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Will SVN make the line up next year?

Let him go 149 and allow Bartlett to RS next year. The following season Bartlett at 141 and Van Ness at 149 if they can hold weight. Otherwise bump them up in the lineup to 149/157.

It will kill me waiting another year, but I like a RS for Beau next year if we hope to have him replace Nick at 141 thereafter. A full year at 149 might make that decent difficult. I do not necessarily subscribe to the kids are done growing at 19 axiom.
 
Be so cool if cael had an alternate personality for the boards and used it to just make a mess of the boards for personal enjoyment.

@Scryed
@jamming
@johnstonsteel
@21Guns.
@Chainsawcity

#hesupintheroomnow
#onthelaptop
#laughinghisballsoff
Ha!
Cael is grateful. Roar is grateful.
Cael has zingers. Jefe has zingers.
Cael knows what he wants. Lionlover knows what he wants.
Cael has family values. Stand has family values.

The only poster who can’t be Cael is Tikk because “when would Cael have learned law?”

:)
 
Ha!
Cael is grateful. Roar is grateful.
Cael has zingers. Jefe has zingers.
Cael knows what he wants. Lionlover knows what he wants.
Cael has family values. Stand has family values.

The only poster who can’t be Cael is Tikk because “when would Cael have learned law?”

:)
well, does he take great photo's??
 
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I am not tossing the towel on Joe Lee. He is going to vastly improve on bottom and understand angles better on his feet by next year. Head scratching losses become dominate wins and his RSFR year problems fade with each victory. I liked what I saw last year more than I like what I have seen from him this year, but this has been a weird year and for all we know Joe has struggled with injury or sickness all year.
 
Be so cool if cael had an alternate personality for the boards and used it to just make a mess of the boards for personal enjoyment.

@Scryed
@jamming
@johnstonsteel
@21Guns.
@Chainsawcity

#hesupintheroomnow
#onthelaptop
#laughinghisballsoff
Hopefully not Pierre Delecto or worse yet Client 9.

Would be funny if Cael went full heel. Not weasel heel like Jammen. Think more like Hate State Hawk.
 
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I guess I just sort of assumed you were Cael? Proves what they say about assuming I suppose.
Jefe can't be Cael. Jefe's wife doesn't allow him to attend NCAAs. Or Jefe chooses to not attend NCAAs due to marital anniversary sate. Or simply to stay in wife's good graces.
Anyhow, we would notice Cael's absence.
 
I am not tossing the towel on Joe Lee. He is going to vastly improve on bottom and understand angles better on his feet by next year. Head scratching losses become dominate wins and his RSFR year problems fade with each victory. I liked what I saw last year more than I like what I have seen from him this year, but this has been a weird year and for all we know Joe has struggled with injury or sickness all year.
Yeah, I am not ready to throw in the towel with JLee either. We had the patience with Verk for a couple of years, we can do the same for Joe. I do hope he can improve because I am rooting for him. If not, Cody Chittum might be a target (regardless)?
 
I am not tossing the towel on Joe Lee. He is going to vastly improve on bottom and understand angles better on his feet by next year. Head scratching losses become dominate wins and his RSFR year problems fade with each victory. I liked what I saw last year more than I like what I have seen from him this year, but this has been a weird year and for all we know Joe has struggled with injury or sickness all year.

My problem with Joe is that he does stuff that would bother me when my junior high school wrestlers did them. Bad things happen when you do bad things.
 
What if Nick wants to move up? Then we are really F$#@&*d!

That actually works perfectly then. Beau can go 141 and have a full season of experience and wrestle guys his size. I sense we won't have a hole at 141 or 149 next year, whether it's a true freshman SVN at 149 (who gets a real season) or Beau at 141 and Nick at 149.
 
Jefe can't be Cael. Jefe's wife doesn't allow him to attend NCAAs. Or Jefe chooses to not attend NCAAs due to marital anniversary sate. Or simply to stay in wife's good graces.
Anyhow, we would notice Cael's absence.

"No I can't go to the place where you'd be able to verify that Cael and I are both in the same room because.....reasons?" is not overly convincing evidence against, IMO
 
I have it on good authority that Cael not only reads this board daily, but that he has an account (anonymous of course) and posts regularly. In private he will acknowledge that many of "his" best decisions over the years have in fact originated on this very board. :p
....after he confers with Christian Pyles, of course.
 
"No I can't go to the place where you'd be able to verify that Cael and I are both in the same room because.....reasons?" is not overly convincing evidence against, IMO
Jefe’s weak denial that he’s not Cael =

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Theory + a lot of speculation about Manville:
-Time to move past him being a reg in PSU line-up.
-I don't think being a mainstay in the line-up was any priority to MM to begin with.
-School/ROTC and Greco/NLWC may be #1 & #2. Great career in the making.
-He's not part of the 9.9.
-How much folkstyle is on his training menu these days?
-Sure he'd wrestle a spot when the opportunity presents, but if not...... Team player.
-Imagine MM is in a good place. Guessing he's getting what he came here for.

Or, this could all be BS.
 
Way too early for this one but I'll play. I think we could shirt Beau and run with SVN at 149, move Carter down to 165, and bring in Facundo at 174. I know know you don't move a NC down. Maybe. Carter looks small to me, at least 10 lbs by the eye test vs Kemerer. Maybe Kem has a huge cut. More importantly, SVN looks like he may be one of those top 4 guys out of the gate who could serve as a better choice than Beau who is Nick's heir apparent at 141.

I think the above may (way to Prematurely) give us the strongest lineup next year. Yes, I think Carter down a weight is better than Joe and then some, and Facundo will prove to big for 165.

