Teske - finally someone who can defend himself at 125!
157 - I am hoping that Hayden comes to his senses and wants to closer to home and win an NC!!! Really who wants a degree from NcST??? I am trying to use Jedi mind tricks here!
Who do you project at 125 and 157 next year?
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Teske - finally someone who can defend himself at 125!
157 - I am hoping that Hayden comes to his senses and wants to closer to home and win an NC!!! Really who wants a degree from NcST??? I am trying to use Jedi mind tricks here!
I want iowa to be the front runner. I want us to be the underdogs all year.
those wins are the best and the taste of the tears after the trophy is given to Cael are the saltiest.
those wins are the best and the taste of the tears after the trophy is given to Cael are the saltiest.
Don't waste the Jedi mind tricks on him. If that were even a remote possibility, Trent wouldn't have committed to NC State as well.
Now if you want to use them on Byrd -- the Ohio state champ who's committed to Maryland -- go right ahead.
Or on Shayne Van Ness and Alejandro Herrera.
Don't worry. Cael will get out his tin cup and get the tuition covered. In state/Out of state makes no difference. Zero zip nada.
If you aren't "Ames2State" I'm not sure I can believe you
Well I did finish 1st in my local tourney pool out of 4, so there is that.
There is Brandon Meredith, too.
It bears repeating: at the time, Sasso had off the mat concerns. He was a risk at a non-need weight.
Sasso missed the first 2 weeks of his junior year "because of a non-wrestling issue."
https://www.mcall.com/sports/varsit...catholic-northampton-1218-20161218-story.html
He appears to have cleaned up his act, and good for him. That doesn't change the facts on the ground at the time decisions had to be made.
Assuming Shak returns. RS.
And that brings up another point: either a healthy Shak or Brooks beats 3.5 pts next year.
This, this, this. I know for a fact that Sasso had early interest in PSU as well as a couple of other schools, but Sammy was immature like most everyone his age and didn't get what impact that would have. There were also some concerns early on about him qualifying. He's a really nice kid, good kid, and got it figured out, which is more than I can say about a lot of kids. I think that the early stuff basically took PSU off the table at that time for him and by the time it wouldn't be off the table - well, he had developed relationships with a couple of other schools, namely tOSU and Va Tech, at that time.
There were really no missteps on PSU's part there. PSU is in a position to make those kind of decisions and I doubt there is any hard feelings at all. Sasso ended up at a great wrestling school and in a great position to succeed and it was always one of his top choices. PSU already had Lee and Berge in the fold and added Verk. Everybody came out ahead.
This is a cool question and I don't know if someone has done the research or not (qualifiers would be some work), but Blair's run from 2005-2007 came to mind so I decided to check those years out. I believe from looking that over that 3 year stretch Blair earned 13 All American honors from 7 wrestlers (I think this is pretty complete, but not 100% sure). I also found 8 total qualifiers- all point scorers- each year for those Blair teams (I'm less confident that's 100% complete):
Blair Academy Alumni AA's
2005
Cory Cooperman: 3rd @ 141 (Lehigh)
Zack Esposito: 1st @ 133 (OkSt)
Mark Perry: 2nd @ 165 (Iowa)
Matt Palmer: 8th @ 165 (Columbia)
Steve Mocco: 1st @ 285 (Ok St)
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Robbie Preston: Rd. 12 @ 133 (Harvard)
Kurt Backes: Rd 12 @ 197 (Iowa State)
Nate Gulosh: 1-2 @ 141 (Navy)
2006
Cory Cooperman: 3rd @141 (Lehigh)
Zach Esposito: 3rd @ 149 (OkSt)
Mark Perry: 2nd @ 165 (Iowa)
Steve Mocco: 2nd @ 285 (OkSt)
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Matt Palmer: Rd 12 @ 174 (Columbia)
Kurt Backes: Rd. 12 @ 197 (Iowa State)
Robbie Preston: 1-2 @ 133 (Harvard)
Max Meltzer: 1-2 @ 141 (Harvard)
2007
Max Meltzer: 8th @ 141(Harvard)
Mark Perry: 1st @ 165 (Iowa)
Matt Palmer: 8th @ 174 (Columbia)
Kurt Backes: 2nd @ 197 (Iowa St)
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Robbie Preston: Rd 12 @ 133 (Harvard)
Hudson Taylor: Rd 12 @ 197 (Maryland)
Matt Maciag: 2-2 @ 174 (Wisconsin)
Adam Frey: 1-2 @ 133 (Cornell)
Those Blair teams were pretty amazing and there could be more names to include as it seemed that nearly Blair's entire roster from their 2001-2003 teams competed at the D1 level (a few were DIII AA's, such as Tom Prairie (3x AA at 133 for Williams College) .
A few notable guys also had their careers derailed by serious injuries-- Ryan Davis, for instance, I believe was ranked #1 nationally in his weight as a h.s. senior but back injuries prevented his college career (OkSt recruit) from ever really gaining traction.
And you'd have some other hammers like Kellen Russell (2x NCAA champion, Michigan) and Hudson Taylor (Rd12, 3rd, 4th, 3rd for Maryland) come along in subsequent years out of Blair after the above stretch too.
