When will they finally allow challenges on penalties?
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Hopefully never. Especially for college games where they have the potential to review every play, the games would last 5 hours. No thanks
You don't add new challenges, but rather let them use their existing ones to challenge penalties as well.
I agree with challenging penalties. In the NFL, they have 2 challenges. Why not use one for penalties? Especially with the Pass Interference inconsistency and it being a spot foul. In College, each coach gets one challenge.
This would not not extend the game much for one extra challenge a game in college.
100% agree. There is no reason why this should not be allowed. The objective is to get the call CORRECT! There is no excuse for the league office having to call Sean Payton after the CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP GAME and tell him the refs fvcked up. It was a no brainer call that would have been reversed in 5 seconds.
What about the ability to review what is dreamed a flagrant pentalty, no more then one per game, by each side? Like the flagrant call missed at the end of the Rams/Saints game? A call that is deamed possibly game changing.
They should be allowed to challenge pass interference and roughing the passer and should have the option for interference spot foul or 15 yards just like roughing the punter has 2 variations with the coach having the ability to challenge it. Just leave the number of challenges the same. Should not increase time dramatically.
The problem is so many calls or non-calls are referee judgment. Obviously the play in the Saints games is a travesty. But in the NFL I have no idea what constitutes pass interference. I often hear announcers say "they are letting them play" after non-calls which, if you enforce the rule book, are no-brainer PI. That said, maybe the league does not want PI called to the degree the rule book stipulates. I don't know. How would those non-PI plays be adjudicated? Same with OL holding, can those be challenged?
I think this falls under the heading "emotional cases make for bad law".
I think this falls under the heading "emotional cases make for bad law".
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I thought helmet to helmet or targeting was reviewable even if not called in the field. The PI was missed, but so was the helmet to helmet on the same play.
How bout the illegal pic to set up go/ahead TD? Pats also had a chintzy. Rough called on them in first half. Did Dorsett get held on his TD?
Berry held Gronk all night.
they review helmet to helmet regularly when there is a PF penalty. I have not seen them do it when there is no penalty on the field, although they probably can do that.
You guys are confusing NCAA with NFL rules. It’s NCAA that reviews targeting (or even has a specific penalty called “targeting”). No review for helmet hits in the NFL (at least as a formal review, but they do have Riveron and company in their ear from NY giving some guidance).
There more more NFL games decided by the zebras this year than ever before. In a game of this magnitude, let the players decide the outcome. I as rooting for the SaInts, I respect Brees.The Saints had a call against the Steelers to have them handed a game, just not as blatant.
The NFL needs to look no further for an example than the CFL which has a review process for penalties. I don't watch enough CFL to know all the details but I have seen penalty reviews in their games.
And don't forget the patented Gronk push-off which only gets called a couple times per season.
I'd hold on to your one challenge until towards the end of the game unless a pentalty or lack of pentalty causes points to be missed.
How about auto booth review with under 4 minutes to go in game along with one extra challenge. For God's sake...GET THE CALL CORRECT!
Allowing challenges on things like PI would likely open another can of worms with refereeing - what level of PI (or not) would be considered sufficient for reversal? I have no dog in the Saints-Rams fight, but a significant issue regarding leveling the playing field that they could easily do something about is to make at least the conference championships, and maybe the second round of playoffs too, played on neutral fields. The Rams in particular were at a big disadvantage with the crowd noise all game, and this applies to a lesser extent to the other playoff games too. I realize the visiting teams did pretty well this year, but to get the best and fairest games the playoffs should be on neutral fields. I don't see why teams that may have a better record simply due to an easier schedule in some cases should get what is typically a significant advantage in the playoffs over other championship-caliber teams. College conferences have their championship games on neutral fields; I don't see why the NFL couldn't.
Look at the empty seats at some of those games for an easy answer. It would be a horrific decision.
A couple of you hit on this already, but PI is a judgment call. Under the rules you could probably almost call it every single pass play. That goes for holding and illegal contact downfield as well.
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