2024 NCAA's - Match/discussion threads (merged)

[Pitchfork Rebel]

I don't buy that for a second. He's probably wrestled a thousand matches and has the best coaches in the world in his corner plus he's in an arena with scoreboards all over the place. You don't just forget the score in the national finals.

That might have been thing.. me might've seen the tied score and forgot about RT..

 

[PSUcup1]

What was terrible was 3 times carr pull him off the mat without a stall call in

Walking forward isn't offense. Carr probably took twice as many attacks and was staying on the mat.

He didn’t

 

[BoHunter0210]

He very clearly didn’t know RT was a factor

I’m sure there is a lot going on out there you lose your mind sometimes.

 

[The Japanese Whizzer]

Carr’s a good guy, Messenbrink is on the same path of a few studs - DT, Ruth, ZPain, Nolf, Nickal, Levi). Good season, come back bigger/better!

 

[Psubiomed]

That was Mesenbrinks first and last loss.

 

[Hotshoe]

That's the kind of nonsense that folk has to get straight. There is literally no consistency in calling a stall. I think it's time for the one point push out.

 

[zzs006]

I think the mistake was taking down in 3rd; shoulda been
on feet

I don’t agree. He got out in about :25 seconds and also drew another stall call. He got 2 points in that sequence. He just needed to keep attacking the last 20 seconds of the match and he wins

 

[johnstownsteel]

He very clearly didn’t know RT was a factor

Yep. And knew he had him tired and would go for it in OT

 

[sneedram55]

Walking forward isn't offense. Carr probably took twice as many attacks and was staying on the mat.

Clown take

 

[RB-Old]

Mitchell was having fun. Carr is a good dude. As MM says it’s not about winning or losing it’s about competing.

Mitchell doesn't think it's good wrestling by not taking a shot in the last 30 seconds when you're down one. It's pretty much the opposite of what he preaches.

 

[JimNazium]

That's the kind of nonsense that folk has to get straight. There is literally no consistency in calling a stall. I think it's time for the one point push out.

And get rid of riding time.

 

[johnstownsteel]

Hard to believe you miss the riding time when you got rode for 2 or 3 min

Well we can agree to disagree

 

[SUPERTODD]

These announcers are brutal. Actively rooting against Penn State.

 

[mcpat]

Regardless of pace, the match was 2 takedowns to 1.

Tough to get upset at a loss when you lose the takedown battle and riding time.

The upset part is Mitch broke him and didn’t realize the score. Don’t let him up or take another shot. Can’t let him up and not take a shot.

 

[Hotshoe]

This ref is getting it right.

 

[District four]

That's how you call stalling

 

[mcpat]

“Stallrocci”

 

[Pitchfork Rebel]

I’m gonna start an Atheist Wrestling Fan Club.

Why?

 

[El-Jefe]

LOL, Welsh had the ankle for 4 sec before the count started. Angel being Angel.

 

[jmadden1998]

Every ref calls stalling differently. Refs shouldn’t have that much influence on any match. Note, I’m all for more stalling being called but when guys wrestle the exact same way and it’s called completely differently each match, it’s a problem.

 

[RB-Old]

He had hold of Carters leg for three seconds before he started the count. JB says he likes it from the ref because he doesn't want to hit him for stalling again.

 

[Pitchfork Rebel]

Is Welsh a hemophiliac?

 

[Steamboat529529]

Carter has a guardian Angel on his side for this one!!!

 

[zzs006]

If Carter and AB win does the points record fall?

 

[jmadden1998]

If Carter and AB win does the points record fall?

Yes

 

[mcpat]

If Carter and AB win does the points record fall?

Yes

 

[El-Jefe]

Cormier said he got the prelim brackets and Carter was the 7, then got re-seeded 9.

Jeez.

Lewis and Griffith have to be sick.

 

[zzs006]

Will Welsh go under Carter in the 3rd?

 

[BruceK-PSU83]

When you give up two TDs in the finals, expect to lose. Carr won fair and square.

No one is saying it wasn't a fair outcome. Just unfortunate, with a bizarre twist.

 

[zzs006]

Takes neutral. Maybe Ohio state learned their lesson about getting out from bottom??

 

[dsites52]

Here's my f***ing issue, those three quick stalls then the guy does nothing else and no more calls...WTF

 

[RB-Old]

Tres

 

[Steamboat529529]

Congrats to Carter and Angel!!!!

 

[sneedram55]

Carter!!!! 4x. Stud

 

[WEAREPSU_LI]

4 timer on one leg!! CARTER!

 

[PAgeologist]

Nice job Carter. 4 X CHAMP

 

[zzs006]

4 time champ!!!!

 

[mcpat]

Carter Starocci
4-Time Champion

 

[SlipperyPete12]

174: #9 C.Starocci vs. #6 R.Welsh (OHST)
P1:
Here we go for number four! Win Carter Win!
Starocci jogging to the mat.
And we're off!
Carter same brace on the knee
Tying up & circling, Starocci shoots, nothing
Back to the feet,
Starocci shoots again, nothing
Blood time, Welsh cut around the eye
Back at it
Circling, head tapping, snapping down by Starocci
Starocci stalking, tying up, Welsh pushing forward, then moving back
Tying up & then break & back to center circling
Starocci moving forward
Back to center, circling
Tying up, collar ties, head tapping & jockeying for position
1-min left
Starocci shoots, gets the leg, but Welsh fights out of it
Starocci moving forward
Stall warning Welsh
Starocci pressuring forward, Welsh back on the edge
Starocci drops in on a shot, Welsh sprawls back, Starocci pulls out
Back to their feet
Welsh backing up
Stalling Welsh 1-0
Time runs out
More blood time

P2:
Starocci takes down
Starocci to his feet, Welsh grabs the leg, action stopped
More blood time. Welsh's face is really bloody.
This will be a bonus for Starocci's conditioning.
Starocci to his feet, breaks the grip & gets the escape 2-0
Welsh shoots, gets the leg, Starocci sprawls, Welsh trying to move forward, stalemate
Back to center, circling
Starocci snaps hard
Starocci working the head
40-sec left
Starocci half shot
Starocci moving forward, another shot
Starocci moving forward & takes another shot, period ends

P3:
Welsh takes neutral
Tying up, circling in the center of the mat
Starocci driving forward, tying up & pushing forward
Starocci shoots, Welsh blocks him off
Tying up & circling again, pushing into each other
1-min left
Starocci tapping at the head, hand fighting
Tying up, circling, breaking apart
Welsh half shot
30-sec left
Welsh tries to shoot,
Stall warning Starocci
Starocci shoots, gets the leg, working, Welsh does the splits, Starocci gets the leg in the air & they go off the edge, restart
Welsh moves forward, Starocci backs up as time runs out
Starocci is a 4-timer!

#9 C.Starocci DEC #6 R.Welsh 2-0

The 1-legged warrior! Great job battling through injury to win #4! Way to go Carter! I hope you're back next year going for #5!!!

 

[NittanyChris]

Four timer! Warrior! CARTER!!!