good points on top talent being left home. I could be oversimplifying how track and field does it but wouldn't it be nice to take the top 3 qualifiers in each weight from each country? Not sure of the logistics or how the increase in the number of matches would be handled but wouldn't it be nice to see a gold-silver-bronze finish from the same country!
2021 Olympic Wrestling Match Thread and USA Wrestlers.
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"Excuses are for wuss Hawkeye fans."
Spencer should claim he first coined the term and then put it on a tshirt. I'd buy one...
State College is about 1100 ft elevation vs 3900 in Tehran. There is only about a 10% difference in pressure between the two areas, so that probably isn't enough to matter. I think you have to train somewhere around 6000 ft to get a real benefit.
Not too nice! In gymnastics, they specifically changed the rules to preclude gold-silver-bronze to the same country, in favor of at most gold-silver to the same country. In the NCAA, at most there is gold to the same school.
I would be thrilled to talk about them and their idiocy on HR instead of here but for some reason they don't seem to feel the same way.
I don't know, maybe I'm misreading them...
Track and field also has a qualifying time or distance for each event. Not sure how you handle that for wrestling.
I wonder if this has more to do with rhythm/comfort than conditioning. In a typical match, Yazdani gets to his underhook and marches people around. In the 3 matches I've seen him look tired, he's been taken out of that comfort zone. DT made him pay with some scrambles and took him out of rhythm. Naifonov did as good a job as I've seen stopping his underhook. The less he's able to get to it, the more uncomfortable he gets, the more tired he gets. It's not like Naifonov was wrestling a high pace.
So, David should keep an arm behind his back?
Nerfstate, thank you for linking to that tweet from Richard Perry's wife. There is much wisdom in what she wrote. Unfortunately (or maybe fortunately in the grand scheme of things), she and Richard have had to navigate those painful waters to acquire that wisdom. When I first heard of Richard's tragic injury I tried to remember to include he and his family in my prayers, but stopped at some point. Your post has encouraged me to resume praying for Richard, Gina and their beautiful children.
Taylor winning Olympic gold by employing the RBY-DeSanto strategy would be hilarious.
Minus the attempted breaking of limbs because Yazdani is frustrated.
I don't think we have to worry about Casey Cunningham forgetting to mention to DT about Yazdani's underhook.
I'll go out on a limb & guess they have a plan. 🤣
I'll go out on a limb & guess they have a plan. 🤣
Who cares. Doesn't diminish 125 in D1 that competition is a glorified HS state championship.
Dt is wrestling for a gold medal in the freaking Olympics. An Olympics that was in jeopardy for nearly 15 months. If he missed this chance, he may never get another. The pressure he has put on himself is far greater than any competition in this bracket.
Know your opinion is right and let it go.
Let the fire fighting to turk.
It could also be the case that Yazdani is just physically unable to match David's pace, no matter how hard he trains. David's pace for a big man is unparalleled and he is the only wrestler who has been able to completely gas Yazdani (twice). It has to be nerve wracking for Yazdani knowing he might gas again on the World's biggest stage. We will see how both of them handle the mental stress of this match. I expect to see a phenomenal match, and I could see either winning depending on the flow of the match and the potential for a catastrophic mistake, being tossed to their back, etc. I am so excited and nervous for this match!
I would like to see that match. Unsure if TG loses but I probably would bet on him if I had to choose. Of course, stupid idea since Lee isn't wrestling
Maybe dumb question but curious if you are in any way associated with the El-Jefe restaurant. Stopped at one near bay bridge on way to beach last week. Will admit, I only stopped because of you and the name. Oh… and I was hungry.
10 PM tonight start
Gilman Repechage MFS 57KG is match 2 on Mat A,
Dake MFS 74Kg is match 6 on Mat A, Franklin Gomez/Abdurakhmanov Bekzod is match 8
Winchester WFS 53KG is match 5 on Mat B
Steveson MFS 125Kg is match 8 on Mat C
About 630 AM the 57KG bronze medal matches start on Mat B, hopefully with Gilman.
