a NY6 Bowl ... what are we needing to happen this week?

[Kiber]

I feel it's very important for program "reputation" to get into another NY6 Bowl. It looks good on media brochures, statistical graphics during games, recruiting tweets.... to be able to state "Penn State has played in NY6 Bowl games 3 out of the last 4 seasons....".

No one fact checks to see if it was an Orange vs. Virginia or a Cotton vs. Boise.... the only LONG TERM important stat is "playing in a NY6 Bowl".

So, what do we need this week -- Tuesday night's CFP ranking & Saturday's Championship games??

My opinion:
> Tuesday Night's CFP ranking:
a) Wiscy moves ahead of us THIS week for the short-term but drops below us NEXT week after losing to OSU
b) Minnesota drops below us THIS week and stays behind us NEXT week
c) We MUST stay ahead of Florida and Auburn... either of those teams jumping us is bad news

> Championship Saturday:
a) We need to pull for "chalk". LSU giving Georgia a 2nd loss, OU giving Baylor a 2nd loss, Ohio State giving Wiscy a 3rd loss.... those are all good for us.

IMO, if we stay ahead of FL and Auburn and MN drops below us, then if "chalk" happens on Saturday. The NY6 Bowls would be this:
#1 vs. #4 = Ohio State vs. either OU or Utah
#2 vs. #3 = LSU vs. Clemson
Rose = Oregon or Utah vs. Minnesota (have a feeling Rose takes MN over us for novelty)
Sugar = OU or Baylor vs. Georgia
Orange = Virginia vs. Penn State
Cotton = Power 5 Team vs. Utah or Bama

 

[PSU Dave]

I feel it's very important for program "reputation" to get into another NY6 Bowl. It looks good on media brochures, statistical graphics during games, recruiting tweets.... to be able to state "Penn State has played in NY6 Bowl games 3 out of the last 4 seasons....".

No one fact checks to see if it was an Orange vs. Virginia or a Cotton vs. Boise.... the only LONG TERM important stat is "playing in a NY6 Bowl".

So, what do we need this week -- Tuesday night's CFP ranking & Saturday's Championship games??

My opinion:
> Tuesday Night's CFP ranking:
a) Wiscy moves ahead of us THIS week for the short-term but drops below us NEXT week after losing to OSU
b) Minnesota drops below us THIS week and stays behind us NEXT week
c) We MUST stay ahead of Florida and Auburn... either of those teams jumping us is bad news

> Championship Saturday:
a) We need to pull for "chalk". LSU giving Georgia a 2nd loss, OU giving Baylor a 2nd loss, Ohio State giving Wiscy a 3rd loss.... those are all good for us.

IMO, if we stay ahead of FL and Auburn and MN drops below us, then if "chalk" happens on Saturday. The NY6 Bowls would be this:
#1 vs. #4 = Ohio State vs. either OU or Utah
#2 vs. #3 = LSU vs. Clemson
Rose = Oregon or Utah vs. Minnesota (have a feeling Rose takes MN over us for novelty)
Sugar = OU or Baylor vs. Georgia
Orange = Virginia vs. Penn State
Cotton = Power 5 Team vs. Utah or Bama

Entire Body of Work. PSU > Minny

 

[PSUArnie]

Entire Body of Work. PSU > Minny

Agree completely but the head to head outcome is tough to escape.

 

[PSU2UNC]

If OSU wins convincingly, it should be a lock that PSU goes to the Rose Bowl. This is the "cleanest" path to NY6.

If OSU wins a close game, then perhaps there is an argument for Wisconsin to go instead of PSU, but they will have THREE losses (including one pretty bad loss (Illinois, 6-6)) and two wins (Michigan and Minnesota) that are about equivalent (ranking wise) to PSU's best wins (Michigan and Iowa).

So barring a major upset in Indy, I feel very, very good about PSU to the Rose Bowl.

The path to the Orange or Cotton Bowls aren't nearly as clear, but either is definitely possible depending on how the CCG's shake out.

