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2018 Recruiting Thread

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We appear to have 3 safeties in this class in Gordon, Humphries and Miner.
Not sure why JF offered Irving other than he had little a bigger frame. I do wonder if he really wanted T.J. Johnson to move to FS.
 
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Not much buzz from OSU side about Walkers visit. At least so far. The message board comments I've seen have trended towards the pessimistic fwiw.





CorchUrb

MINUTES AGO

Seems like Walkers visit went well. There is talk of him maybe visiting PSU again, which would not be good. Seems like this one is a coin flip at this point


Woodshed
MINUTES AGO

99% of visits go well.

if he visits psu again, he isn't coming to osu.
 
One could only hope that the transfer restrictions would be razed (it would be far past due for the Coaches to "reap what they sow").
The restrictions on allowing a kid to change schools - and sports programs - is fundamentally idiotic and draconian.

Personally though, I don't think the "transfer armageddon" that some anticipate would ever come to pass.
Kids do - despite what the common perception is - in many cases actually have a fondness for the University they attend. And a fondness for the teammates, classmates, and the complete picture that comes with the group they are a part of.

If transfers were a complete open book for the athletes (like they are for the coaches) I don't think there would be the rush to the exits that a lot of folks anticipate.
More transfers? Certainly. But not a "open the floodgates" exodus from all points.
(keep in mind, also, a kid can only transfer to a program that A) has room for him and B) wants him).


I disagree wholeheartedly. I think the stronger players in weaker programs will be courted significantly every single year. If an SEC program has a graduating starter, and the kid behind him isn't meeting expectations, then I fully expect that the coach will be looking for someone who can step in and start, and fill that spot. They aren't going to held back by the quaint concept of having room. They will do what is needed to process, and have the best team on the field every year.

Let's use Pitt for an example. Say they keep one of the local 4-star players at home, like they often do, and that kid excels, but the team blows per usual. You don't think teams are going after that kid, and he isn't going to listen when a powerhouse approaches him and Pitt is looking at another 5 win season? The kid may love Pitt, but the temptations will be very very strong.

I think that rule change will be a disaster. You want to make things equal for players and coaches? Ok, when a coach leaves, the players can leave if they want. They may transfer without penalty. That seems fair. But not every single player, every single year.
 
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I disagree wholeheartedly. I think the stronger players in weaker programs will be courted significantly every single year. If an SEC program has a graduating starter, and the kid behind him isn't meeting expectations, then I fully expect that the coach will be looking for someone who can step in and start, and fill that spot. They aren't going to held back by the quaint concept of having room. They will do what is needed to process, and have the best team on the field every year.

Let's use Pitt for an example. Say they keep one of the local 4-star players at home, like they often do, and that kid excels, but the team blows per usual. You don't think teams are going after that kid, and he isn't going to listen when a powerhouse approaches him and Pitt is looking at another 5 win season? The kid may love Pitt, but the temptations will be very very strong.

I think that rule change will be a disaster. You want to make things equal for players and coaches? Ok, when a coach leaves, the players can leave if they want. They may transfer without penalty. That seems fair. But not every single player, every single year.

How about we make coaches sit out for a year when they "leave early?"
If your contract expires then no penalty.
If you get fired, no penalty.
 
I disagree wholeheartedly. I think the stronger players in weaker programs will be courted significantly every single year. If an SEC program has a graduating starter, and the kid behind him isn't meeting expectations, then I fully expect that the coach will be looking for someone who can step in and start, and fill that spot. They aren't going to held back by the quaint concept of having room. They will do what is needed to process, and have the best team on the field every year.

Let's use Pitt for an example. Say they keep one of the local 4-star players at home, like they often do, and that kid excels, but the team blows per usual. You don't think teams are going after that kid, and he isn't going to listen when a powerhouse approaches him and Pitt is looking at another 5 win season? The kid may love Pitt, but the temptations will be very very strong.

I think that rule change will be a disaster. You want to make things equal for players and coaches? Ok, when a coach leaves, the players can leave if they want. They may transfer without penalty. That seems fair. But not every single player, every single year.
Powerhouse programs will not be allowed to approach student athletes at other schools. Although maybe following on twitter meets the definition of approach (as this is apparently legal in NCAA eyes)
Of course this is not possible to be policed, so your point is valid.
 
One could only hope that the transfer restrictions would be razed (it would be far past due for the Coaches to "reap what they sow").
The restrictions on allowing a kid to change schools - and sports programs - is fundamentally idiotic and draconian.

Personally though, I don't think the "transfer armageddon" that some anticipate would ever come to pass.
Kids do - despite what the common perception is - in many cases actually have a fondness for the University they attend. And a fondness for the teammates, classmates, and the complete picture that comes with the group they are a part of.

