Who else will leave Cornell with Koll gone?

[SRATH]

Keep Stanford Wrestling raised $12.5M as of 6 weeks ago.

Olympic gold: 'Keep Stanford Wrestling' aims to save program

Shane Griffith recently captured the 165-pound title at the NCAA wrestling championships wearing a black singlet...

www.usatoday.com

KSW told donors that the pledges were eligible for University matching, which would put the total potentially in the $25M range.

Pretty amazing......tough to turn down an opportunity like that. I doubt he will have troubling finding good assistants who would want to enjoy the great weather and have those resources available.

Good for them.

 

[PSU Mike]

I have lived in LA and visited Stanford. My best friend went to Cornell Law. Ithaca is beautiful, but it is insanely cold there from December until March. By contrast, Palo Alto is beautiful every day and right in the heart of a place which is unbelievably beautiful year round. And with Cael 4000 miles away it should be a heck of a lot easier to recruit the elite wrestlers on the West Coast.

It’s not 4000 miles because PSU is in the Midwest...

 

[RealMicah]

So Zain is a three time national champ and hodge award winner. Did he regress since hanging up his Penn State singlet?

Not saying he regressed. Just saying Nick has jumped levels and I’m not doubting I’m his ability.

 

[El-Jefe]

Pretty amazing......tough to turn down an opportunity like that. I doubt he will have troubling finding good assistants who would want to enjoy the great weather and have those resources available.

Good for them.

He doesn't have to look at all.

IDK if Blake or Tirapelle would be willing to return under these circumstances, but retaining them would be a strong gesture that might buy a lot of good will with the alumni.

 

[michnit]

Hey....he is 1 for 2. So is a coin flip.

Now I don’t know anything about Mineo, but making these kinds of prognostications is not like flipping a coin- let’s be a little realistic here.

 

[PSU_Pride_93]

So Zain is a three time national champ and hodge award winner. Did he regress since hanging up his Penn State singlet?

You are comparing apples to oranges. Freestyle and folk are different. Domestically sure Zain has won his accolades in freestyle however this 3 time NC and Hodge winner has not necessarily translated well to the international level over seas

 

[El-Jefe]

Koll episode of Baschamania now on YouTube:

 

[nitlion6]

Fine, I'll stick to freestyle. Did Van Ness surpass Saunders?

The point is still the same: words need to mean something. "Surpassed" means that from here out Nick should beat Zain regularly and that Zain beating Nick would be an upset. Anyone really believe that?

Actually I believe that is close to how it is. I will be surprised if Nick does not beat Zain on a regular basis as we move forward.

 

[nitlion6]

Ive been to Palo Alto PA in the winter, working outside. It sucked. Bad.

I would have thought you would have stayed in the "on site" trailor digesting geo data and let the other guys gather the data for you.

 

[McScoreley]

A lot of people went with the Zain and Yianni didn't care about the back side of the bracket. Why did Nick then? Did Nick enter that tournament with the goal of placing 3rd? I don't think he did. I think he wanted that Olympic spot every bit as much as anyone else. J'Den and Molinaro won their spots from the 9th seed in 2016. Why couldn't Nick do something like that? They could have forfeited out if they really didn't care, plenty of other wrestlers did that.

Also, Yianni sure looked like he cared when fought back when his back was against the wall down 8-0 and wrestled evenly the 2nd half but the hole was too large to come back from.

 

[Dogwelder]

All part of The Plan in that it gives us a larger presence and leg up on the west coast recruits, 98% of whom who can’t gain admission into Stanford. 😄

You are a genius! Nolf can tell every recruit: “Stanford offers what’s best for you, but if you can’t get into Stanford, then you’ll just have to go with second best : Penn State.”

 

[diggerpup]

Keep Stanford Wrestling raised $12.5M as of 6 weeks ago.

