Some people want to redshirt everyone, lol. They would have redshirted Lavar for Gods sake..
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Who will be our next recruit?
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Ur welcome. It's a fine line between taking what is made known by the coaches and the recruits themselves and either objectively summarizing it, or taking it and injecting either disillusion optimism or paranoid pessimism into it...... Then when you add the comments here from career bull shitters the discussion can really be incoherent...... I have a few of those I consider incoherent "ignored", but it can still be a challenge to sort things out.....
I have seen Sanders in person and my best guess is that he is the "Blair Thomas" freshman that complements Barkley, similar to the way BT complemented DJ Dozier during BT's freshman year. I'm hoping Sanders returns kicks and takes our kick returns from being a weakness to a strength (no disrespect to Farmer, as when he was not hurt he seemed to be better than what we have seen the last 5 years...). And then Robinson and Sanders each get 3-8 carries a game, and if Barkley gets nicked up we don't miss a beat. The wild card is Robinson. If he is as powerful as has been reported maybe we see him with a 2 back set at times, although that would seem to be out of character for our new OC. Honestly, I don't see the 3 RS soph RB's (Thomas, Scott, and Allen) seeing much of the field. They could not seem to contribute on special teams, outside of Scott having limited success returning kicks and I believe covering kicks. Allen got a try as a punt returner but did not look like a punt returner to me.
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I may be wrong, but I thought I read somewhere that he sometimes uses two backs but usually moves one into a slot position. And as far as kick returns go, the blocking
will have to improve for Sanders to be a force in that area.
He does. I watched every bit of film I could get on him. I was the most hardcore against the hire, and he is slowly winning me over. I have seen two back sets on various occasions, and I can easily see a Barkley/Robinson or Barkley/Sanders combination. Also, I don't think we are going to throw the ball more than 30 times per game, any game, from what I see. I love what I see so far, as I have said all along with our situation we need to control the ball more.
That is because you shoot off with emotion instead of actually looking at things first.
This is BS! Historically, Penn State never recruited better than tOSU and Michigan, but there is no reason why Penn State couldn't recruit ahead of them. They are comparable in stature and facilities, it will just require proven on field performance and well execited recruiting.
Do I think Penn State will out recruit Alabama, USC, Texas, or Florida State on a regular basis... no, I don't.
And we don't need to out recruit them to beat them (Alabama, USC, Texas, or Florida State), when 20-35% of their recruits either don't qualify or get into trouble and leave. We just need a modern version of Joe's Grand Experiment, where PSU still focuses on players that still value the education, support system and overall value of the PSU college experience.
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We better recruit close to even with them. Otherwise we will seldom win the B1G east. Maybe a fluke year out of every 20 like Iowa this year.
We're top 5 in attendance. Probably top 5 in ticket prices. Probably top 10 in coaching staff salaries. Something's wrong if that can't even get us to top 2 or 3 in the B1G recruiting.
I doubt 20-35% of Michigan and OSU recruits don't qualify. We are not talking about the SEC. Just remember Joe's grand experiment wasn't winning with less talent. He had several classes that were #1 in their day. Bottom line is that we do need to out recruit them to beat them. If you are happy with an East title every ten years or so then top 20 classes will suffice.
Agree that we need to pick up the pace. Like what Franklin has done so far.
One of the other foundations with good teams tends to be the stability of a very strong local recruiting area.
Many top ten teams tend to be located in talent rich areas and they tend to build off of that base. Traditional examples include USC, Texas, OhSt, FSU, FL, LSU and other SEC teams.
Michigan is a bit of an exception, but they've been able to feed off of Chicago and a number of Northern & Midwest states. They've also recruited nationally, better than many schools.
PSU once had a much stronger WPIAL feeding more quality players to the Nittany Lions. Now PSU must build on the cream of PA and continue to strengthen links into surrounding areas like NJ, MD, NE, VA/DC.
Here's hoping CJF's innovative recruiting will pay off, like his camps in GA. Looking forward to seeing results from staffs' inroads into hotbed Charter schools like we've seen in FL.
Time will tell.
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It's been about 7 years since Michigan has signed a kid who didn't qualify. Michigan has stopped recruiting kids because of grades and even had a couple kids who verballed who the staff had had to tell to look elsewhere but the last time we had a kid sign a letter of intent and not qualify was under Rich Rod who thought he was still recruiting to WVU.
Don't qualify or get into trouble and leave. Those schools (Alabama, USC, Texas, or Florida State) have attrition that is higher than what ours had been under JoePa and I'm hoping CJF can keep up the diligent analysis of family, commitment to education,... character issues that have in the past resulted in less attrition at PSU than at many other high profile schools
I come in peace but dude...I don't seem to remember ESPN's Outside The Lines doing a show on how many of our players were getting arrested like they did with you. Don't get me wrong, Michigan has had kids get in trouble here and there but your assertion PSU has had way fewer problems is simply funny.
You are REALLY going to cite an ESPN piece?
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Check around.....someone must be having a post-holiday sale on "clues".
You are doing some imaginary reading. Is there something in what I posted that refers to Michigan?? Notice the schools in bold?? Who cares what ESPN did or did not do? Please don't respond to my posts by misdirecting my comments towards your school.
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OK....you've done your research - of course.
Name 5 serious "arrests" that stand out in your mind.
We'll leave the light on for ya'.
How do you want to qualify "serious"...how about arrested for a felony? Didn't you have 6 (which is more than 5) players arrested on felony charges for the whole appartment complex thing 7 or 8 years ago?
He loves involving Michigan and himself in all kinds of threads here. Very weird actually
"It's interesting that you include Kraft Macaroni and Cheese as one of your favorite boxed dinners, but did you know that the University of Michigan's version of Macaroni and Cheese, is better than Kraft, or any other version?"
---Ellobo the Michigan Shill/Troll---
If you are inferring that there will be no redshirts and thus, no 5th year kids, I think you are wrong.
He has been waiting for a Penn State offer. His girlfriend goes to Penn State. May grow into a linebacker or tight end.
Why is this a dumb post? I'm not saying that Penn State will outrecruit tOSU or Michigan, I'm saying that it is certainly possible for Penn State to outrecruit them. I guess you could disagree, but saying something is possible really isn't going out on a huge limb.
We are basically recruiting at their level now. No reason that should change.
I responded to someone else who said that Penn State couldn't out recruit tOSU and Michigan, I made the point of saying that while Penn State may not have outrecruited them in the past, there is no reason why CJF can't change that. Historically, as in pre CJF, Penn State hasn't recruited with the very top of the college football world. JoePa recruited well, and great at times, but mostly he made sure the sum was greater then the parts.
