Would you rather have Franklin or Harbaugh as head coach?
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A little fact checking please...
You're talking about the class of 2022? And you're saying Nick Singleton was not in the top 115? What is your source for this info?
And perhaps he was overlooked, but what would be a fair ranking for Abdul Carter? (more like the top 15 than the top 115)
I would rather have James Franklin than any other college football coach in the country. That includes Nick Saban and Kirby Smart.
I wonder how Nick Saban would have done if he came to PSU when CJF did? After all Nick Saban was not Nick Saban till he got married to Alabama. He had not so good tenures (Dolphins), average results (MSU) and very good revues.
I too support Coach Franklin and believe that he is the very best fit for PSU Football.
Yeah, Saban was crap at LSU. Took him 4 years to get a title as opposed to 3 at Alabama.
Actually meant to add "at LSU" to good revues. However, I don't see any references to Nick being a crap coach in my post. My point was that talent, tradition, and financial support have an impact on results. Someone recognized Nick's coaching genius, even though he didn’t win every game at MSU. Otherwise he would never have been hired at LSU.
We're pretending Saban wasn't successful at Michigan State or that Penn State is comparable to Michigan State? You know better--Saban and Smart would have dominated here.
NFL tenure means nothing
We have tradition, right? Pretending we don't have "financial support" is nonsense--see what the assistants are paid to start with.
I feel like you refuse to acknowledge Penn State isn't Michigan State in terms of being able to succeed.
Franklin is a really good coach--there's just better coaches. It's okay to admit that and still support Penn State and Franklin. Pretending Franklin is on the level (or better than) Smart takes away any credibility that the poster has. Smart is 5-1 in the playoff with 2 titles. He's younger than Franklin. We literally can't compare them and Georgia under Richt wasn't elite or even close to it. The playoff is expanding to 12 soon--hopefully we get some head to head matchups and Franklin beats him but until then the resumes aren't even close.
You can't say that. We don't know if they would have dominated here. Had Saban stayed at Michigan State and did what he did in the Big Ten (as opposed to the SEC with junior college rules) he would be the unquestioned top coach in history beating Joe. But he did not. He hit the easy button and opted to leave for the cheater's league of southern junior colleges.
Gerry DiNardo was Nick Saban's predecessor at LSU. LSU was a dumpster fire for years prior to DiNardo (who came over from Vandy). When LSU hired Saban, it didn't take much for them to hire a coach. They were hiring road kill at that point.
You’re right about Singleton, I missed him, but Abdul Carter wasn’t in the top 250.
Well, just barely in the top 250 at #232
232 | 14 |  ABDUL CARTER | OLB | Philadelphia, PA La Salle | 6'3" | 230 | Penn State 7/31/21 SIGNED |
My point there is that Carter was MAJORLY under-rated.
I've seen some commentary that he may be one of the best defenders in all of college football this coming season, and I saw enough last year to believe it.
So my overall points are that:
- Penn State is recruiting well
- The 2022 Class ranked #7 according to Rivals, but I don't think I'd trade this class with any other program
- Rivals tends to under-rate PSU recruits, mostly because of their love affair with warmer climates
Ranked #7 recruiting class and finished the season ranked #7….so they’re recruiting well, but not NC recruiting levels.Well, just barely in the top 250 at #232
232
14
ABDUL
CARTER
OLB
Philadelphia, PA
La Salle
6'3"
230
Penn State
7/31/21
SIGNED
My point there is that Carter was MAJORLY under-rated.
I've seen some commentary that he may be one of the best defenders in all of college football this coming season, and I saw enough last year to believe it.
So my overall points are that:
- Penn State is recruiting well
- The 2022 Class ranked #7 according to Rivals, but I don't think I'd trade this class with any other program
- Rivals tends to under-rate PSU recruits, mostly because of their love affair with warmer climates
To clarify, you believe our class is stronger than say Georgia's?Well, just barely in the top 250 at #232
232
14
ABDUL
CARTER
OLB
Philadelphia, PA
La Salle
6'3"
230
Penn State
7/31/21
SIGNED
My point there is that Carter was MAJORLY under-rated.
