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2021 Olympic Wrestling Match Thread and USA Wrestlers.

Do you guys just like finding things to complain about? DT did have an easy path so far. The best guy he had is a bumped up fringe medalist at 79kg. Now he has one of the best P4P in the world. Nobody will say he didn't earn gold.

If you actually go over there, you will find 95% of the posters completely on board with Team USA and absolutely gutted for Gilman despite him leaving and saying some weird stuff on the way out. Not much talk about DT overall because he's crushed everybody which was expected. It would be weird if he didn't tech everybody so far lol.

JS...I think Wturk the firefighter has hacked your account
 
Where are you finding the brackets? UWW site?

Nbcolympics.com

Go to Results at the top. Choose Wrestling.

Click on any upcoming match, any weight class women or men. It will bring up results, upcoming matches and the bracket below. At the top, there is a drop down arrow next to the weight class you're viewing. From there you can quickly go to any weight class.

Pretty easy to navigate after a few minutes. Shows the bracket, approx times for upcoming bouts and a link for watching the replay of completed matches. Click on any wrestlers name in a match and it will show you the score. The score it shows in the bracket is Class Points. Not sure what that is.

Can see results/info for every sport there.
 
The worst thing about this board are threads concerned with what's happening on other boards. Taking offense at what random people on other boards are saying about Penn State wrestling/wrestlers only reveals unwarranted insecurity. Let it go.
It's just the interweb forum version of "He touched me.";)
 
Pretty easy to navigate after a few minutes. Shows the bracket, approx times for upcoming bouts and a link for watching the replay of completed matches. Click on any wrestlers name in a match and it will show you the score. The score it shows in the bracket is Class Points. Not sure what that is.

Thank you sir!!!!
 
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The worst thing about this board are threads concerned with what's happening on other boards. Taking offense at what random people on other boards are saying about Penn State wrestling/wrestlers only reveals unwarranted insecurity. Let it go.

I learned fairly quickly that the boards are much more enjoyable when I remember that the Hawkeyes don't need me to defend them on BWI and PSU doesn't need defending on HR.

It's usually pretty obvious who wants to discuss wrestling and who wants to cause drama. A bad take/stupid post doesn't need spotlighted, we already know.

Ignore the BS, engage with the quality posters, and discuss wrestling. Pretty simple stuff...

Oh, and Go Hawks!
 
I learned fairly quickly that the boards are much more enjoyable when I remember that the Hawkeyes don't need me to defend them on BWI and PSU doesn't need defending on HR.

It's usually pretty obvious who wants to discuss wrestling and who wants to cause drama. A bad take/stupid post doesn't need spotlighted, we already know.

Ignore the BS, engage with the quality posters, and discuss wrestling. Pretty simple stuff...

Oh, and Go Hawks!
I come to the wrestling boards for the gifs. The discussion is ancillary entertainment. 😉
 
I went there too as I had a respect for their fan base as true fans of wrestling in general. What I saw was sad. "College before Country" seems to be their motto. That is a bitter, miserable group of so-called "wrestling fans".

They must still be pissed about March 20.

Your problem was thinking there is anything of value on that board. The HR board has the worst fans in all of college sports. Outside of maybe a poster or two none of them know anything about anything. They are hateful and useless.
 
I agree with everything you said--but I'm a little confused by this point--world championships also only send 1 per country, right? The field is generally bigger at worlds than the olympics, but those studs in the stable in the big 3 countries would still be there, right?
86 lacks the depth of other weights. Reichmuth and Punia are not as good as most medalists at other weights. If you look at 57 this year for example, world champion Takahashi won't medal. It's a much deeper weight because the top end talent is better distributed across multiple countries instead of concentrated in a few. The 16 guys in the bracket at 57 this year are much closer to "the 16 best guys in the world" than the 16 at 86.
 
86 lacks the depth of other weights. Reichmuth and Punia are not as good as most medalists at other weights. If you look at 57 this year for example, world champion Takahashi won't medal. It's a much deeper weight because the top end talent is better distributed across multiple countries instead of concentrated in a few. The 16 guys in the bracket at 57 this year are much closer to "the 16 best guys in the world" than the 16 at 86.
so if the best 16 guys arent at 86 how did they get to the olympics??dont give me that weight change crap either!!true only 6 weights but they all know that!!
 