Olympic gold: 'Keep Stanford Wrestling' aims to save program

Shane Griffith recently captured the 165-pound title at the NCAA wrestling championships wearing a black singlet...

www.usatoday.com

KSW told donors that the pledges were eligible for University matching, which would put the total potentially in the $25M range.

Shit.
Stanford is on our heels.
We're gonna have to juice up the Slush Fund.

 

[Dogwelder]

Agree--maybe Koll knows something???

That sounds right to me. I don’t understand the presumption that just because Stanford tried to cancel a sport(s), that means the sport(s) are likely close to re-death. Somebody else can presume that since they brought the sport(s) back, the sport(s) are stronger than ever. We just don’t know, especially because Stanford is a private school and is rich as hell. Only an insider can tell us enough for us to give an educated guess instead of a wild, arbitrary guess.

 

[McScoreley]

Highly recommend listening to the Koll interview. I was blown away by how much I liked him. It could just be an act but man he is a salesman personified. Stanford made a slam dunk hire with him. He was pretty unfiltered at parts yet somehow made me laugh. He jokingly called the Max Dean transfer "Andrew Long on steroids" 😂

 

[7brwnpsu]

Pretty amazing......tough to turn down an opportunity like that. I doubt he will have troubling finding good assistants who would want to enjoy the great weather and have those resources available.

Good for them.

As I mentioned before, I made a pledge to save the team. SCRATH, thanks for the total number. I can now brag that my donation was .000002 of the total.

I think my work is done here! 🍾

 

[1032004]

Highly recommend listening to the Koll interview. I was blown away by how much I liked him. It could just be an act but man he is a salesman personified. Stanford made a slam dunk hire with him. He was pretty unfiltered at parts yet somehow made me laugh. He jokingly called the Max Dean transfer "Andrew Long on steroids" 😂

What is that supposed to mean? Is Max Dean a murderer or something?

But anyway, I saw someone (I think you) post in the Dean thread that Koll wasn’t happy that Dean would transfer “because of things he couldn’t control.” Does that mean covid stuff likely wasn’t part of Koll’s decision?

 

[PAgeologist]

I would have thought you would have stayed in the "on site" trailor digesting geo data and let the other guys gather the data for you.

I was the gatherer. Plus we don't get a trailer. It was a fun job, just lousy weather.

 

[El-Jefe]

Highly recommend listening to the Koll interview. I was blown away by how much I liked him. It could just be an act but man he is a salesman personified. Stanford made a slam dunk hire with him. He was pretty unfiltered at parts yet somehow made me laugh. He jokingly called the Max Dean transfer "Andrew Long on steroids" 😂

That comment will go nuclear on HR -- combines two of their favorite topics.

 

[Eyecatcher]

Highly recommend listening to the Koll interview. I was blown away by how much I liked him. It could just be an act but man he is a salesman personified. Stanford made a slam dunk hire with him. He was pretty unfiltered at parts yet somehow made me laugh. He jokingly called the Max Dean transfer "Andrew Long on steroids" 😂

I’ll never like that smarmy bastard.

 

[NothingMeaningful]

I have lived in LA and visited Stanford. My best friend went to Cornell Law. Ithaca is beautiful, but it is insanely cold there from December until March. By contrast, Palo Alto is beautiful every day and right in the heart of a place which is unbelievably beautiful year round. And with Cael 4000 miles away it should be a heck of a lot easier to recruit the elite wrestlers on the West Coast.

Ithaca is insanely nice from May into October, and I have fond memories of walking across campus at night in the snow. I find Palo Alto and the surrounding area (despite the great road cycling) to be depressingly brown all year.

Did Cael move to Greenland or something?

 

[NothingMeaningful]

is there a chance Cornell cancels winter sports 2021??

No. Why would you think that? Cornell and the Ivy schools have already restarted Spring sports (Crew, etc.).

 

[PSUer1989]

No. Why would you think that? Cornell and the Ivy schools have already restarted Spring sports (Crew, etc.).

