2021 Line up ?

[PittisLit5959]

I know its early still NCAA's to come but I am new to this wrestling thing and have nobody else to ask. What does our line up look like next year?

125- Meredith/Howard
133- RBY
141- Bartlett ?
149 - Lee ?
157 - Berge
165 - Verkleeren/ Joe Lee ?
174 - Starocci
184 - Brooks
197 - ?
285 - Kerkvliet

Is is possible to see Nick lee move up to get Bartlett in the line up? Again I am new to this and have really enjoyed watching it this year so some insight from you guys would be great. Thanks!

 

[CSauertiegPSU]

My best guess as of today: Howard. RBY, Lee, Verkleeren, Berge/Barraclough, Lee, Starocci, Brooks, Beard, Kerkvleit.

 

[CSauertiegPSU]

Howard having shoulder surgery would change that equation. And I’d bet he starts the year in redshirt either way.

 

[Ian]

125- Meredith/Howard
133- RBY
141- NLee/Bartlett
149 - Verkleeren/Busiello
157 - Berge/
165 - Manville/Joe Lee
174 - Starocci
184 - Brooks
197 - Beard
285 - Kerkvliet/Nevills

 

[Dunkindonuts]

Howard having shoulder surgery would change that equation. And I’d bet he starts the year in redshirt either way.

It was already discussed on here that he is not getting shoulder surgery and does not need shoulder surgery.

 

[Ja1339]

It was already discussed on here that he is not getting shoulder surgery and does not need shoulder surgery.

When you're not selling the delicious cream filled donuts, are you a part-time shoulder surgeon?

 

[johnstownsteel]

I think we get a transfer or two that could change things..

 

[Kale_yeah]

2020/2021 lineup
Eligibility
Howard 125 - fre. Fre
Rby- 133. Jr. Jr
Barrett 141. Fre fre
Lee. 149. Sr. Sr
? 157- if berge healthy than it will be berge if not than any one from 149 thru 165 or a portal guy.
Lee. 165. RFr Jr
Starucci 174. RFr. Sm
Brooks. 184. Sm . Jr
Beard. 197. RFr . Jr
Kerkvliet. Hwt . Fre. Sm
The second yrs are yr out of high school, so 165 and up are ready to roll.

 

[5q]

next year's team has the potential to be in line with the other special years. 174-hwt, plus RBY and Lee at 141 could be something. I wonder if Lee bumps to 149 and Bartlett mans 141, unless Busiello is a big improvement over Verk. for 157, man i hope Berge can go. he could have a big year. Joe Lee vs Manville battle is also something to watch.

 

[5q]

for those that watched Howard over the years, do you think he would be an AA candidate at 125 as a true frosh? (yes i know, if he puts in the work)

 

[Lion8286]

When you're not selling the delicious cream filled donuts, are you a part-time shoulder surgeon?

Don't question gunsie on injury reports. He's right nearly 25% of the time.

 

[82bordeaux]

unless Busiello is a big improvement over Verk.

Don’t sleep on Terrell Barraclough. Just sayin’.

 

[El-Jefe]

for those that watched Howard over the years, do you think he would be an AA candidate at 125 as a true frosh? (yes i know, if he puts in the work)

Yes

 

[El-Jefe]

Don’t sleep on Terrell Barraclough. Just sayin’.

He's definitely ahead of Busiello.

Makes me wonder if he might be the 157 backup option next year.

 

[82bordeaux]

He's definitely ahead of Busiello.

Makes me wonder if he might be the 157 backup option next year.

He definitely told me at the Edinboro open he was planning on working on the weights and going 157 next year. And yes, he’s ahead of Busiello.

 

[PSU210]

next year's team has the potential to be in line with the other special years. 174-hwt, plus RBY and Lee at 141 could be something. I wonder if Lee bumps to 149 and Bartlett mans 141, unless Busiello is a big improvement over Verk. for 157, man i hope Berge can go. he could have a big year. Joe Lee vs Manville battle is also something to watch.

Next year will be good, the following year is THE YEAR

 

[FIGHTSTATE5]

What are the possibilities Berge wrestles down to 149? Isnt that his more natural weight anyway? Lee moving up wouldnt be a bad idea though, thinks he'd mop the map with Sasso, idk about Eirman though.

