, Hall and his 17 NCAA points are needed. One would think the chances of Arizona State’s Zahid Valencia holding 174 next season would be slim.
184 pounds:
Here’s where things get interesting, if Rasheed returns and if his knee becomes healthy and if he can stay durable and if he isn’t challenged by Brooks. In a perfect world, Brooks redshirts, but think about Hall’s redshirt being pulled two seasons ago.
197 pounds:
Another question mark. If Brooks is that good, does Rasheed move up? If Conel arrives, does he hold off Rasheed and/or Beard? At least there’s depth at 184 and 197.
Cassar had the answer in his role as closer this year. He was certainly one of the most entertaining heavyweights in the country, and ultimately the best one as well. Seth Nevills has the credentials and a few decent wins wrestling unattached. The Lions definitely need Nevills to stick around on the East Coast. But if a fifth straight team title is in sight, it's with Cassar in the lineup once again.
Barry Reeger
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Penn State heard coach Cael Sanderson watches Brady Berge battle Fresno State's Khristian Olivias in their 149 pound bout during Session 1 of the 2019 NCAA Division 1 Wrestling Championships at PPG Paints Arena in Pittsburgh on Thursday, March 21, 2019. Berge won by a 6-3 decision. Barry Reeger | Special to PennLive PennLive
That’s the trick, right. Iowa’s lineup has the potential to be entertaining and high scoring, but the question lingers about how much improvement wrestlers such as Austin DeSanto, Max Murin, Pat Lugo and Kaleb Young will show.
Alex Marinelli and Jacob Warner, too. How high is their cap and can the Hawkeyes get out of the quarterfinals with more than two point-scorers? The return of Michael Kemerer should increase the Hawks' potential.
Iowa's Austin DeSanto beats Penn State's Roman Bravo-Young 7-2 in their 133 pound bout in the round of sixteen at the 2019 NCAA Division 1 Wrestling Championships at PPG Paints Arena in Pittsburgh on Thursday, March 21, 2019. Barry Reeger | Special to PennLive PennLive
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Alex Marinelli and Jacob Warner, too. How high is their cap and can the Hawkeyes get out of the quarterfinals with more than two point-scorers? The return of Michael Kemerer should increase the Hawks' potential.
Ohio State might not be returning enough points to be labeled an early contender, but don't write off the Bucks. Luke Pletcher (133) and Kollin Moore (197) will be joined by Sammy Sasso (149) and possibly Carson Kharchia (165), Gavin Hoffman (184) and Greg Kerkvliet (285). There's also another Jordan (Rocky, 174) around to challenge for a lineup spot.
Then there is Cornell, Oklahoma State, Michigan, Virginia Tech and Arizona State with enough stars to temper the firepower of the aforementioned contenders depending on the seeds and pairings.
Penn State's Sanderson constantly stresses 'decisions' that his wrestlers have to make on the mat. The decisions that he and his wrestlers soon will make off the mat will say a lot about what they think their title chances are for next season.
It's not like there's a long list of team-title contenders. Dual meets at Iowa and at home against Ohio State will be interesting and winnable with a lineup that resembles this year's.
And if the overall plan includes trusting the process, minimal redshirting and continued blue-chip recruiting, the success will continue not only next season but long past it.
Can Penn State wrestling repeat as NCAA champs in 2020? Reasons for/against, lineup thoughts, and more
By Jim Carlson | Special to PennLive | Posted March 31, 2019 at 07:00 AM
BY JIM CARLSON | SPECIAL TO PENNLIVE
Penn State head coach Cael Sanderson at the 2019 NCAA Division 1 Wrestling Championships at PPG Paints Arena in Pittsburgh on Saturday, March 23, 2019. Barry Reeger | Special to PennLive PennLive
Here we are on March 31, just eight days removed from Penn State's fourth straight NCAA wrestling title – its eighth in nine years, actually – and fans would rather contract Mad Cow Disease than go without thinking about whether they should save their money to be able to purchase 2020 championship T-shirts and hats.