They didn’t restart spring sports (at least crew). Brown and Princeton had a season, because their administrations allowed them to compete against teams within 40 miles from their campus. No other Ivy school had a crew season. Both Brown and Princeton made the NCAA tournament this past weekend. Brown finished 8th, behind only Power 5 schools, after only three races. I was down there in the brutal heat cheering on my niece and the rest of the Bruno squad. It was amazing!

 

[7brwnpsu]

Brown's men and women's crew are damn good. Often they are on the Olympic team. It amazed me that years back, when school opened up in August, the crew team always had posters up trying to recruit good athletes just stepping on campus.

With crew exploding in the number of high schools I'm sure that is changing.

I had a friend who years ago was a good high school football player from a non affluent Pittsburgh area school. Penn recruit him for crew. He never did it before and he couldn't swim he said. He took the offer, left football as the aid based on family income made Penn a bargain.

 

[Dogwelder]

Brown's men and women's crew are damn good. Often they are on the Olympic team.

They should recruit the Loughlin girl. She’s fuzzy headed but a deceptively great athlete!

 

[SRATH]

I get the sense Koll doesn't worry about personalities, fit etc. If guys beat to their own drum, fine. The comments about the lack of fans are interesting. They are well represented at nationals but their home matches seem like snorefests. PSU should be heading to Ithaca on occasion and more importantly, Cornell should be a BJC item. It is how you grow the sport and would be good for both schools.

Likeable guy if you can make that call from a Baschfest

 

[PSUer1989]

Brown couldn’t train together until spring time, where as the Power Five schools were training and competing all year. My niece and her boyfriend (men’s crew) trained in my sisters garage all winter, with no promise they would get a chance to compete their senior season. The men finished 10th in IRAs, held in NJ.

 

[NothingMeaningful]

They didn’t restart spring sports (at least crew). Brown and Princeton had a season, because their administrations allowed them to compete against teams within 40 miles from their campus. No other Ivy school had a crew season. Both Brown and Princeton made the NCAA tournament this past weekend. Brown finished 8th, behind only Power 5 schools, after only three races. I was down there in the brutal heat cheering on my niece and the rest of the Bruno squad. It was amazing!

Huh.

ITHACA, N.Y. – The No. 15-ranked Cornell men's heavyweight rowing team is set to conclude its season when it begins competition at the 2021 Intercollegiate Rowing Association (IRA) National Championship on Friday, May 28 on Mercer Lake in West Windsor, N.J. Competition will run through Saturday, May 29.

Cornell is one of 40 programs fielding at least one boat in the competition, with 31 crews entered into the varsity eight championship. The Big Red will travel a varsity eight, a second varsity eight and a varsity four.

IRA National Championship Schedule

results.regattatiming.com

I see Brown, Princeton, Dartmouth, Cornell, and Penn in the results.

 

[Dogwelder]

Fake news infects BWI!

 

[PSUer1989]

Huh.

ITHACA, N.Y. – The No. 15-ranked Cornell men's heavyweight rowing team is set to conclude its season when it begins competition at the 2021 Intercollegiate Rowing Association (IRA) National Championship on Friday, May 28 on Mercer Lake in West Windsor, N.J. Competition will run through Saturday, May 29.

Cornell is one of 40 programs fielding at least one boat in the competition, with 31 crews entered into the varsity eight championship. The Big Red will travel a varsity eight, a second varsity eight and a varsity four.

IRA National Championship Schedule

results.regattatiming.com

I see Brown, Princeton, Dartmouth, Cornell, and Penn in the results.

Yes, that is IRA’s, not NCAAs (women are NCAA sanctioned but the men are under the IRA-Intercollegiate Rowing Association). The IRA is not relevant to the cancellation of an NCAA season. Also, as I stated above, IVY teams had very few competitions before the championships, restrictions due to COVID. There was no official sanction from the league, thus no Ivy Championship this season for men or women.