 

[PSU2UNC]

Agree completely but the head to head outcome is tough to escape.

History says otherwise: see 2016.

 

[psuro]

I feel it's very important for program "reputation" to get into another NY6 Bowl. It looks good on media brochures, statistical graphics during games, recruiting tweets.... to be able to state "Penn State has played in NY6 Bowl games 3 out of the last 4 seasons....".

No one fact checks to see if it was an Orange vs. Virginia or a Cotton vs. Boise.... the only LONG TERM important stat is "playing in a NY6 Bowl".

So, what do we need this week -- Tuesday night's CFP ranking & Saturday's Championship games??

My opinion:
> Tuesday Night's CFP ranking:
a) Wiscy moves ahead of us THIS week for the short-term but drops below us NEXT week after losing to OSU
b) Minnesota drops below us THIS week and stays behind us NEXT week
c) We MUST stay ahead of Florida and Auburn... either of those teams jumping us is bad news

> Championship Saturday:
a) We need to pull for "chalk". LSU giving Georgia a 2nd loss, OU giving Baylor a 2nd loss, Ohio State giving Wiscy a 3rd loss.... those are all good for us.

IMO, if we stay ahead of FL and Auburn and MN drops below us, then if "chalk" happens on Saturday. The NY6 Bowls would be this:
#1 vs. #4 = Ohio State vs. either OU or Utah
#2 vs. #3 = LSU vs. Clemson
Rose = Oregon or Utah vs. Minnesota (have a feeling Rose takes MN over us for novelty)
Sugar = OU or Baylor vs. Georgia
Orange = Virginia vs. Penn State
Cotton = Power 5 Team vs. Utah or Bama

Not sure I entirely agree with you.

Rose I think we have figured out, and most experts have PSU in over Minny or Wisky, unless Wisky beats OSU.. WRT to Orange, UVa is in regardless of win or loss vs. Clemson. The other side is highest rated Big Ten/SEC/Notre Dame. I believe PSU will be rated higher than either Florida or Auburn, due to number of losses and resume. I also think Bama will be higher rated than either.

I believe if we are not in the Rose Bowl, we are out of NY6. I just don't really see a path to the Cotton Bowl.

 

[PSUArnie]

History says otherwise: see 2016.

Never said it couldn't happen but I'm just preparing myself for it to NOT happen. Hope I'm wrong obviously.

 

[PSU Dave]

Agree completely but the head to head outcome is tough to escape.

If the loss to Wiscy was close I’d be worried. The fact they lost 2 of their last 3 including a home blowout I think seals the deal for PSU. JMO

 

[OhioLion]

If OSU wins convincingly, it should be a lock that PSU goes to the Rose Bowl

If I were a betting man, I’d drop a good chunk of change and give the 15 points. Ohowihate suckeyes will roll Wisky. IMO.

OL

 

[Kiber]

Entire Body of Work. PSU > Minny

I'd agree. But no matter what the Rose (or any bowl) says, there is a 'human element" involved that includes $$$$$. Nobody alive has seen MN in a Rose Bowl. They'd have to think that given the opportunity, the MN fan base would be crazed lunatics for the Rose Bowl. .... Rose Bowl sees $$$$$. They could literally sell a pile of dog crap, if it had the Minnesota & Rose Bowl logos.

I just have a feeling that the Rose Bowl comes up with some BS reasoning to pick MN

 

[ryoder1]

I feel it's very important for program "reputation" to get into another NY6 Bowl. It looks good on media brochures, statistical graphics during games, recruiting tweets.... to be able to state "Penn State has played in NY6 Bowl games 3 out of the last 4 seasons....".

No one fact checks to see if it was an Orange vs. Virginia or a Cotton vs. Boise.... the only LONG TERM important stat is "playing in a NY6 Bowl".

So, what do we need this week -- Tuesday night's CFP ranking & Saturday's Championship games??

