I appreciate and respect your insight and experiences, and I have no desire to have an argument with you.
With that said, putting Facundo out there is simply a diversion. We weren't discussing 165, we were discussing 149. We also weren't discussing Cale or Nolf. What I noticed is you do not argue that what I said is incorrect.
As far as some sort of blanket statement that this is becoming HR with the "heeeeeesssss stttttaaaaallllliiiiinnnnnn" bullcrap. I do not recall seeing a singular post that the ISU 184 was stalling, just respect for a well wrestled match with a bit overdo on the "he got lucky" aspect.
People wrestle different styles. Johnson wrestles from neutral constantly moving away from his opponent, as did White. That isn't subjective. Whether it is stalling or not is somewhat subjective, but for the past 45 plus years it is a neutral style I have believed should be called stalling and the color of the singlet has never made any difference in my opinion.
Ditto my friend. I have the utmost respect for this PSU program from the coaches down to the message board warriors like myself. I wasn't throwing Facunda or RBY out there is a diversion as much as just pointing out that we all see what we want (or hope) to see in hotly contested matches. Nobody needs to sell me on SVN being an absolute hammer. There is little doubt that if that young man stays healthy there is greatness in his future. Johnson will never be that type of wrestler. I would compare Johnson to Lewis as far as style. Carter does a lot of chasing in those matches, but he finds a way to win. I think I read too much into it and truly don't want an argument anymore than you do. I wish we could have seen Casey at 141 against PSU because the styles would probably make that a 1 exchange match either way. I think a lot of ISU guys (myself included) are just giddy that we actually have something to talk about again.