If transfers were a complete open book for the athletes (like they are for the coaches) I don't think there would be the rush to the exits that a lot of folks anticipate.
More transfers? Certainly. But not a "open the floodgates" exodus from all points.
(keep in mind, also, a kid can only transfer to a program that A) has room for him and B) wants him).

This will help the big programs and will both hurt and help the lower majors. Just last year, 50 players from mid majors were drafted. Guys that were missed during recruiting, who blow up at a lower program, will have opportunities to move up and fill an immediate need on a major program. It will also make it easier for big programs to process out guys who don't pan out. A third stringer who has been passed on the depth chart by younger players can now transfer and get immediate playing time at a school like pitt. The real losers will be the programs on the low end. They'll lose any guys they get that turn into stars but, they won't get many of the guys processed out of bigger programs.
 
I won't copy them here, but someone on Eleven Warriors summarizes some other pay articles out there about Walker's visit to OSU this weekend. Go down to the comments towards the bottom.


https://www.elevenwarriors.com/foru...art-xxvii-the-home-stretch-thread-20#comments

OSU2002Grad
59 MINUTES AGO

Welp. Had hoped for better news on Walker. It's not the worst news but you really should be feeling like you're the leader after a late official visit like this.
We'll need to hit it out of the park on the offensive line in 2019 with a couple guys ready to play almost immediately.


Bd2999
2 HOURS AGO

He has consistently said that nearness to his parents was a big plus for him. It sounded like the main thing he was looking into. It is a geographical advantage that there is not really anyway to get around.
 
I won't copy them here, but someone on Eleven Warriors summarizes some other pay articles out there about Walker's visit to OSU this weekend. Go down to the comments towards the bottom.


https://www.elevenwarriors.com/foru...art-xxvii-the-home-stretch-thread-20#comments

OSU2002Grad
59 MINUTES AGO

Welp. Had hoped for better news on Walker. It's not the worst news but you really should be feeling like you're the leader after a late official visit like this.
We'll need to hit it out of the park on the offensive line in 2019 with a couple guys ready to play almost immediately.


Bd2999
2 HOURS AGO

He has consistently said that nearness to his parents was a big plus for him. It sounded like the main thing he was looking into. It is a geographical advantage that there is not really anyway to get around.
About as good as you can hope for right now. It is tough to overcome a late OV like this, but hopefully he does make it back to HV one more time.
 
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I won't copy them here, but someone on Eleven Warriors summarizes some other pay articles out there about Walker's visit to OSU this weekend. Go down to the comments towards the bottom.


https://www.elevenwarriors.com/foru...art-xxvii-the-home-stretch-thread-20#comments

OSU2002Grad
59 MINUTES AGO

Welp. Had hoped for better news on Walker. It's not the worst news but you really should be feeling like you're the leader after a late official visit like this.
We'll need to hit it out of the park on the offensive line in 2019 with a couple guys ready to play almost immediately.


Bd2999
2 HOURS AGO

He has consistently said that nearness to his parents was a big plus for him. It sounded like the main thing he was looking into. It is a geographical advantage that there is not really anyway to get around.


Another comment by a duh-oh-high-ya poster....... :


Bafiesta 8 MINUTES AGO
Walker is PSU bound. When a player is more sold on development at one school and feels more comfortable at another they almost always go where they are more comfortable. Unless we can pull a rabbit out of the hat, OL will be the lone miss in this class. As Ludwin pointed out early signing period has gobbled up most of the plan B type recruits and OSU does not do plan C.
 
If I remember correctly no one really had a great read on Walker's visit to PSU either. He may just be a low key guy who keeps to himself a bit.
 
About as good as you can hope for right now. It is tough to overcome a late OV like this, but hopefully he does make it back to HV one more time.

Walker has really had a big ratings bump since his All Star game showing, practice in particular. Up to #60 overall in the 247 composite. If we land Asiedu and Walker at tackle, can't remember a better recruit duo at OT in recent PSU history. JF is really stacking up class after class of blue chippers.

Walker is only scratching the surface of where he could be. He has a high ceiling because of his length and athleticism, and as he gets stronger, he can become a dominant offensive tackle in college. He is good in pass protection, where his technique is solid. Walker is able to slide his feet and use his initial punch to slow down a pass rusher. His length is an asset, and he is patient and does not reach. In the running game, Walker does a good job of getting his hands inside and remaining engaged and driving his legs, but he needs to concentrate on remaining lower. He needs to add upper body strength so he can recover when his technique breaks down. Getting stronger in the lower body will aid his flexibility. -- Brian Dohn
 
Go down to the comments towards the bottom.
I am a bit surprised with the comment about Franklin will tell Walker lies if he (Walker) decides to visit there (PSU) again. Where is this coming from? Or, is it just sour grapes posting since the kid did not commit on the spot to ohowIhate?