My opinion:
> Tuesday Night's CFP ranking:
a) Wiscy moves ahead of us THIS week for the short-term but drops below us NEXT week after losing to OSU
b) Minnesota drops below us THIS week and stays behind us NEXT week
c) We MUST stay ahead of Florida and Auburn... either of those teams jumping us is bad news

> Championship Saturday:
a) We need to pull for "chalk". LSU giving Georgia a 2nd loss, OU giving Baylor a 2nd loss, Ohio State giving Wiscy a 3rd loss.... those are all good for us.

IMO, if we stay ahead of FL and Auburn and MN drops below us, then if "chalk" happens on Saturday. The NY6 Bowls would be this:
#1 vs. #4 = Ohio State vs. either OU or Utah
#2 vs. #3 = LSU vs. Clemson
Rose = Oregon or Utah vs. Minnesota (have a feeling Rose takes MN over us for novelty)
Sugar = OU or Baylor vs. Georgia
Orange = Virginia vs. Penn State
Cotton = Power 5 Team vs. Utah or Bama

I absolutely agree with your premise that we need a NY6 bowl to help the program.

I have my doubts about beating out SEC teams for NY6 bowls. I believe UGA goes to Sugar. Bama goes to Orange and Baylor/OU loser is in Cotton (winner in Sugar assuming a Utah win).

If the Utes (Did you say ute?) lose then move up B12 teams to playoff and Sugar and the Utes or Fla in Cotton.

Maybe we have a shot at Cotton IF we stay ahead of FL. That weak arse showing on Sat hurts us I believe. We will be ahead of Awfulburn.

I think we have a good shot at the Roses. Minny just got boat raced. Remember, the Rose Bowl is still living in the 70s and 80s meaning they think they are bigger and more important than they actually are. Their arrogance plays to our favor because they want the best possible matchup and a PSU vs Oregon battle is a good one.

 

[Kiber]

If I were a betting man, I’d drop a good chunk of change and give the 15 points. Ohowihate suckeyes will roll Wisky. IMO.

OL

I'd agree. My opinion is that Ohio State and LSU both want to avoid Clemson. There is a HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE difference this year being #1 or #2.

Being #1 means you get #4 which is probably OU or Utah
Being #2 means you get #3 which is Clemson.

I have a feeling that given the opportunity, both Ohio State & LSU will go for the dreaded "style points" in order to try and secure that #1 seed.

LSU plays Georgia at 3:30. As long as LSU wins that game, then at 8pm, Ohio State knows they have to put on a "beauty show" to secure #1.

 

[Lane]

I'd agree. But no matter what the Rose (or any bowl) says, there is a 'human element" involved that includes $$$$$. Nobody alive has seen MN in a Rose Bowl. They'd have to think that given the opportunity, the MN fan base would be crazed lunatics for the Rose Bowl. .... Rose Bowl sees $$$$$. They could literally sell a pile of dog crap, if it had the Minnesota & Rose Bowl logos.

I just have a feeling that the Rose Bowl comes up with some BS reasoning to pick MN

That same bunch of lunatics had trouble filling stadium in reasonable weather when top 4 PSU came to town and Minn was undefeated. They were giving tickets away to military personnel just to get seats filled. I don’t think we’re talking about a fan base that will clamor to fly to California for a game when they couldn’t make it cross town.

They probably sell a few novelty boat oars and some stuffed Caddyshack characters but it’s not an old school Nebraska type rabid group.

 

[LionRange]

I honestly think they end up sticking Alabama in the citrus bowl which would allow us to potentially go to the orange or cotton bowl if we are denied the rose .

The reason for that is that the matchup of Alabama vs Virginia or Memphis is disgustingly terrible. Especially when you consider that in the citrus bowl Alabama can play against let’s say a Michigan or Minnesota. If Georgia loses I’m betting they get the more prized sugar bowl spot over Bama.



It’s easily justified as well. Bama has no ranked or even any quality wins. Penn state has the better resume.

Another thing is that I don’t think they want to put penn state against 7-5 Tennessee in the outback bowl. If we were eligible for the citrus I think they would very possibly put us there but it’s not an option.