And with the prices the NCAA charges for its logo-laden souvenirs, one does have to look ahead.
The prevailing question that Penn State fans who are used to winning titles probably asked while exiting Pittsburgh with yet another championship is "What about Minneapolis in 2020?''
And why not? Being king of college wrestling has become the standard at Penn State. It’s what head coach Cael Sanderson does at Penn State (wait, didn't somebody coin a similar phrase in 2018?).
The titles just keep coming. The first four-year streak stopped in 2014-15 when Sanderson and staff opted to redshirt Nico Megaludis and Zain Retherford and freshmen Jason Nolf and Bo Nickal. The Lions then generated four more, only one of them – 2018 -- closely contested by Ohio State.
But that’s history that everyone knows. What we don’t know is what happens next season without Nickal and Nolf, who take with them 237 combined career victories – an incredible 196 of those wins earning bonus points -- and 119 falls.
Sanderson has a plan most likely already in place. It might be in a downtown bank’s lockbox somewhere, but there is a staff plan because that’s who they are, that’s what they do.
Other teams do, too. Iowa is returning almost everyone in its lineup and is bringing back 75 team points. That’s more than Penn State (58) if heavyweight Anthony Cassar and 184-pounder Shakur Rasheed do not return, but it’s a lofty 85 for the Lions if those two do. Rumors are already flying on social media that both have been granted a medical redshirt and another year of eligibility, but Penn State has yet to announce it.
Rasheed told hundreds of Penn State fans after the Pittsburgh NCAA finals that he wants to return. Cassar was noncommittal, saying that he’d first discuss the situation with family and coaches because he harbors freestyle aspirations.
Ohio State is losing a lot of team points to graduation but has a wealth of talent in its soon-to-be, state-of-the-art wrestling room. So do Cornell and Michigan and Oklahoma State.
Penn State won’t be as dynamic, and the Lions won’t be as deep, but that doesn't necessarily mean that Penn State can’t win yet another crown.
Let’s take a look at five things that just might have to happen:
1. TRUST THE PROCESS
Penn State's Anthony Cassar celebrates his 10-1 major decision over Oklahoma State's Derek White in their 285 pound championship bout at the 2019 NCAA Division 1 Wrestling Championships at PPG Paints Arena in Pittsburgh on Saturday, March 23, 2019. Barry Reeger | Special to PennLive PennLive
There doesn’t have to be a major overhaul. There doesn’t have to be wholesale redshirting. The question still seems to be hanging, though, if the Lions really have to drop back and punt like they did in 2015.
“You look back and you think, if we would have done this or that, maybe we could have won that year,’’ Sanderson said after this year’s finals about the 2015 season. “So who knows? I don’t know. We’re comfortable and happy with the way things have turned out. And I was able to create a wave to roll through. And now the exciting part is creating another wave.’’
Even without Nolf and Nickal, the coach who will be entering his 11th season at Penn State still has a wave of talent that can surf past most, if not all, foes. But that would be standing mostly pat and not redshirting a couple of current starters and learning officially – if they don’t already know -- that Cassar indeed wants to come back.
If Nick Lee and Vincenzo Joseph and Mark Hall and Cassar are in the lineup, it will be a starting 10 that will be much stronger than opponents who are giving it an early cursory glance might think.
2. WAIT ON THE WEIGHT
The naked eye says Roman Bravo-Young (133) and Nick Lee (141) will maintain their current weight class. Imagine what a little more muscle on each of those frames can do for the two All-Americans.
Penn State's Nick Lee battles Iowa's Max Murin in their 141 quarterfinal round pound bout at the 2019 NCAA Division 1 Wrestling Championships at PPG Paints Arena in Pittsburgh on Friday, March 22, 2019. Lee won by 4-1 decision. Barry Reeger | Special to PennLive PennLive
Whether Joseph can cut to 165 for the fourth straight year is a legitimate question. If he cannot, that could set off a string of changes, not the least of which would be an Olympic redshirt for Mark Hall. That would open the door for Mason Manville, who has yet to wrestle at his weight. He was competitive in matches one weight class, and at times two, over his natural 165.
