It would be interesting tho. i think he'd be a shoe in for 2nd place at 125. While at 133 his chance of actually winning are a little better but at the same time his chances at finishing second at 133 is a lot tougher. Crazy.
141-149 situation...
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Unintended consequences. The free year was a great idea until now everyone can transfer without sitting out lol. It's wild in football right now. Basketball will be just as bad. It'll be interesting to see how wrestling goes. I'll be happy if some guys not getting time at psu wants to transfer to a certain big12 school lol
RBY to 125? Really?
People shouldn't suffer from offseason boredom in February.
People shouldn't suffer from offseason boredom in February.
RBY at 125?? His body fat now is certainly in single digits. To get down to 125 would be a loss of an additional 7% of body mass. Seriously? This ain't Ethiopia guys. Ya gotta be able to at least take a crap. Wow
Ethiopia? I think you meant Stillwater.
Makes total sense for RBY to now after a few years in college cut to 125.I mean he has to so Bartlett can cut to 133.Cut both the kids to a weight they haven't competed at in years?And to top it all off it's impossible to do since neither guy even certified at those weights.RBY is a 133 and Bartlett a 141
Smith would have RBY cut to 118, even though there isn't even a weight class now.Ethiopia? I think you meant Stillwater.
I would agree that a 133 RBY is a shoe in for 2nd at 125. However, we have no clue how a 125 RBY would perform, but I would bet my house his stamina and strength would be significantly impaired. He just as easily would not be able to hang with the top four even though 125 is pretty weak after Spencer. My money says he wouldn't make the finals. Like others have stated, he isn't certified, and even if so, I don't think he could get there on a proper decent plan by Bigs. One guy moving up and proving himself is the better option. Weights are fickle things in wrestling. For all we know, it would not surprise me that much if Beau ended up being our second or even third best guy at 149.
Still think we might see BB start at 149 this Friday now that he's 4-0 @141. As the recent NCAA Press Release stated very clearly, it is very important that any wrestler go into B1Gs with at least 4 starts at the weight in the event they don't win B1G Championship but finish within B1G's allocation. IOW, if for whatever reason NL couldn't go at 41 and BB goes at 41, it is important he have at least 4 starts at 41 or he could get screwed if he doesn't win B1G Championship. Now that BB has his 4 matches @41 (he's 4-0), I think we might see him make the start at 49.
Frankly, after seeing him do we really think Bartlett could be effective at 149? Obviously talented, but he would be so small. He actually looks on the smaller side of 141.
No, it is stated very clearly that if a wrestler enters a Conference Tournament with less than 4 wins and does not win the Championship, the Conference does not have to award one of their allocated spots to the wrestler even if the wrestler finishes the tournament within the Conference Allocation, including 2nd (which is the actual example given in NCAA release - i.e., a wrestler finishing 2nd does not have to be given a Conference Allocation spot if they don't have 4 starts going into Conference Tournament.).
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My confusion is tied to the weight mapping. In short, do Beau's 4 at 141 do him any good for a spot at 149? Doesn't he still need 4 at 149 which would have to come with the help of the Bigs.
All that aside, what's the rumor mill?
Verk got hurt, then had that tweet that seemed to me to inducate there was more than just his grandfather' passing weighing on his heart right now.
We might be looking Berraclough, Gardner or Beau right now. That changes the calculus, and I think the needle starts pointing much more towards Beau making the climb.
Holy Fu$k. I just read through this entire thread, and all I know is this. Cael is still the coach, and Tom Brady is still the GOAT as of halftime.
This thread needs to stop!!!! RBY 133- Book it! Nick Lee 141- Book it!!! 149 one big cluster F..k! - Book it!
Lee and RBY not changing weights!!! 149- who the hell knows.
Lee and RBY not changing weights!!! 149- who the hell knows.
Hell no. By the 3rd QTR, we will have solved climate change, by the 4th QTR, we'll all be in Iceland.
The title of the thread is pretty obvious, why do you keep visiting this one if you don't like the topic?
Not sure I understand exactly what you're saying. BB would need 4 starts @41, if they ended up needing him there in case NL couldn't go at B1Gs for whatever reason. If the plan is to have BB make a go @49 and be a standby for 41, it makes most sense to have him get the 4 starts @41 before going up to 49 for obvious wgt mgmt reasons. If you're saying he doesn't have time to get 4 starts at 49, I disagree as he could not only wrestle as starter in upcoming duals/tris but can also wrestle "extra matches". Plenty of wrestling left for him to get 4 starts @49 between now and B1Gs.
If BB won’t wrestle 149 in a free year, no way I see him wasting a year of eligibility to wrestle 149 next year.
Agree
I keep going back to what Cael said after the NW match ... unprompted. "... eventually we may need to get both of them (Lee and Bartlett) in the line-up".
In a shortened season like this, 'eventually' can't be far away.
My thoughts exactly. Plus Facunda. What he going to do with both CStar and Brooks only a year ahead of him? I'm assuming he'll try and make 165 and push the other Lee? Good problems to have.
Wrestling this year will not waste a year of eligibility as this is a free year. I wish I had a dime for every time that has been stated on this board. I'd be a rich man.
I think their point is that next year he would probably red shirt if Nick comes back at 141.
Yes, I’d expect BB to redshirt next season regardless of what he does this year. If anybody goes as a true FR In 2022 at 149, I’d expect it to be Van Ness, not BB. BB redshirts in 2022 and takes over 141 in 2023.
Next year we likely face the same dilemma with both Robbie and Nick 'optimal' for 141. The situation is complicated by the entrance of SVN, but I would bet the house that he redshirts.
That leaves the two, who also each have a redshirt to burn. I can't see Nick hanging around for one more year beyond next year so he should be a full green light. Robbie is more interesting.
Maybe (don't hate me) if Iowa wins nationals by 30 points and comes back with the same team fully loaded we could decide to RS Beau and get 4 years straight of him and SVN as our next tag team dynamic duo.
I suspect however, they figure out the who goes 141 and who 149 by June and one starts bulking up over the summer. The Olympics may factor in but under this scenario I like Nick at 149 next year and Beau at 141.
Didn't misunderstand, I just did what I give people grief about all the time. Instead of reading what he wrote (or listening to what he said) I read/heard what I expected to read/hear. Apologies mjmirv.
Side note, what will this year’s freshmen be called next year? Not true freshmen, not redshirt freshmen. Covid freshmen?
You realize that at least for now SVN is smaller than both Beau and Nick.
2020/21 - Nick 141 1000%, 149 is anyone's guess
2021/22 - Beau 141, Nick 149, SVN redshirt
2022/23 - SVN 141, Beau 149
You realize Van Ness is at 138 this year?
That doesn't make him automatically smaller than Bartlett.
Yeah IIRC SVN was projected as 149 and we all remember BoBar saying he was fine with 133 OR 141.