 

[El-Jefe]

Yes, that is IRA’s, not NCAAs (women are NCAA sanctioned but the men are under the IRA-Intercollegiate Rowing Association). The IRA is not relevant to the cancellation of an NCAA season. Also, as I stated above, IVY teams had very few competitions before the championships, restrictions due to COVID. There was no official sanction from the league, thus no Ivy Championship this season for men or women.

So what you're saying is that's the National Duals of crew?

 

[STAND with PRIDE]

Fine, I'll stick to freestyle. Did Van Ness surpass Saunders?

The point is still the same: words need to mean something. "Surpassed" means that from here out Nick should beat Zain regularly and that Zain beating Nick would be an upset. Anyone really believe that?

I would pick Nick Lee 6 out of 10 times.
If there were a “most improved USA wrestling FS award,“ it would have to go to Nick lee, he‘s knocked off more than just Zain in the past year.

 

[dunkej01]

I would put $ on a dual with cornell,now, before one with stanford.

And it would be a lol schedule release moment.

 

[jsn4388]

I would pick Nick Lee 6 out of 10 times.
If there were a “most improved USA wrestling FS award,“ it would have to go to Nick lee, he‘s knocked off more than just Zain in the past year.

I don't know if I would go that far without any further data. I would be more confident if Nick and Zain go at it the best of 3, a la Yianni Diakomihalis.

​

 

[McScoreley]

Bombshell on "First Word":

He said Nolf isn't likely going to Stanford but Cenzo very well could. Koll joked about it on Baschamania but off the camera, it is in the discussion.

 

[SRATH]

I don't know if I would go that far without any further data. I would be more confident if Nick and Zain go at it the best of 3, a la Yianni Diakomihalis.

​

Despite winning the NC, Nick's run at the Trials probably wasn't on anyone's radar....except for Nick. He certainly appears to have transitioned to freestyle fairly easily.

 

[McScoreley]

Despite winning the NC, Nick's run at the Trials probably wasn't on anyone's radar....except for Nick. He certainly appears to have transitioned to freestyle fairly easily.

I tbh wasn't too surprised. People forgot about the run he had to qualify for Olympic Trials. He teched Molinaro and comfortably beat Eierman. I didn't think he was far from the top pack at all.

 

[GogglesPaizano]

I would pick Nick Lee 6 out of 10 times.
If there were a “most improved USA wrestling FS award,“ it would have to go to Nick lee, he‘s knocked off more than just Zain in the past year.

Pretty shocking, there are not that many Zain defenders. He hasn't been gone that long.

I won't take anything away from Nick. He continues to jump levels, and this past year was a thing of beauty.

That said Zain is pretty close to being our GOAT, 2 time (should have been 3) Hodge.. the most consistently dominant PSU folk wrestler ever on a level with DT. For three years I had no doubt he was going to win every match.

Put me in the camp that for whatever reason Zain was far from at the top of his game that weekend. I have my "it takes 3 years" for Free rule which makes Nick's accomplishment even more impressive, but Zain was not Zain like.

Until I see it again I think Zane wins 2 of 3 consistently. I have no issue with being proven wrong.

 

[pawrestlersintn]

Brown couldn’t train together until spring time, where as the Power Five schools were training and competing all year. My niece and her boyfriend (men’s crew) trained in my sisters garage all winter, with no promise they would get a chance to compete their senior season. The men finished 10th in IRAs, held in NJ.

They got in water in New Jersey?

I kid, I kid.

 

[CurtisLoew40]

Mineo MUST be paying his informant. If not, why wouldnt the source just tweet the big news himself?

Because most of the time it’s someone who is supposed to be trusted with the information. Rats

 

[Rhino80]

On Willie's show he talked a lot about the AD at Cornell's contract being up next year. Koll and he are friends. Speculation that the FLCC avenue of getting wrestlers into Cornell is about to end. That will decimate them if its true.