 

[82bordeaux]

What are the possibilities Berge wrestles down to 149? Isnt that his more natural weight anyway? Lee moving up wouldnt be a bad idea though, thinks he'd mop the map with Sasso, idk about Eirman though.

That’s his unnatural weight. It was too big of a cut in 2019. That ship has sailed.

 

[Grass]

Why doesn't Manville get any love? He did a pretty good job in spot duty last year wrestling up a weight or two.

 

[El-Jefe]

What are the possibilities Berge wrestles down to 149? Isnt that his more natural weight anyway? Lee moving up wouldnt be a bad idea though, thinks he'd mop the map with Sasso, idk about Eirman though.

The reason Berge wrestled so little last year was because he couldn't hold the weight.

We can't ID Nick's weight based on the other teams. He beat Eierman this year, but will Eierman or Murin be the 149? Does Sasso go up to make room for Echemendia? What weight does Yianni go? Just put Nick where he'll be at his best.

 

[diggerpup]

Why doesn't Manville get any love? He did a pretty good job in spot duty last year wrestling up a weight or two.

This.
I wouldn’t mind seeing Manville in the lineup somewhere.

Kid is a warrior and a bruiser. Backs down from no one. Understood he’s prefers Greco, but would love to see him one season at 165.

Would have to figure all the higher level USA Greco tourneys have given him mental toughness & poise as well.

 

[District four]

I know its early still NCAA's to come but I am new to this wrestling thing and have nobody else to ask. What does our line up look like next year?

125- Meredith/Howard
133- RBY
141- Bartlett ?
149 - Lee ?
157 - Berge
165 - Verkleeren/ Joe Lee ?
174 - Starocci
184 - Brooks
197 - ?
285 - Kerkvliet

Is is possible to see Nick lee move up to get Bartlett in the line up? Again I am new to this and have really enjoyed watching it this year so some insight from you guys would be great. Thanks!

Why the ? at 197

 

[District four]

What are the possibilities Berge wrestles down to 149? Isnt that his more natural weight anyway? Lee moving up wouldnt be a bad idea though, thinks he'd mop the map with Sasso, idk about Eirman though.

No way they make him drop to 149 again. I'll be pissed and Im just a fan. He sucked weight all last year and paid for it

 

[diggerpup]

Pure speculation, and just based on observation, but I would not count Berge better than 50/50 probability to continue wrestling.

Head injuries are nothing to fool with.

 

[El-Jefe]

Why doesn't Manville get any love? He did a pretty good job in spot duty last year wrestling up a weight or two.

Lee appears more dynamic. Manville was at 165 into mid-January last year and had 1 bonus win.

The other issue is that, while he's had a number of good losses, he has zero good wins. Lee beat Wentzel and pinned Flynn.

No doubt he's tough as nails. I don't think he'd be a bad starter. I just don't see evidence that he'd be the better starter.

 

[McScoreley]

Honestly - I think Manville loves his gig, between the Army and PSU, I imagine he goes to school for free and I think being a backup 165-184 works well for a guy who wants to focus on Greco probably.

If our guys ever need upper body work a particular week, I bet he's the first person they get paired up with lmao.

 

[Dunkindonuts]

When you're not selling the delicious cream filled donuts, are you a part-time shoulder surgeon?

Hmmm. I got my information about the shoulder on this board from 3 or 4 different posters so perhaps you should ask them and not me? Are you actually hoping one of our young men undergoes a surgery so that another of our young men remain the starter? Geez I hope not.

 

[McScoreley]

Pure speculation, and just based on observation, but I would not count Berge better than 50/50 probability to continue wrestling.

Head injuries are nothing to fool with.

Here's what Brantt (who seems to be in the know) mentioned on 247:

"Berge was not re-injured in his match vs tOSU. He's struggling mentally to recover from what happened before the season started. Physically he's good to go. This is really no surprise since it was a very traumatic incident. Really makes you think."

The important thing is he is physically fine though.

 

[Ja1339]

Hmmm. I got my information about the shoulder on this board from 3 or 4 different posters so perhaps you should ask them and not me? Are you actually hoping one of our young men undergoes a surgery so that another of our young men remain the starter? Geez I hope not.