To go along with that, I'm having an adult beverage with friends Saturday afternoon and a suckeye fan (he has the distinction of being the main reason I cannot stand their fan base) joins our table. Immediately goes into Franklin's negative recruiting telling the OL that flipped to Clemson that suburban is on the backside of his career. I respond - Seriously? Can't you read? I read the article where the kid put that directly on Dabo!
He follows with - well, LJ is not going anywhere and your staff keeps saying that. No, his son tweeted that. I asked why LJ, Sr didn't say he wasn't retiring? Where's his contract extension.

Has anyone else heard/read of PS being the negative recruiter?

OL
 
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One could only hope that the transfer restrictions would be razed (it would be far past due for the Coaches to "reap what they sow").
The restrictions on allowing a kid to change schools - and sports programs - is fundamentally idiotic and draconian.

Personally though, I don't think the "transfer armageddon" that some anticipate would ever come to pass.
Kids do - despite what the common perception is - in many cases actually have a fondness for the University they attend. And a fondness for the teammates, classmates, and the complete picture that comes with the group they are a part of.

If transfers were a complete open book for the athletes (like they are for the coaches) I don't think there would be the rush to the exits that a lot of folks anticipate.
More transfers? Certainly. But not a "open the floodgates" exodus from all points.
(keep in mind, also, a kid can only transfer to a program that A) has room for him and B) wants him).

I also disagree. Players want to play and they want to play early. I don't think starters would transfer but it would likely decimate any quality depth on your roster. If there was a coaching change, you could see roster's decimated with transfers.
 
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I am a bit surprised with the comment about Franklin will tell Walker lies if he (Walker) decides to visit there (PSU) again. Where is this coming from? Or, is it just sour grapes posting since the kid did not commit on the spot to ohowIhate?

To go along with that, I'm having an adult beverage with friends Saturday afternoon and a suckeye fan (he has the distinction of being the main reason I cannot stand their fan base) joins our table. Immediately goes into Franklin's negative recruiting telling the OL that flipped to Clemson that suburban is on the backside of his career. I respond - Seriously? Can't you read? I read the article where the kid put that directly on Dabo!
He follows with - well, LJ is not going anywhere and your staff keeps saying that. No, his son tweeted that. I asked why LJ, Sr didn't say he wasn't retiring? Where's his contract extension.

Has anyone else heard/read of PS being the negative recruiter?

OL

Every team does this, but you are correct. They blamed CJF for those before it was known that Dabo and LJ Jr said those things. Funny how quickly things change. Now that CJF is hanging with Urban, he now "negatively recruits"... Hilarious.....
 
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I am a bit surprised with the comment about Franklin will tell Walker lies if he (Walker) decides to visit there (PSU) again. Where is this coming from? Or, is it just sour grapes posting since the kid did not commit on the spot to ohowIhate?

OL

Eleven Warriors did an interview with Tyreke Smith, and they specifically asked if Penn State was the one negative recruiting about Larry Johnson retiring. Smith said "No." That hasn't slowed down the Ohio State fans with continuing to push that horseshiat. Whatever.
 
Eleven Warriors did an interview with Tyreke Smith, and they specifically asked if Penn State was the one negative recruiting about Larry Johnson retiring. Smith said "No." That hasn't slowed down the Ohio State fans with continuing to push that horseshiat. Whatever.
Well they used to think PSU pushing grad rates was negative recruiting....so I'm not even sure they know WTF it means. Duzzi should school them on this.
 
I am a bit surprised with the comment about Franklin will tell Walker lies if he (Walker) decides to visit there (PSU) again. Where is this coming from? Or, is it just sour grapes posting since the kid did not commit on the spot to ohowIhate?

To go along with that, I'm having an adult beverage with friends Saturday afternoon and a suckeye fan (he has the distinction of being the main reason I cannot stand their fan base) joins our table. Immediately goes into Franklin's negative recruiting telling the OL that flipped to Clemson that suburban is on the backside of his career. I respond - Seriously? Can't you read? I read the article where the kid put that directly on Dabo!
He follows with - well, LJ is not going anywhere and your staff keeps saying that. No, his son tweeted that. I asked why LJ, Sr didn't say he wasn't retiring? Where's his contract extension.

Has anyone else heard/read of PS being the negative recruiter?

OL
PSU is winning recruiting battles we used to lose. Foul play! How else would someone pick PSU over the great and mighty tOSU?

Yes, there were some fools going after LJSr. But best I can tell those were basically fan posts following LJ’s statement while OSU remained silent.

In the end, seems less like foul play by PSU and more like the purpose of the first amendment on full display. People preach BS, then it typically sinks while the truth frequently settles to the top.
 
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