But he is also an accomplished Greco-Roman wrestler and if anyone on the roster would be a prime candidate to take an Olympic redshirt – he does meet the qualifications – it would be Manville.
The staff wanted Iowa state champ Brody Teske to bulk up and be stronger for 125 but he only wrestled in the Southern Scuffle, and not particularly well. We know Brady Berge is going to 157; he said that last November. Making 149 this year and holding it clearly was a struggle for the redshirt freshman.
Which brings us to …
3. DECIDE WHO’S IN AND WHO’S OUT
Plenty of other questions relate to newcomers, including recruits and possible transfers.
Is Aaron Brooks ready for prime time? He’s shown very little to the contrary and certainly fits in the category of one of the country’s best recruits, especially because he’s spent the year after high school in Hagerstown, Maryland, at the Olympic Training Center in Colorado Springs.
Can two-time PIAA champ Carter Starocci cut to 174 if he has to? He jumped two weight classes in high school this season to 182, so that might be a possibility.
Cathedral Prep's Carter Starocci defeats Mt Lebanon's Luke Stout in their 182 lb bout in the 2019 PIAA Class 3A wrestling state championship finals at Giant Center. March 09, 2019 Sean Simmers | ssimmers@pennlive.com PENNLIVE.COM
And if Kent State’s Kyle Conel transfers to Penn State, will his rehabbed shoulder hold up for five months? That would leave a spot for Michael Beard, who also has been out of high school for a year and probably would be a prime candidate for the coaches to redshirt.
And don’t forget Seth Nevills, brother of graduating senior Nick Nevills, as a heavyweight candidate if Cassar doesn’t return and if he enrolls after his greyshirt. He has top-notch credentials as well, although next season’s NCAA heavyweight class could be as loaded as this season’s 133- and 165-pound weight classes.
What’s noticeable is that the recruits are upperweights. Depth in the lower weights is not strong and a healthy 2019-20 season for Bravo-Young, Lee and Jarod Verkleeren (149) is necessary.
It’s always interesting to consider the philosophy of a redshirt. In Mark Hall’s case, and he’s been a star on the freestyle circuit, it’s highly unlikely he could cut to 163 pounds (74kg) and it’s even more unlikely he could compete with a USA beast at 189 (86kg) named David Taylor. Which begs the question of whether it’s worth leaving the lineup for what could be invaluable freestyle experience but with a better than average chance of little to no tangible reward.
4. LINING THINGS UP
There are a lot of scribble marks on this invisible lineup card we’re writing here, but let’s take a look based on the staff not making wholesale changes and pursuing another crown.
125 pounds:
Teske isn’t a shoo-in over Devin Schnupp, who didn’t win much but fought like hell. The coaches must decide who will win more dual meets, to say nothing of who can win in the room and who can make weight. Losing Nick Suriano and Gavin Teasdale hurt, but neither one was making 125 again.
133 pounds:
The fact that Bravo-Young placed eighth in that weight class, despite his last-bout, 10-0 shellacking, was impressive. His quickness is almost unparalleled, and his confidence didn’t waver much despite the in-season knee injury.
Roman Bravo Young of the Penn State Nittany Lions wrestles Jevon Parrish of the Nebraska Cornhuskers in the 133 pound weight class during the wrestling match against Nebraska at Rec Hall on Sunday, Jan. 20, 2019. Linsey Fagan | Special to PennLive
141 pounds:
Lee is one of the most dependable wrestlers you’ll find. A prospective finals berth against Cornell’s Yianni Diakamohalis next season isn’t much of a stretch. Big points coming from Lee.
149 pounds:
Verkleeren did well in relief of Berge, sometimes not knowing until the last minute that he’d be replacing Berge. And while he remains largely unproven, his work ethic will keep him in good graces.
157 pounds:
Berge also is unproven but at least should feel better being eight pounds heavier. He had some quality wins but the inconsistency factor didn’t help.