Nope, not hoping for surgery for anyone, and I'll just root for whoever we send out next year, no matter who that is.

And with all due respect to you and the other 3 or 4 posters, I'd just prefer to wait and hear official news instead of accepting a medical prognosis from folks on here. No reason to doubt you or anyone else, just my opinion.

 

[apoharrow]

125 Schnupp
133 Meredith
141 Obendorfer
149 Busiello
157 Barraclough
165 Lee
174 Carter
184 hoppes
197 Beard
HWT Kerk

Punt Year 3 AA at 74, 97, Hwt.

Would be crazy. Not actually what I think will happen just throwing it out there.

 

[mjmirv]

If we didn’t punt this year, no way we punt next season.

 

[Cowbell Man]

What are the possibilities Berge wrestles down to 149? Isnt that his more natural weight anyway? Lee moving up wouldnt be a bad idea though, thinks he'd mop the map with Sasso, idk about Eirman though.

Why wouldn’t he beat Eierman? He’s done it. The wrestler to consider avoiding and wonder which weight class is .....

Yianni.

 

[BOSCO2]

125 Schnupp
133 Meredith
141 Obendorfer
149 Busiello
157 Barraclough
165 Lee
174 Carter
184 hoppes
197 Beard
HWT Kerk

Punt Year 3 AA at 74, 97, Hwt.

Would be crazy. Not actually what I think will happen just throwing it out there.

That's a blocked punt.

 

[apoharrow]

If we didn’t punt this year, no way we punt next season.

Did you say that at begining of the year with AC Berge and Conel?

 

[David Keller]

Why doesn't Manville get any love? He did a pretty good job in spot duty last year wrestling up a weight or two.

Manville - I think he needs to slim down a bit to be truly effective in Folkstyle

 

[Ian]

Did you say that at begining of the year with AC Berge and Conel?

It was no punt this year with those three healthy. They’ve lost at least 30 points because of injuries. Shak would have gone 184 and Brooks would have RS’d. So with the Conel injury you’re probably looking at a wash or maybe extra points with Brooks in and Conel out. But the other two missing is a net loss of at least 30 pts at nationals.

 

[apoharrow]

It was no punt this year with those three healthy. They’ve lost at least 30 points because of injuries. Shak would have gone 184 and Brooks would have RS’d. So with the Conel injury you’re probably looking at a wash or maybe extra points with Brooks in and Conel out. But the other two missing is a net loss of at least 30 pts at nationals.

Right no way anyone would have said this was a punt year going into the season. Injuries changed everything and heck we are still in it.

 

[Dunkindonuts]

Nope, not hoping for surgery for anyone, and I'll just root for whoever we send out next year, no matter who that is.

And with all due respect to you and the other 3 or 4 posters, I'd just prefer to wait and hear official news instead of accepting a medical prognosis from folks on here. No reason to doubt you or anyone else, just my opinion.

Well ok that's great if there actually is any medical news to wait on. Does anyone have a current, up to date link on surgery for Robbie Howard. I can't find anything current, meaning this month, on the topic. Without anything current I will believe he is healthy.

 

[mjmirv]

My point is more about available redshirts between the 2 seasons. This season we could have redshirted/Olympic redshirted Brooks, RBY, Nick Lee, Hall, Manville, Berge, Verk, Kerkvliet.... and probably Cenzo/Cassar if those two would have qualified for an Olympic redshirt. Plus you could delay the enrollment of Joe Lee and Starocci to keep spacing. Now in 2021 you have way less guys who have an available redshirt and you’ve already started the eligibility clock of the freshman.

I don’t post a lot, but in conversations with friends I advocated for punting this season. Now obviously the wrestlers personal choices have a big say on these decisions and I have no information on that. But from a pure roster/program view I was for punting 2020. Plus you get the enjoyment of Iowa knowing we didn’t even try during their title year.

 

[Kale_yeah]

Why doesn't Manville get any love? He did a pretty good job in spot duty last year wrestling up a weight or two.

Because he is a Greco Roman wrestler, can't get take downs or prevent them and took a year off not to improve that problem.