Yea, I'd agree. AF has elite defense, but little offense. He appears to have superior Neutral skills and Carter couldn't ride him at all, which you rarely see.
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Yea, I'd agree. AF has elite defense, but little offense. He appears to have superior Neutral skills and Carter couldn't ride him at all, which you rarely see.
Levi doesn't look overly huge but his weight leaving practice last September was 182 and he has zero fat. I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up around 190 this summer with zero fat.
He hated the cut to 157 and is having a ball just wrestling without much to worry about with the weight. Depending on what everybody else wants to do it would not surprise me if he wrestled 184 next year, nor would 174 surprise me. 174 will be a cut though.
I disagree with this at this level. You pretty much have to spike someone on their head (see Rogotzke) or trap an arm to get called for a slam at this level.
HS- yes. Safe return is paramount. NCAA - these are men we are talking about. Unless your opponent is compromised and you're showing intent to injury, they are not calling a slam. If you toss him to the mat like Gable did, not going to get called ever.
Keep these stories coming. They are really insightful. Wrestling fans are like a cult but in a good way. Even the folks from IA.
We also met Kasak's little brother. Great personality on that rascal. He recently won a huge youth tournament in State College. His grip strength is incredible for a kid his age.
We also met a couple of Iowa posters with PSU Mike (who rocks!!) , they say Iowa is buying a line up that will compete with PSU next year. 197, 141, and 125 will be free agent signings and more.
There's another one? Cool.
Don't worry Paul's son Jordan was recruiting him.
Yes, forgot to mention, met @PSU Mike and had some great deep dish pizza and beer! Plus he introduced us to two Hawkeye fans and board members. One had an inner circle quarter zip.
Sorry Mike, no idea how i could forget you in the writeup.
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I didn't think Kerk moved his feet enough. I am wondering if he was simply 'feeling him out' (although they have wrestled before - but not for awhile) and setting up for Natty's.... just a thought
Have to agree with the OP - match more lopsided than the score. Steveson appeared to be very conservative regarding his energy level.... He just layed on Kerk and didn't try to do a thing from top after all three of his takedowns. Then, with quite a bit of time remaining in third, he appeared to let Kerk up and just play defense rather than go for the Major. Not sure what was up with that other than his energy level being limited and he had to manage it (not unusual when someone gets that big - a body that big only has so much "max energy" output.
What if you chuck him through the scorer’s table in front of an incredibly sensitive coach?
Wow did this place get ridiculous on pg 24!
I'll be back to mark the ending.
Jesus I hope at most it's only one page.
I'll be back to mark the ending.
Jesus I hope at most it's only one page.
This is what should have been being said on this board. It took kasaks pin for this to happen though.
Except that he didn't toss him to the mat - he intentionally tossed him sideways off of the mat and literally into the photographers. Probably should have been penalized - completely unnecessary and very dangerous to multiple people not just his competitor.
Ok I won't say anything ever again. After this, it really was like reading the Iowa board, it was tuff.... for a page, I now give credit where credit is due, it sounds like you guys again.
Spoken like a purveyor of various illicit substances and activities.
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if he prefers 84 I am sure Ryder would be more than happy to take the 74 spot.
I don’t recall the exact interview, but in a recent interview, he said he loves Penn State and he plans to stick around long term.
I thought we had a mildly disappointing Big Ten Tournament. I expected Beau and Shayne to be in the finals. Barr losing in the semis and getting injured was the worst disappointment. I thought Kerkvliet might push Steveson a little more. Lilledahl was a pleasant surprise. Obviously we won and had 5 champs, so not terrible. It's just the hype was so great it seems like underperforming.
But then there's real underperforming I listened to the Hawkeye tournament coverage on the Iowa City AM station KXIC. They didn't pull any punches, pointing out that Iowa had no champs and only one of Iowa's wrestlers, Iowa City High product Ben Kueter, wrestled above seed. Caliendo keeping it close against Mesenbrink was another bright spot for them. Iowa effectively rented some AAs to maybe try to bridge the gap. One lost in the finals. One lost 13-0 in the 3rd place match and another took 7th while seeded 4th.
But then there's real underperforming I listened to the Hawkeye tournament coverage on the Iowa City AM station KXIC. They didn't pull any punches, pointing out that Iowa had no champs and only one of Iowa's wrestlers, Iowa City High product Ben Kueter, wrestled above seed. Caliendo keeping it close against Mesenbrink was another bright spot for them. Iowa effectively rented some AAs to maybe try to bridge the gap. One lost in the finals. One lost 13-0 in the 3rd place match and another took 7th while seeded 4th.
Flo has PSU actually adding 6 points to their ncaa score after big 10’s. Flo has them up to 169 points now. The biggest move is Lilledahl moving all the way to number 1. Davis still at 5, BB at 1, SVN 3, Kasak 1, MM 1, Levi 1, CStar 1, Barr 3, and Kerk 2. So I guess the sky isn’t actually falling
It wouldn’t have been called a slam. It would be unsportsmanlike. In any event, it doesn’t matter. In this case he missed the chair he might have been aiming for and no one was hurt so it’s not worth arguing. Can’t say as I’ve seen many throws over the years so it not like a rampant problem. That one just struck me as a bit obtuse and it was.
I had the same thought. It’s a pleasant thought ….. but, very likely wishful thinking.I didn't think Kerk moved his feet enough. I am wondering if he was simply 'feeling him out' (although they have wrestled before - but not for awhile) and setting up for Natty's.... just a thought
He looks like he not at 197 because of Salizar only. It also looks as though salizar could be a hwt compared to most 197's, no way will Mckinnley be at 184 next year.
It also looked like one more year of experience and he would have been able to push and bull starocci around the mat, he basically had his way (interms of strength) with Starocci. When have you seen somebody pull their legs out of staroccis grip lately, first time I can recall all year.
He looked great, I am not taking g that away from him. I do believe the only reason he got the first takedown was because CS got too comfortable for literally a half second and McKinley seen it and acted on it. I don't think that will happen next time, I see way better positioning and not letting his guard down next time.
Anybody have an explanation for the deltas between the 'final scores' and 'the max points if seeds hold' on the PSWC tally (now that the tournament is over)?
I thought the delta might be explained by penalty points received, but that doesn't seem to explain all (if that's one reason)?
Excerpt follows:
Team: Score, Max If Seeds Hold
Penn State: 181.5, 181.5
Nebraska: 137, 138
Iowa: 112, 111
Minnesota: 108.5, 109.5
So I concluded both Nebraska and Iowa had one team point deduction, but what explains Minnesota?
Is there a glitch in the website?
I thought the delta might be explained by penalty points received, but that doesn't seem to explain all (if that's one reason)?
Excerpt follows:
Team: Score, Max If Seeds Hold
Penn State: 181.5, 181.5
Nebraska: 137, 138
Iowa: 112, 111
Minnesota: 108.5, 109.5
So I concluded both Nebraska and Iowa had one team point deduction, but what explains Minnesota?
Is there a glitch in the website?
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