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Thoughts after rewatching Minny

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WPB_lion said:
To begin with, I have never said Allar is not a good QB. I believe he will be drafted in the third round and I expressed my opion that he should return for another year because I believe he could develope into a first round pick with a good senior year. I have never said he is not in the mix with top QBs. I just don't think he is a first or second rounder at this point.

As to your condescending BS question about how much football I watch, I watch enough football to know that you are nothing more than a self-proclaimed expert / troll, not an actual expert.

With respect to your comparison to other QBs, Milroe is an apples to oranges comparison. Milroe is ranked ahead of Allar not because of his accuracy, but because of his elite scrambling ability. With respect to Beck, he has likely played himself out of the first round this year as a result of his play so far this year. Thus, if you are comparing Beck's play this year to Allar's play this year, well Beck is simply not playing like a first rounder.

Allar generated 6 points against Ohio State in a home game and we lost the game. He absolutely did not outperform Howard.
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there will be several QBs taken in the first round. Perhaps as many as six. If I am a GM there are several that I question. In general, I am not a big fan of the running QB. I love that some can create, but it is too long of a season for a QB to be putting himself at risk. The super bowl winner will play 20/21 games.

  • Sanders would be my #1 but he plays in a wide open Colorado team coached by his father. I don't think he gets the ability to create in the NFL like he does at Colorado and that is a big part of his appeal. Plus the question of if he can stay healthy
  • Ewers seems to have the best accuracy and touch but at 6-2 and 206 seems small for his 4.7 40 yard dash time.
  • Cam Ward would be my #2 at 6-2 and 220 but his 40 time is also slowish at 4.68
  • Jalen Milroe has done the least with the most in terms of talent but is still up there. He's also 6-2
  • LSU's Nussmeier is also 6-2 and 200 lbs with a 4.75 40. I don't see the talent there to be honest
  • Allar is 6-5 nd 243 with the strongest arm of the pack. He's also anywhere from one to three years younger than the rest. His 40 time is slow but comparable at 4.7
  • Dart is 6-2 and 217 but totally fell apart Saturday. One has to wonder about him.
  • Beck hasn't performed well against good teams. But he is NFL sized at 6-4 but listed slower than Allar at 4.74
  • Gabriel is 5-11. Done. You don't see many under 6 feet successful NFL QBs outside of Drew Brees (6') .
I'd be willing to bet that the scouts go nuts on Allar at the NFL combine and he ends up being a first round pick if he doesn't stay another year.

2025 NFL Draft Prospects: Quarterback – WalterFootball

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Thoughts after rewatching Minny

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WPB_lion said:
I do not disagree with your post. However the Yards Per Attempt was posted in response to my post saying that Allar throws a lot of short, high percentage passes. I believe the Yards Per Catch is a more accurate stat than YPA in analyzing whether Allar is throwing a lot of short, high percentage passes.
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You're incorrect. The almost nonexistent YAC by anyone other than Warren should tip you off on that.
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Thoughts after rewatching Minny

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PSU2UNC said:
YPA does favor a QB with a higher completion percentage but I'd argue it is the better metric.
A QB who goes 1 for 30 but his one completion is for 30 yard has a YPC of 30 but a YPA of 1. A QB who goes 28 of 30 but every pass goes for 9 yards has a YPC of 9 and a YPA of 8.4. I'd think we all agree the second QB is far superior.
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I do not disagree with your post. However the Yards Per Attempt was posted in response to my post saying that Allar throws a lot of short, high percentage passes. I believe the Yards Per Catch is a more accurate stat than YPA in analyzing whether Allar is throwing a lot of short, high percentage passes.
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Thoughts after rewatching Minny

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WPB_lion said:
To begin with, I have never said Allar is not a good QB. I believe he will be drafted in the third round and I expressed my opion that he should return for another year because I believe he could develope into a first round pick with a good senior year. I have never said he is not in the mix with top QBs. I just don't think he is a first or second rounder at this point.

As to your condescending BS question about how much football I watch, I watch enough football to know that you are nothing more than a self-proclaimed expert / troll, not an actual expert.