 

[Jerry]

If OSU wins convincingly, it should be a lock that PSU goes to the Rose Bowl. This is the "cleanest" path to NY6.

Totally agree. The most important factor at this point is for Wisconsin to lose by two touchdowns or more. The point spread opened at 18 and is now 16. If the Bucks cover that number, Penn State goes to the Rose Bowl.

If the margin is more "respectable," somewhere in the single digits, stand by to hear a dozen BS arguments from the Usual Suspects about why the 3-loss Badgers should get the nod ahead of us. Either way, I don't think Minnesota is a threat at this point.

The path to the Orange Bowl seems a lot murkier. But either Rose or Orange would be fantastic for the program.

 

[fastlax16]

Uga beating lsu is better for us if you want to keep the Orange in play. Sec gets two in that scenario and bama goes to the sugar. I get that bama doesn’t have the resume but I’ll be shocked if they’re behind us tonight.

 

[Kiber]

I honestly think they end up sticking Alabama in the citrus bowl which would allow us to potentially go to the orange or cotton bowl if we are denied the rose .

The reason for that is that the matchup of Alabama vs Virginia or Memphis is disgustingly terrible. Especially when you consider that in the citrus bowl Alabama can play against let’s say a Michigan or Minnesota. If Georgia loses I’m betting they get the more prized sugar bowl spot over Bama.



It’s easily justified as well. Bama has no ranked or even any quality wins. Penn state has the better resume.

Another thing is that I don’t think they want to put penn state against 7-5 Tennessee in the outback bowl. If we were eligible for the citrus I think they would very possibly put us there but it’s not an option.

Couldn't Auburn go to Outback instead of TN ??

SEC options:
# 1 - LSU in 4-team playoff
# 2 - UGA in Sugar
# 3 = Florida
# 4 = Bama or Auburn
# 5 = Bama or Auburn

I see TN way down their list

 

[NewEra 2014]

Couldn't Auburn go to Outback instead of TN ??

SEC options:
# 1 - LSU in 4-team playoff
# 2 - UGA in Sugar
# 3 = Florida
# 4 = Bama or Auburn
# 5 = Bama or Auburn

I see TN way down their list

Still, that is 6 SEC teams deserving of being in the playoff or the NY6. Not a lot of spots left for teams from other conferences. Which is why a couple of bowl games will probably have rematches of SEC conference games that happened earlier in the season. Or maybe I have been listening to Finebaum's radio show too much.

 

[LionRange]

Couldn't Auburn go to Outback instead of TN ??

SEC options:
# 1 - LSU in 4-team playoff
# 2 - UGA in Sugar
# 3 = Florida
# 4 = Bama or Auburn
# 5 = Bama or Auburn

I see TN way down their list

Hmm I guess they could, just most of the projections have 7-5 Tennessee as the SEC outback participant and Auburn as the citrus. But that’s because they are assuming Bama gets a NY6 spot.

However what they might do is put Alabama in the citrus and auburn in the outback bowl.

That way you could have two good matchups of

Bama vs Michigan

And

Minnesota vs Auburn

I think they and the country would find that to be way more appetizing than watching Bama play Virginia or Memphis

 

[interrobang]

In simpler terms, in order of precedence

1) Finish as the top ranked B1G team after OSU, preferably with a couple spots breathing room = Rose
2) Finish as the top ranked B1G/SEC team after the Rose/Sugar are filled = Orange
3) Finish as the top ranked team after the Rose/Sugar/Orange are filled = Cotton

 

[Texas Lion]

Oregon beats Utah
Ohio State beats Wiscy
LSU beats GA
Oklahoma beats Baylor
Clemson beats VA

Possible:
CFP: LSU vs Oklahoma
CFP: OSU vs Clemson
Rose: Minnesota vs Oregon
Orange: VA vs Alabama
Sugar: GA vs Baylor
Cotton: Memphis vs Penn State

It is time to tell the Group of 5 Teams to go pound sand. Nobody wants to see them in the NY6 Bowls and the only reason they ever win them is because it is their Super Bowl while it is usually the team they plays consolation prize.