I'm guessing some of those Blair alum teams, particularly in 2005, would have placed pretty darn high at NCAA's if one were to calculate the team totals.
Brooks is going to be an absolute stud, I know the circumstances but remember 2-3 months ago he lost to Ryan
Christensen of Wisconsin 4-0 at midlands the same guy who went 1-2 at nationals. I’m sure he and Mr Brooks would agree another year training with the team and NLWC wouldn’t be a bad thing at all if that’s how the chips fall.
Christensen of Wisconsin 4-0 at midlands the same guy who went 1-2 at nationals. I’m sure he and Mr Brooks would agree another year training with the team and NLWC wouldn’t be a bad thing at all if that’s how the chips fall.
Shak returns and Aaron is eligible for an Olympic shirt. (The 2nd part is already true.) Do they even bother with a wrestle off in the fall?
Only true if the kids and their families aren’t responsible to cover the non-scholarship part of their room, board and tuition. I assume most of these kids come from stable financial circumstances, and some get graduate degrees in year 5 and 6. I see sticking around for 5 years but not 6. For the record I am not worried about a thing when it comes to sports and financing dreams.
An interesting (and plausible) take that I haven't seen as of yet. I could even see Pipher outscoring Berge in a tournament setting. I do however think Berge is a bad matchup for Pipher in wrestle-offs. We'll see.
Kade Moss vibes. I can’t take a whole offseason of this. They aren’t close.
Everybody's favorite player is the backup QB. Until he becomes the starter -- then the new backup QB is suddenly the favorite and the coach is an idiot for putting in the backup.
Zero chance. Somebody will invent something else out of thin air.
Don't think Gross and Conel transfer in and Rasheed and Cassar come back for a "punt year".
Until the coach "puts" in the backup (AC -- after he beat Nevills), and then the backup wins a championship.
Finally! Someone shares my optimism on Teske. He's gonna be so much better at 125 than we had this past year, and actually net points at conference and nationals.
Moot. If Shak returns, it gives the coach an opportunity to RS a generational talent. Who do you prefer: true freshman Brooks, vs RS Freshman Brooks? Cael, DT, Ruth, Taylor, Nolf, Nickal -- ALL lost matches in the freshman years. Not saying they wouldn't have done as well as they did the year after that -- but I'm sure their coaches knew better than we do.
Where do you see Herrera weight-wise in college? Willie Saylor says he's a certain middle weight. He, Van Ness, Bartlett, and Crookham would all be right around that next "hole" in the lineup when their time to go to college comes.
No idea. I've seen him projected at 133-141 and at 157-165. Which tells me nobody else knows either. That's OK, he's just a soph. And lot of our guys are up 2+ weights from their HS senior years.
Could be wrong but don't think we have to worry about Bartlett -- as in, not gonna happen. Have heard nothing about any interest with PSU, but have heard with other schools (particularly Ivy).
FRL guys seem really in the "Bartlett is in the Ivy League in college" boat as well.
Thanks for the info, and for always posting/replying/adding to the board.
Sasso had issues his "junior" year. He was also good friends with Chlebove who he worked out with. We know Jullian had his issues.
It was pretty much known that Sasso had gotten his act together going into his senior year. From what I was told Penn State didn't even approach him before he committed to Ohio State.
What I don't understand is there were concerns about Teasdale his "senior" year and that did not prevent Cael from going after Gavin.
I wonder if Sasso situation was influenced by Cael belief in Verk and Berge which is justified.
I hope it wasn't for Cael not wanting him for a bad decision his junior year. I wonder if it was influenced by the last big recruit Penn State had from Lehigh Valley, Tim Darling who was from Nazareth. Darling left Penn State about the same time Cael was hired. About a month later he was charged with forging prescriptions. Maybe Cael didn't want to take a chance on Sasso.
I think Sasso will be 4 x AA. I wish he was wrestling for PSU instead of our biggest rival.
125 was a need weight. 149 was not. From a risk taking perspective, that seems pretty straight forward.
Can't imagine Cael used Darling's 10 year old transgressions against Sasso. Or that Darling even crossed Cael's mind once. Cael wasn't deterred by Robbie Howard attending the same school as Suriano..
You are way over thinking this and sound like my old man on one of his "woe is me, everybody looks down on us" jags. Must be indigenous to the Lehigh Valley. (BTW, this is attempted humor and, like all attempted good humor, has a sliver of underlying truth to it)
I also wish that he was wrestling for PSU but fully understand why he isn't and as I posted above, no harm, no foul, all parties are in a good spot.
I never thought Teasdale would make 125 in college. Gavin was having trouble making it in high school. Supposedly that was some of his issues his senior year, in what he was doing to make weight. That's not my conjecture,but what I was told by high school coach that had some inside info. For time frame it was over the holiday season of Gavin's senior year.
Cael already had RBY at 133. That doesn't seem like he was recruited for a need. He doesn't beat RBY and too small for 141. Maybe they actually thought they could get him down 125. Weight cut for light weights is brutal and sometimes impossible with body fat rules.
So it's you and Cael's feeling, Verk is better than Sasso.
I'll take Sasso.
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