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js8793 said:

we all have our vices

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Yeah, but that one is taken by Corby.

PurposePitch said:

The IRS is federal, guys.

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You are correct. The state tax agencies perform the IRS type services and would be the enforcement arm of any new state tax exemption laws for NIL.

That was the point that I was trying to make.

☑️ OTHER -- I just feel gratitude to the board management for thoughtfully deploying both an Okie State and an Iowa supervisory poster today to help us through our crushing grief and teach us how to think and feel about this important stuff.

#blessed
#learningtoreadtherulebook
#finallyenlightened

El-Jefe said:

You don't have to play hall monitor.

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we all have our vices

Sportfan2017 said:

Congrats to Wyatt. That said.......If Wyatt is considered the best wrestler in the NCAA.........why was beating Gable such a massive upset?

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“If Carter is the best wrestler in the NCAA, why is winning 5 so impressive?”

98lberEating2Lunches said:

When I read the four criteria, I see them as largely being in ranked order of importance and somewhat as sequential tiebreaker criteria.

It's not a coincidence that only undefeated wrestlers are candidates for the Hodge. That is the first criteria, record, so it needn't be further considered at all.

A mathematical formula already exists for most dominant. It inherently embeds bonus percentage and bonus type. So just use that. Create a scoring method based on the ideal maximum 6.0 and some reasonable minimum like 4.5.

RPI relative to the weight class can be used as the measure of quality of competition. Again, create a scoring method based on RPI compared to the 8 All Americans in the weight class.

Then weight the scoring of dominance and quality of competition equally.

Don't even bother with Sportsmanship unless there is a tie or exigent circumstance.

Pretty sure there's a know nothing about that can gin this up.

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Dominance score (average team points per match):

Starocci: 4.8
Hendrickson: 5.1

Quality of Competiton:

Wins over 2025 AAs: tied at 8

Wins over former AA’s: Hendrickson 5, Starocci 3

Wins over former NCAA Champs: Tied at 2

Former NCAA champs defeated: Hendrickson 2, Starocci 1

There isn’t a statistical case to be made for Starocci based on this season. He was less dominant against with lower quality of competition.

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Something tells me that won’t end well

You know for being the baddest dude on the planet, he's not very intimidating

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El-Jefe said:

Or a micrometer.

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🤏🏻

voltz99 said:

Bleep that. Tax them double.

There is a governing body. The irs

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The state legislature makes the actual laws. The IRS is empowered with enforcing those laws.

mcpat said:

Nope. No deflategate, no taping walk-throughs, no scholarships beyond NCAA limits.

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Let's just ignore the slushfund. The juicing. The tampering.

Congrats to Wyatt. That said.......If Wyatt is considered the best wrestler in the NCAA.........why was beating Gable such a massive upset?

I’m imagining a conversation with a casual or new wrestling fan who heard about some huge upset at NCAAs and wants to know how college wrestling works and why we love it so much. After teaching him the basics, he asks –

Newbie: So, are there any great champions of the sport?

Us: Yes, there are lots.

Newbie: But any that are particularly notable for accomplishing something no one else has?

Us: Well, there’s this one guy named Starocci. He won 5 individual national championships, including 1 with a broken hand and 1 with a significant leg injury. No one in history has or likely ever will match that. He also won 3 Big 10 Conference titles and, aside from 2 losses during his RSFR year, he is undefeated in contested bouts his entire college career and beat a bunch of former national champs, conference champs, and All Americans along the way.

Newbie: Wow, impressive. So, how does the sport recognize its greatest champions?

Us: Well, there’s this award called the Hodge Trophy that is supposed to be given to the best college wrestler each season.

Newbie: That Starocci guy must have won a bunch of those.

Us: No, he never won any Hodge Trophies.

Newbie: Your sport is stupid.

js8793 said:

You would all understand this instantly if the singlets were flipped and deep down, you know that.

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You don't have to play hall monitor.

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District four said:

My question is if past accomplishments shouldn't count for Carter then why are they used in the argument for gable. The whole discussion is bullshit. How do you eliminate past accomplishments in determining the vote if past accomplishments determined the present version of the wrestlers being voted on. Take that back to your Iowa matrix

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We determine the quality of competition in part by past accomplishments. We all have a sense of how good guys are based on seeing them wrestle in the past. Then, you are judged by the quality of guys you beat *this year.*

So, Carter gets credit for beating defending champ Keckeisen because we know Keckeisen is really good because he made multiple finals and won a title. Hendrickson gets credit for beating Schultz, Kerk, and Gable because we know those guys are really good because they’ve all been in the finals and 2 won titles.

What neither gets credit for is their own past accomplishments. Carter doesn’t get credit for winning last year. Carter also doesn’t get credit for beating NCAA champs Mekhi Lewis and Shane Griffith because *that didn’t happen this season.*

You would all understand this instantly if the singlets were flipped and deep down, you know that.

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creamery freak said:

So we're now like the Patriots with Brady, or the Hawk wrestling teams from a few centuries ago, I mean decades ago.

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Its typically not the athletes that put teams into the above mentioned categories, its the obnoxious fan bases

donboy6499 said:

That’s my point.

I think we’re at a point where there’s fatigue setting in, and not going to get anyone on the fence in any matches. Instead, it’s actively rooting against the blue singlet.
Maybe we’re saying the same thing?

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So we're now like the Patriots with Brady, or the Hawk wrestling teams from a few centuries ago, I mean decades ago.