Kick Memphis out and all of a sudden Florida can go play VA in miama and we could play Bama in the Cotton.

 

[NittanyOpp]

Minnesota is not going to Rose, period.

 

[anon_1eeb2b426hv3y]

That same bunch of lunatics had trouble filling stadium in reasonable weather when top 4 PSU came to town and Minn was undefeated. They were giving tickets away to military personnel just to get seats filled. I don’t think we’re talking about a fan base that will clamor to fly to California for a game when they couldn’t make it cross town.

They probably sell a few novelty boat oars and some stuffed Caddyshack characters but it’s not an old school Nebraska type rabid group.

I think this is right. They struggled to fill their own stadium for the biggest game there in ages. Mn fans would go to the Rose Bowl but PSU sells TV audience, as evidenced by all 3 major game-day programs being in Columbus when PSU played OSU. And that was even after we'd dropped that one to MN.

I could see the novelty of the Rose picking MN but I think this one's in the hands of the committee. And they shouldn't be ranked higher than us. They 're not the better team.

 

[Kiber]

Oregon beats Utah
Ohio State beats Wiscy
LSU beats GA
Oklahoma beats Baylor
Clemson beats VA

Possible:
CFP: LSU vs Oklahoma
CFP: OSU vs Clemson
Rose: Minnesota vs Oregon
Orange: VA vs Alabama
Sugar: GA vs Baylor
Cotton: Memphis vs Penn State

It is time to tell the Group of 5 Teams to go pound sand. Nobody wants to see them in the NY6 Bowls and the only reason they ever win them is because it is their Super Bowl while it is usually the team they plays consolation prize.

Kick Memphis out and all of a sudden Florida can go play VA in miama and we could play Bama in the Cotton.

Totally agree about the Group Of 5 teams. This is not U9 Church League Girls Soccer where every team makes the playoffs just to be "fair". Like you said, history shows us that in those match-ups the Power 5 team treats it is a crappy consolation prize, they are almost "embarrassed" to be playing "Western Michigan" or "Central Florida", and they do not take it seriously. Any of their players who are even thinking about going into the Draft, skip the bowl because they are not going to risk an injury vs. Boise State. Meanwhile, they Group Of 5 team goes into the game with "chip on shoulder", trying to "prove they belong" and are playing as if it's their SB.... when the Group Of 5 team wins the game, then all of their apologists have another false reason to keep them in this system for another year.

IMO, let the Group Of 5 have their own 4-team playoff. And let them crown their own Champion.

 

[slykens]

IMO, let the Group Of 5 have their own 4-team playoff. And let them crown their own Champion

I figure the G5 participation in CFP/NY6 is to avoid anti-trust review of the bowl system. I seriously doubt Congress would offer an exemption to the P5 conferences if they excluded smaller programs.

 

[okinburg1]

After OSU curb stomps Wisky this weekend, PSU goes to the Rose, plain and simple. Minny's historic season notwithstanding, the Rose Bowl doesn't want to take a chance that their fans will flood Southern California. They will go with the closest they can get to a financial sure thing - Penn State and their massive, rabid fan base. Write it down, cuz it's going to happen.

And bet the farm on OSU, b/c their coach knows he must run it up to maintain his #1 ranking, avoiding the more difficult semifinal opponent, Clemson.

 

[Nitwit97]

History says otherwise: see 2016.

Different records


I worry about Oklahoma making the playoffs,that would bump Baylor down to SugarBowl and mean another SEC team slides down for the Orange Bowl spot.


I think if we are in Top 8 after Tuesday night, we will get an NY6 slot.

 

[PineIslandLion]

I feel it's very important for program "reputation" to get into another NY6 Bowl. It looks good on media brochures, statistical graphics during games, recruiting tweets.... to be able to state "Penn State has played in NY6 Bowl games 3 out of the last 4 seasons....".

No one fact checks to see if it was an Orange vs. Virginia or a Cotton vs. Boise.... the only LONG TERM important stat is "playing in a NY6 Bowl".