DT would have cut thru the other side of the bracket too. DT and Yaz are a cut above everyone else. He did beat guys with world championship medals. You can’t minimize that DT is proving he is one of the hyper-elite wrestlers on the blue and green marble, no matter where seeded or bracketed. Now go slap your children and kick your dog
Lol so insecure. Of course he would have until the semis when he would have won a more competitive match against Naifonov. Both sides were easy (excluding Naifonov) because most of the top 10 guys in the world are at home right now.

For example, if you use flo's international rankings which are pretty solid, 8 of the top 10 guys at 86 kg are from Russia or USA. That doesn't even include guys like Bo or Ringer. Naifonov did most of the heavy lifting at this weight already by just making the Russian team and knocking out 5 top 10 guys.

DT and Yazdani are clearly the class of the weight (with Naifonov a short rung below), so what we're really talking about is how hard they had to work to get to the finals, which was not very.
 
so if the best 16 guys arent at 86 how did they get to the olympics??dont give me that weight change crap either!!true only 6 weights but they all know that!!
He's saying guys like Bo Nickal, Zahid, and Kurugliev are all probably much better than Punia or Amine. I tend to agree. It is curious though, when you think about why that might be the case at 86, but not at other weights.
 
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so if the best 16 guys arent at 86 how did they get to the olympics??dont give me that weight change crap either!!true only 6 weights but they all know that!!
it's not that complicated. see my recent post.

Is Jordan Burroughs one of the top 16 guys in the world?
 
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so if the best 16 guys arent at 86 how did they get to the olympics??dont give me that weight change crap either!!true only 6 weights but they all know that!!

Because until wrestling is like golf and tennis... All the best guys are not at the weight. As mentioned above both the US and Russia have guys that are ranked in the top 10 and not at the Olympics.

DT and Yazdani are cruising and are a level above the field, period.

Also. just rewatched the Yazdani semi... He ain't beating DT. Unbelievable they haven't fixed the one thing that's totally controllable by the athlete.
 
well then just have the top 16 in olympics dont need any damn wrestle offs!! you win you go you lose your done rankings do not matter the top 16 are never at the olympics
 
JS...I think Wturk the firefighter has hacked your account
Lol, just a little fired up from the wrestling this morning. Can't wait to see DT take out Yazdani tomorrow morning. He looks fantastic.

Going back to an earlier convo about the change in his pace this year, I speculated he might have been staying more fundamental to limit injury exposure knowing he was still good enough to make it to Yazdani anyway. Did anybody else notice Casey yelling "protect yourself" every time he was in a scramble last night? That does seem to have been the mindset. I feel really good about this match.
 
well he got beat!!guess he should have gone to san marino??plus he didnt wrestle 86!
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The worst thing about this board are threads concerned with what's happening on other boards. Taking offense at what random people on other boards are saying about Penn State wrestling/wrestlers only reveals unwarranted insecurity. Let it go.
Whining about Greco vs Whining about HR, as ways to annoy. Who you got? :)
 
86 lacks the depth of other weights. Reichmuth and Punia are not as good as most medalists at other weights. If you look at 57 this year for example, world champion Takahashi won't medal. It's a much deeper weight because the top end talent is better distributed across multiple countries instead of concentrated in a few. The 16 guys in the bracket at 57 this year are much closer to "the 16 best guys in the world" than the 16 at 86.

86kg lacks depth worldwide because (1) everyone is dodging DT & Yazdani ;) and (2) NLWC alone may have 2 of the Top 5 in the world at that weight.


(Only half joking - we know from Yarygin that the Russians have a zillion tough 86'ers)
(Kurugliev is the Russian who was leading DT 1-5 at break in 2018 Worlds semis when DT got kicked in the head & needed to dig down for that epic comeback. Had to be a tough choice between sending Kurugliev or Naifonov for the Ruskies)
 
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86kg lacks depth worldwide because (1) everyone is dodging DT & Yazdani ;) and (2) NLWC alone may have 2 of the Top 5 in the world at that weight.


(Only half joking - we know from Yarygin that the Russians have a zillion tough 86'ers)
Lol imagining guys trying to run from DT and Yaz only to run into Dake, Sidakov, Chamizo or Sadulaev, Snyder, Cox, Mohammadian, etc..

"Operation: Out of the Frying Pan"

Nowhere to hide these days. We are really blessed with the amount of talent right now.
 