Taylor's Gold medal is match 6 on Mat B, followed by the Maroulis Bronze medal match
Gilman Repechage MFS 57KG is match 2 on Mat A,
Dake MFS 74Kg is match 6 on Mat A, Franklin Gomez/Abdurakhmanov Bekzod is match 8
Winchester WFS 53KG is match 5 on Mat B
Steveson MFS 125Kg is match 8 on Mat C
About 630 AM the 57KG bronze medal matches start on Mat B, hopefully with Gilman.
Taylor's Gold medal is match 6 on Mat B, followed by the Maroulis Bronze medal match
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Any truth to the rumor, El-Jefe, that you sell medicinal peyote from your vehicle, which you call El-Burro?
Bekzod (UZB) is also an NLWC wrestler, also at 65kg, and facing Franklin Gomez in the first around, which is a shame they had to see each other this early. Gomez has had a rough string of Olympics appearances but is always a tough out.
Dawgs way of saying “yes…yes…that’s a dumb question.”Any truth to the rumor, El-Jefe, that you sell medicinal peyote from your vehicle, which you call El-Burro?
Quick favor: Can someone give me a breakdown of the 97 kg brackets from Rio? I’m trying to figure out how difficult Kyle Snyder’s path to gold was. On second thought forget it, I could not possibly care less about the 97 kg brackets in Rio when Kyle won gold.
Public Service Announcement for those taping, instead of staying up.............
-Do not Go on internet before watching tape.
-Do not look at social media before watching tape.....
-Do not take phone calls from friends and relatives past 10:00PM this evening until watching tape......
GO USA!!!
-Do not Go on internet before watching tape.
-Do not look at social media before watching tape.....
-Do not take phone calls from friends and relatives past 10:00PM this evening until watching tape......
GO USA!!!
@Ranger Dan, are you listening?
In other words, what you're saying is water is wet?
I'm in an HoA zoom mtg, waiting for my project to come up and drinking my tears away, so I could be confused.
It’s too late now!
My son asked me what country is the best in men’s freestyle wrestling… honestly other than copping out to “Russia and Eastern Europe countries” I didn’t know the answer.
I know US is getting close… but from a team standpoint if there were “duals”, who would be the favorite?
I know US is getting close… but from a team standpoint if there were “duals”, who would be the favorite?
Traditionally: Russia, then us, then Iran. Uzbekistan, Khazakstan, Ukraine, India are all tier 2 powers. Cuba is in there.
This year? I’d pick team USA in a six weight dual.
The answer is always USA. What's the question?
Seriously ... USA vs. Russia dual would be very, very competitive. Especially at 6 weights.
Another way to judge it is at a big international tourney like Yarygin where countries can send multiple wrestlers per weight. Gut feel without looking up results is that Russia dominates that, and not just because they send the most wrestlers.
Also note that a lot of countries' wrestlers are Russian exports. Obviously the former Soviet satellites. But also the continent -- funny how many Greek, Italian, French, and Spanish names end in v but only in wrestling. We export some too (Micic, Habat, Amine, etc.) but nowhere near at that level.
USA has made a ton of strides in the past few years. And the incoming talent level is not leveling off.
Mat A Bout 2 - Thomas Gilman v Abdullaev (UZB), 57k repechage
Bout 6 - Kyle Dake v. Hosseinkhani (IRI), 74k
Mat B Bout 5 - Jacarra Winchester v. Khoroshavtseva (ROC)
Mat C Bout 8 - Gable Steveson v. Lazarev (KGZ)
Bout 6 - Kyle Dake v. Hosseinkhani (IRI), 74k
Mat B Bout 5 - Jacarra Winchester v. Khoroshavtseva (ROC)
Mat C Bout 8 - Gable Steveson v. Lazarev (KGZ)
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