So, what do we need this week -- Tuesday night's CFP ranking & Saturday's Championship games??

My opinion:
> Tuesday Night's CFP ranking:
a) Wiscy moves ahead of us THIS week for the short-term but drops below us NEXT week after losing to OSU
b) Minnesota drops below us THIS week and stays behind us NEXT week
c) We MUST stay ahead of Florida and Auburn... either of those teams jumping us is bad news

> Championship Saturday:
a) We need to pull for "chalk". LSU giving Georgia a 2nd loss, OU giving Baylor a 2nd loss, Ohio State giving Wiscy a 3rd loss.... those are all good for us.

IMO, if we stay ahead of FL and Auburn and MN drops below us, then if "chalk" happens on Saturday. The NY6 Bowls would be this:
#1 vs. #4 = Ohio State vs. either OU or Utah
#2 vs. #3 = LSU vs. Clemson
Rose = Oregon or Utah vs. Minnesota (have a feeling Rose takes MN over us for novelty)
Sugar = OU or Baylor vs. Georgia
Orange = Virginia vs. Penn State
Cotton = Power 5 Team vs. Utah or Bama

In the scheme of things, Florida & Auburn jumping us only matters for either Orange or Cotton Bowl consideration. It’s all about the Rose Bowl at this point. I believe that as long as Wiscy loses to OSU (regardless of score), we’re heading to Pasadena. To be extra sure, would be good to see Wiscy lose by 2 Td’s or more.

 

[LionRange]

Different records


I worry about Oklahoma making the playoffs,that would bump Baylor down to SugarBowl and mean another SEC team slides down for the Orange Bowl spot.


I think if we are in Top 8 after Tuesday night, we will get an NY6 slot.

We definitely won’t be top 8. We were 10 last week and only Minnesota is dropping out. Bama should drop to past 10 but we know they won’t.

Wisconsin will rise and so will Florida I think.

Auburn should be right behind us, since they still have 3 losses. But you never know

My guess is we are 11 or 12. Hopefully just one slot behind Wisconsin so we can overpass them easily,

 

[PeetzPoolBoy]

If I were a betting man, I’d drop a good chunk of change and give the 15 points. Ohowihate suckeyes will roll Wisky. IMO.

OL

Only if Fields remains healthy. I have wondered all season what OSU would look like without Fields and got the opportunity for a few plays to see. OSU has no serviceable QB backups.

 

[Nitwit97]

We definitely won’t be top 8. We were 10 last week and only Minnesota is dropping out. Bama should drop to past 10 but we know they won’t.

Wisconsin will rise and so will Florida I think.

Auburn should be right behind us, since they still have 3 losses. But you never know

My guess is we are 11 or 12. Hopefully just one slot behind Wisconsin so we can overpass them easily,

The rationale I use is that there are twelve Bowl bids, and two of those (Cotton and Orange) will come from outside the top 12,
So you have to be in top ten for a chance, so top 8 should lock it.

 

[LionRange]

The rationale I use is that there are twelve Bowl bids, and two of those (Cotton and Orange) will come from outside the top 12,
So you have to be in top ten for a chance, so top 8 should lock it.

Oh top 8 absolutely would lock it, I just can’t imagine we are there.

 

[anon_1eeb2b426hv3y]

Oh top 8 absolutely would lock it, I just can’t imagine we are there.

Most of this depends where they put Florida. Obviously.

 

[JoeBot409]

I feel it's very important for program "reputation" to get into another NY6 Bowl. It looks good on media brochures, statistical graphics during games, recruiting tweets.... to be able to state "Penn State has played in NY6 Bowl games 3 out of the last 4 seasons....".

No one fact checks to see if it was an Orange vs. Virginia or a Cotton vs. Boise.... the only LONG TERM important stat is "playing in a NY6 Bowl".

So, what do we need this week -- Tuesday night's CFP ranking & Saturday's Championship games??