I've seen some commentary that he may be one of the best defenders in all of college football this coming season, and I saw enough last year to believe it.
So my overall points are that:
- Penn State is recruiting well
- The 2022 Class ranked #7 according to Rivals, but I don't think I'd trade this class with any other program
- Rivals tends to under-rate PSU recruits, mostly because of their love affair with warmer climates
I think he's saying that he's definitely happier with Singleton, Allen, Carter, and Allar thus far. Of the '22 class.
I can't name a single true sophomore/ RS Freshman on UGAs current roster without looking. Means nothing though.
No you contrarian asshat, the discussion is not who is more successful. The title of the thread is who would you rather have? You always talk about reading comprehension, why don't you apply it?
You tried to change the discussion to fit your opinions like you always do.
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Saban had one 9 win season at MSU after having seasons of 6, 6, 7, 6 wins.
I think this one about run its course. Let’s spice it up a bit.
Franklin or the DUZZ.
Franklin or Schiano.
Franklin or Dabo.
Franklin or insert your choice.
Franklin or the DUZZ.
Franklin or Schiano.
Franklin or Dabo.
Franklin or insert your choice.
I call bullshit on you. No one who played D1 or juniors in Canada or U.S. who had serious looks acts the way you do on this board. I bet if I head over to Elite Prospects you're not on there or you were on a pay to play team in Tier III.
Lol acts the way I act? You're right elite athletes rarely are competitive or want to win. They love pretending sports are about "honor"...the hell with winning. Top tier athletes are never arrogant, rude or dismissive of others the deem beneath them in terms of skill or intelligence. Yupp...great athletes are always nice and too stupid to call people out on bullshit like you in this and most threads.
So presuming you were a legit D1 prospect, which I still call bullshit on, you're admitting that you're arrogant, rude and dismissive?
Lest we forget that most junior hockey prospects aren't the brightest bulbs on the tree, which could explain a lot about you.
Or maybe you live vicariously through this board and through watching grown ass men play games to make yourself feel better about your lot in life?
You certainly didn't acquire the ability to chirp like a legit hockey player, that's for certain.
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Clearly you haven't been paying attention here as I'm very open about my background. The Pat Fitzgerald thread should clearly provide insight to some of my education even if you missed it prior but maybe you're not reading that.
Yes, I'm dismissive of people that lack to ability to use logic and reason. I find no use for them as everything they say comes from a place of emotion as is evidence by your response here. When you want to make it personal I'll drop down to level and respond in kind. The reality is you're not capable of having a rational or intelligent discussion. You're a cheerleader crying over reality being unable to accept that the blue and white world you want to create doesn't exist.
I never even weighed in on the debate. If you are so open, go ahead and let's hear about this high level hockey bio. Give me team names, years played, levels played, draft status, accomplishments, etc., and let's see if you were on a roster.
This is just me spitballing, but IMHO you have no logic or reason. What you have IMHO is some form of mental hang up, whether it be narcissism, oppositional defiance, argumentative defiant conduct disorder, ADHD, or symptoms which fall within the spectrum of antisocial personality disorder.
Your very own comments are evidence of such: "I'm dismissive..." or "I find no use for them..."
You do that in every thread. State your own bullshit, worthless opinion as fact, and dismiss any other thought that isn't consistent with yours.
Your response typical of someone that is purely emotional with the constant attacks simply because you know you're wrong. If you approached this differently I'd gladly have shared everything with you but you're so desperate to be right when you truly know you're wrong that you're
Why would I provide you with anything? I think you're projecting all of your issues on me in a desperate attempt to ignore the actual topic which is Harbaugh is a better coach and we should want the better coach. But you want to pretend there's honor in being mediocre.
Picture whatever you want...I'm not sure that's how you picture people superior to you
I picture this guy every time I read his posts