That said I think it is also possible to go a completely other direction.

With Iowa returning the whole friggin team of geriatrics, there is an equal chance we shirt everyone we can RBY, Howard, Beau, SVN, Facundo, and even Brooks and Kerk(?) - I know,
I know you don't shirt National champs. Let Cornell and Michigan chase down the old men.
That said, with this lineup starting in 2022/23 we probably win 3 straight with multiple national champs scattered throughout the lineup.

I would be bummed not to see these kids next year but wow would that build a wave potentially bigger than the last one.
Iowa will lose many of the seniors!
 
Seven years of higher education usually equates to a PhD / M.D. / J.D.

Whereas, Eierman will only end up w/ more tatts.

When he was celebrating Saturday night after winning the semifinal match, was he pointing at the tattoo on his right forearm? It looked like he was mimicking shooting up heroin.
 
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So, SVN was set to wrestle at 132 this year for Blair and we’re projecting him at either 149 or 157 next year?
 
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I am not tossing the towel on Joe Lee. He is going to vastly improve on bottom and understand angles better on his feet by next year. Head scratching losses become dominate wins and his RSFR year problems fade with each victory. I liked what I saw last year more than I like what I have seen from him this year, but this has been a weird year and for all we know Joe has struggled with injury or sickness all year.

I agree, big time!

Just in this past weekend's tourney, we saw Joe Lee almost dominate, but then succumb to a dominant loss himself. Good call on the neutral angles! He really is capable of both dominating and being dominant in that position, in such a way that rematch results could be dominant wins for him instead of dominant wins for the opp, who may have appeared to dominate Joe Lee if you look at the score/result. But upon closer inspection, a dominant-looking loss was really just a few sloppy scramble decisions, or some ill-advised positional stubbornness in refusing to give up a takedown--hardly a dominant win by the opp, who didn't really appear to dominate.

I also agree that both the covid-related janky season and or that knee injury have played significant parts in whether Joe Lee dominates and finds himself on the W or L side of dominant scores
 
The real question is if Van Ness wrestles 149 and wins a national championship, how many more times will a recruit Sasso thread appear?
That would be 4 years after the fact. The equivalent of getting beat by a bunch and scoring late touchdown.
It's never been about Sasso going to Ohio State.
We didn't even recruit him.
Just remember I didn't start this conversation.🤐
 
I agree, big time!

Just in this past weekend's tourney, we saw Joe Lee almost dominate, but then succumb to a dominant loss himself. Good call on the neutral angles! He really is capable of both dominating and being dominant in that position, in such a way that rematch results could be dominant wins for him instead of dominant wins for the opp, who may have appeared to dominate Joe Lee if you look at the score/result. But upon closer inspection, a dominant-looking loss was really just a few sloppy scramble decisions, or some ill-advised positional stubbornness in refusing to give up a takedown--hardly a dominant win by the opp, who didn't really appear to dominate.

I also agree that both the covid-related janky season and or that knee injury have played significant parts in whether Joe Lee dominates and finds himself on the W or L side of dominant scores
You’re really dominating that word today!
 
Theory + a lot of speculation about Manville:
-Time to move past him being a reg in PSU line-up.
-I don't think being a mainstay in the line-up was any priority to MM to begin with.
-School/ROTC and Greco/NLWC may be #1 & #2. Great career in the making.
-He's not part of the 9.9.
-How much folkstyle is on his training menu these days?
-Sure he'd wrestle a spot when the opportunity presents, but if not...... Team player.
-Imagine MM is in a good place. Guessing he's getting what he came here for.

Or, this could all be BS.

Nice post.

I will forever be a Mason Manville fan. Watching him a few years ago scrap at higher weights for the team (and himself) were impressive.

He was like the kid on the football team that always left his helmet on waiting for his turn. I think if he was here 50 years ago, he'd go up in weight and wrestle ISU's Chris Taylor.

I think both fans and posters forgot what these student/athletes go through to be at that level.

I've written about this before, but after a Rec Hall match my buddy and I were slowly walking along Atherton to our car. The match had been over for over 30 minutes. Walking and then passing us was Mason Manville. We recognized him and he slowed to chat. He wrestled up that day, I believe he lost the match but he scrapped until the 3rd period buzzer. He said he needed to get some sleep as he was up almost all night studying for a test. Yet had a high level D1 match that day.

Once he said that, I went from a fan to a fan/admirer of MM. I'm glad he is in the room trying to reach his goals.

He is not the only student/athlete in the room. When you look at the GPAs and graduation rates of Cael guys it is impressive.
 
So, SVN was set to wrestle at 132 this year for Blair and we’re projecting him at either 149 or 157 next year?
What weight did Van Ness wrestle Saunders at a few weeks ago? I thought I saw it listed as mid 140s.
 
I'd hope for Van Ness' sake that he redshirts. There is a big difference between wrestling high school and high level D1 college.

It should be interesting to see where Josh Saunders lands on the High-Level D1 spectrum. Dude:
- is a 3x Mizzou State Champ
- is a Fargo Junior Freestyle Champ, who beat Ridge Lovett in the finals (at 138)
- is a Fargo Cadet Freestyle Champ
- has been in the Cornell room since last Summer, rolling with Yianni & Vito

Speculation ran a couple ways earlier last Fall, as to when/where he would rep Cornell in the starting lineup. Would Yianni bump to 149 to make room for him, or would he be big enough to rep 149 himself? All made moot by Ivies not wrestling.

Rob Koll was on the mic with Bryan Hazard in a recent Spartan RTC event and was very high on Josh Saunders.

And against Van Ness, he appeared to have very little arsenal to score on him.
 
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