My opinion:
> Tuesday Night's CFP ranking:
a) Wiscy moves ahead of us THIS week for the short-term but drops below us NEXT week after losing to OSU
b) Minnesota drops below us THIS week and stays behind us NEXT week
c) We MUST stay ahead of Florida and Auburn... either of those teams jumping us is bad news

> Championship Saturday:
a) We need to pull for "chalk". LSU giving Georgia a 2nd loss, OU giving Baylor a 2nd loss, Ohio State giving Wiscy a 3rd loss.... those are all good for us.

IMO, if we stay ahead of FL and Auburn and MN drops below us, then if "chalk" happens on Saturday. The NY6 Bowls would be this:
#1 vs. #4 = Ohio State vs. either OU or Utah
#2 vs. #3 = LSU vs. Clemson
Rose = Oregon or Utah vs. Minnesota (have a feeling Rose takes MN over us for novelty)
Sugar = OU or Baylor vs. Georgia
Orange = Virginia vs. Penn State
Cotton = Power 5 Team vs. Utah or Bama

It is bonkers to think Wisconsin is not going to be in the Rose Bowl. The went on the road and destroyed a top 10 team, the same team that completely owned us. And we think they are going to drop because they lose the championship game? A post season game that we were not good enough to make?

this should have been a guaranteed NY6 bowl at least, but unfortunately Rahne, Pry, and Smith pooped themselves in Minneapolis. Maybe we will have better luck next year, but I wouldn’t bet on it... Franklin doesn’t have the cojones to make the necessary staff changes.

 

[psuno1]

I honestly think they end up sticking Alabama in the citrus bowl which would allow us to potentially go to the orange or cotton bowl if we are denied the rose .

The reason for that is that the matchup of Alabama vs Virginia or Memphis is disgustingly terrible. Especially when you consider that in the citrus bowl Alabama can play against let’s say a Michigan or Minnesota. If Georgia loses I’m betting they get the more prized sugar bowl spot over Bama.



It’s easily justified as well. Bama has no ranked or even any quality wins. Penn state has the better resume.

Another thing is that I don’t think they want to put penn state against 7-5 Tennessee in the outback bowl. If we were eligible for the citrus I think they would very possibly put us there but it’s not an option.

But Geroiga can go to back to back Sugar Bowls- these bowl rules are so dumb. Going to play a 4 loss Tenn or Am is so bad.

 

[LionRange]

It is bonkers to think Wisconsin is not going to be in the Rose Bowl. The went on the road and destroyed a top 10 team, the same team that completely owned us. And we think they are going to drop because they lose the championship game? A post season game that we were not good enough to make?

this should have been a guaranteed NY6 bowl at least, but unfortunately Rahne, Pry, and Smith pooped themselves in Minneapolis. Maybe we will have better luck next year, but I wouldn’t bet on it... Franklin doesn’t have the cojones to make the necessary staff changes.

They also went on the road and got beaten by a 6-6 Illinois who lost to eastern Michigan on that same home field.

And they got worked at Ohio state in the exact same weather conditions that we gave them a scare in.

If they lose by two touchdowns they are justly and rightfully eliminated from the rose bowl.

Illinois will and should haunt them

 

[PSUoh90]

One thing that bodes well for us, IMO:

OSU will not be taking Wisco lightly. The 1 seed may be more valuable this year than ever before. OSU will need to be impressive to earn the 1-seed over LSU. The 1 seed will avoid Clemson and potentially play Utah. Of course, if LSU were to lose to UGA, this scenario would change.

 

[MtNittany]

...A post season game that we were not good enough to make?

...by virtue of winning a far inferior division?

 

[JoeBot409]

...by virtue of winning a far inferior division?

If we were in the West, we still would not be in the conference title game. With the same record, you cannot definitively say we are better. So by default Wisconsin will be in Rose Bowl assuming OSU wins.

 

[MtNittany]

If we were in the West, we still would not be in the conference title game. With the same record, you cannot definitively say we are better. So by default Wisconsin will be in Rose Bowl assuming OSU wins.

You're a dope.