I was just over on HR and the delusion is hysterical about the Olympic wrestling. DT had an easy bracket, has a guy that couldn't win an NCAA Championship. A healthy Spencer would cruise through the 57 kg bracket. I do think Spencer could win it, but I don't know about cruising through.
I don’t know about Spencer. I think he could of maybe beat gilman but “run” through 57kg is crazy. That bracket was stacked. 86kg is pretty much a two man show. DT is so good that as long as Yazdani was on the other side then he has an easy draw lol. He’s just that good. 86kg tho isn’t very deep. I’d take multiple US guys, that obviously didn’t make the team, over the guy who had to go represent another country and be lucky enough to lose to the right guy just for a chance at bronze.
79kg is about the same just three guys instead of two.
57 and 65 are insane.
 
Lol imagining guys trying to run from DT and Yaz only to run into Dake, Sidakov, Chamizo or Sadulaev, Snyder, Cox, Mohammadian, etc..

"Operation: Out of the Frying Pan"

Nowhere to hide these days. We are really blessed with the amount of talent right now.

I was mostly joking about wrestlers "dodging" DT & Yazdani.

But I think most sane fans understand the wealth of talent at 86 w/ USA & Russia w/ DT, Bo, Zahid, Ringer, Kurugliev, Naifonov, and about 1/2 dozen other Russians who's names I won't try to spell.
 
I've been thinking about this wrt DT. His goal has been so clear, for so long. Thankful he has a baby on the way and a new business venture to keep him busy (as well as the World Championships, if he chooses), but win or lose, he's bound to feel some letdown.

Then there's Gilman--he seems to have his head straight, but that loss was just so bitter....

 
I was mostly joking about wrestlers "dodging" DT & Yazdani.

But I think most sane fans understand the wealth of talent at 86 w/ USA & Russia w/ DT, Bo, Zahid, Ringer, Kurugliev, Naifonov, and about 1/2 dozen other Russians who's names I won't try to spell.
Yes I know I was joking back.

I would love to see what Bo would do against this field.
 
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DT hasn’t wrestled anyone yet as good as the guys he sees every day…. Note the plural. He looks fantastic. Casey yelling to protect himself is the only way he loses any of those matches, too aggressive and you can lose in an instant with FS.
 
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86 lacks the depth of other weights. Reichmuth and Punia are not as good as most medalists at other weights. If you look at 57 this year for example, world champion Takahashi won't medal. It's a much deeper weight because the top end talent is better distributed across multiple countries instead of concentrated in a few. The 16 guys in the bracket at 57 this year are much closer to "the 16 best guys in the world" than the 16 at 86.
<insert fart noise> DT beat all the US 86’ers too. Not buying the “16 guys at 57 kg” theory. Agree to disagree on that
 
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Because until wrestling is like golf and tennis... All the best guys are not at the weight. As mentioned above both the US and Russia have guys that are ranked in the top 10 and not at the Olympics.

DT and Yazdani are cruising and are a level above the field, period.

Also. just rewatched the Yazdani semi... He ain't beating DT. Unbelievable they haven't fixed the one thing that's totally controllable by the athlete.
I don’t want to be over-optimistic, but I like your thinking. I was wondering the same about Yaz at the end of his last match, why he didn’t go high altitude train to work on that conditioning. I wish the final was same day and that would have def leaned heavier to DT
 
I don’t want to be over-optimistic, but I like your thinking. I was wondering the same about Yaz at the end of his last match, why he didn’t go high altitude train to work on that conditioning. I wish the final was same day and that would have def leaned heavier to DT
I’m guessing he picked the wrong week to quit smoking. I could be totally wrong. :)
 
I don’t want to be over-optimistic, but I like your thinking. I was wondering the same about Yaz at the end of his last match, why he didn’t go high altitude train to work on that conditioning. I wish the final was same day and that would have def leaned heavier to DT
Scroll up to @nerfstate’s last post …
 
<insert fart noise> DT beat all the US 86’ers too. Not buying the “16 guys at 57 kg” theory. Agree to disagree on that
At this point, you're just looking to be offended about something. It was in no way a slight to DT. He would beat all those guys if they were in the bracket.

The point is that because of the distribution of top guys at the weight, his path to make the Olympic team for the US was harder than his path to make the Olympic finals.
 
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I don’t want to be over-optimistic, but I like your thinking. I was wondering the same about Yaz at the end of his last match, why he didn’t go high altitude train to work on that conditioning. I wish the final was same day and that would have def leaned heavier to DT
Iran's national training center is in Tehran, elev 3900 ft.

That's plenty high enough to have a conditioning advantage over someone training in State College.
 
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