165 pounds:
Two-time champion Joseph took the finals loss hard, as you might expect, because he’s an elite wrestler. What would help the team would be for him to stay right here and try to bat 3-for-4 in the finals in a rugged weight class and improve on the 18 NCAA team points he earned this season.
Barry Reeger
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Penn State's Vincenzo Joseph takes the mat for 157 pound championship bout against Virginia Tech's Mekhi Lewis at the 2019 NCAA Division 1 Wrestling Championships at PPG Paints Arena in Pittsburgh on Saturday, March 23, 2019. Barry Reeger | Special to PennLive PennLive
174 pounds:
Same with Hall. If Penn State wants to make another run, Hall and his 17 NCAA points are needed. One would think the chances of Arizona State’s Zahid Valencia holding 174 next season would be slim.
184 pounds:
Here’s where things get interesting, if Rasheed returns and if his knee becomes healthy and if he can stay durable and if he isn’t challenged by Brooks. In a perfect world, Brooks redshirts, but think about Hall’s redshirt being pulled two seasons ago.
197 pounds:
Another question mark. If Brooks is that good, does Rasheed move up? If Conel arrives, does he hold off Rasheed and/or Beard? At least there’s depth at 184 and 197.
Cassar had the answer in his role as closer this year. He was certainly one of the most entertaining heavyweights in the country, and ultimately the best one as well. Seth Nevills has the credentials and a few decent wins wrestling unattached. The Lions definitely need Nevills to stick around on the East Coast. But if a fifth straight team title is in sight, it's with Cassar in the lineup once again.
Barry Reeger
NCAA-SessionOne-6
Penn State heard coach Cael Sanderson watches Brady Berge battle Fresno State's Khristian Olivias in their 149 pound bout during Session 1 of the 2019 NCAA Division 1 Wrestling Championships at PPG Paints Arena in Pittsburgh on Thursday, March 21, 2019. Berge won by a 6-3 decision. Barry Reeger | Special to PennLive PennLive
That’s the trick, right. Iowa’s lineup has the potential to be entertaining and high scoring, but the question lingers about how much improvement wrestlers such as Austin DeSanto, Max Murin, Pat Lugo and Kaleb Young will show.
Alex Marinelli and Jacob Warner, too. How high is their cap and can the Hawkeyes get out of the quarterfinals with more than two point-scorers? The return of Michael Kemerer should increase the Hawks' potential.
Iowa's Austin DeSanto beats Penn State's Roman Bravo-Young 7-2 in their 133 pound bout in the round of sixteen at the 2019 NCAA Division 1 Wrestling Championships at PPG Paints Arena in Pittsburgh on Thursday, March 21, 2019. Barry Reeger | Special to PennLive PennLive
NCAA-SessionOne-39
Alex Marinelli and Jacob Warner, too. How high is their cap and can the Hawkeyes get out of the quarterfinals with more than two point-scorers? The return of Michael Kemerer should increase the Hawks' potential.
Ohio State might not be returning enough points to be labeled an early contender, but don't write off the Bucks. Luke Pletcher (133) and Kollin Moore (197) will be joined by Sammy Sasso (149) and possibly Carson Kharchia (165), Gavin Hoffman (184) and Greg Kerkvliet (285). There's also another Jordan (Rocky, 174) around to challenge for a lineup spot.
Then there is Cornell, Oklahoma State, Michigan, Virginia Tech and Arizona State with enough stars to temper the firepower of the aforementioned contenders depending on the seeds and pairings.
Penn State's Sanderson constantly stresses 'decisions' that his wrestlers have to make on the mat. The decisions that he and his wrestlers soon will make off the mat will say a lot about what they think their title chances are for next season.
It's not like there's a long list of team-title contenders. Dual meets at Iowa and at home against Ohio State will be interesting and winnable with a lineup that resembles this year's.
And if the overall plan includes trusting the process, minimal redshirting and continued blue-chip recruiting, the success will continue not only next season but long past it.
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