With respect to your comparison to other QBs, Milroe is an apples to oranges comparison. Milroe is ranked ahead of Allar not because of his accuracy, but because of his elite scrambling ability. With respect to Beck, he has likely played himself out of the first round this year as a result of his play so far this year. Thus, if you are comparing Beck's play this year to Allar's play this year, well Beck is simply not playing like a first rounder.

Allar generated 6 points against Ohio State in a home game and we lost the game. He absolutely did not outperform Howard.
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Did I say you said he wasn't a good QB?
Tell me what weapons he has next year that warrants delaying the second contract a year. Getting to the second deal asap is all that matters. What makes you think we have a QB coach that's going to improve him if you see him as a thirdd rounder currently?

Let's use your Beck example....why came back and risk hurting your stock?
Milroe is ranked higher by who? Mock draft analysts?

Wallace dropped a TD and then play calling cost us another score--is that on Allar? He did outperform Howard.

Again, you claimed he lives on short passes which isn't true. Watch Texas, Miami and Colorado more than you do then tell me who throws the least amount of passes in the group at or behind the LOS
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SEC bloodbath

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OU fan here. Couple of thoughts from my perspective. OU's defense and special teams are stout by any standard. OU's offense has sucked--11 different o-line combinations (eight of top ten o-linemen have missed at least six games), top five WRs out, inconsistent (read bad) QB play, and firing a clueless OC after eight games. As a result, defense has defended more plays than any P5 team. Even after all that, both of OU's lines pushed Bama all over the field on Saturday night.

As to the SEC transition, when we were in the Big 12, I didn't buy the SEC hype. Seeing it now first hand, you will get beat by any SEC team (even Vandy or Kentucky, not sure MSU can beat anyone and Arkansas is spotty) if you don't bring your "A" game. We could win some games in the Big 12 with a "B" effort but can't do that anymore. All that said, even in our worst year in a quarter century, we've beaten two ranked teams--something not everyone can say.

Peace, out.
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Holding at #4 in AP poll

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mgkpsu said:
Well that would be bullshit if someone went from having a home game to away because of aesthetics, especially if those two teams from the same conference had not even played each other earlier in the year. Hoops is a neutral site (generally), so not the same scenario.
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Why would that happen? The only spot that would make a different would be in the 8/9 game and surely the plan would be to swap the 9 seed with the 10 seed. Entirely what I am thinking is that they will potentially switch teams in the 9-12 seed range one spot up or down to avoid rematches or conference matchups.
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Thoughts after rewatching Minny

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LandoComando said:
Your first statement is false. Most QB live on WR screens in the college game. Allar is one of the most accurate intermediate and deep ball passers. Remember we coach to underthrow the deep ball.

Allar outperformed Howard despite his WRs being useless

How much football do you watch outside of Penn State? Watch Ewers Beck and Milroe. If you still don't see why he is in the mix with them then you're not understanding what you're seeing. Honestly if you think Allar throws a lot if short passes you aren't watching much college football.
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To begin with, I have never said Allar is not a good QB. I believe he will be drafted in the third round and I expressed my opion that he should return for another year because I believe he could develope into a first round pick with a good senior year. I have never said he is not in the mix with top QBs. I just don't think he is a first or second rounder at this point.

As to your condescending BS question about how much football I watch, I watch enough football to know that you are nothing more than a self-proclaimed expert / troll, not an actual expert.

With respect to your comparison to other QBs, Milroe is an apples to oranges comparison. Milroe is ranked ahead of Allar not because of his accuracy, but because of his elite scrambling ability. With respect to Beck, he has likely played himself out of the first round this year as a result of his play so far this year. Thus, if you are comparing Beck's play this year to Allar's play this year, well Beck is simply not playing like a first rounder.

Allar generated 6 points against Ohio State in a home game and we lost the game. He absolutely did not outperform Howard.
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Thoughts after rewatching Minny

The Spin Meister
LemonEars said:
Singleton, Allen, and Allar are good players but haven't set the world on fire this year like we hoped. I wonder if that increases the chances that all 3 will be back next year. If so, we could have a better team next season than we have this year. The only players who are locks to hit the draft this year are Warren and Carter.
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Gosh darn it all, LemonEars…. There ya go getting’ me hopes all up again!

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