And Moorhead is fired
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In a related story, a Miss State plane was seeing headed to Dallas, Texas with a return flight scheduled 20 minutes after touchdown, with one additional soul on board.
Thought Moorhead was mismatched with MSU geographically but to give someone two years is crap. He had a solid recruiting class coming in and did take them to two straight bowl games. It would be one thing if he had losing records and no bowls each of the last two years. He will have a job as an OC somewhere as soon as he wants it or a head coaching job at a smaller northern school.
Moorhead would do well to really think about his next stop. I know he made a lot of money, but MSU felt a lot like a no win situation for him. Largely irrelevant program in the most or one of the most competitive conferences in the country wrought with rampant cheating and bag men. He was never going to be able to attract the type of players to consistently compete with Alabama, Auburn, Georgia, Florida, etc. Fans with unrealistic expectations because the last guy was able to have a few blip years with senior talent. If MSU torched him 4 weeks ago, I think Moorhead would have been perfect at a place like Boston College. Smart, academically and ethically inclined northeastern school competing in a terrible conference- He'd have a LONG leash, their last guy, addazio somehow lasted 7 years and he may be the dumbest coach I have ever watched and was not well liked. Imagine Joe finding a way to win 8 games at B.C. one year by bringing their offense out of the neanderthal era? They'd put a statue up of him and lock him up until 2044.
Allegedly MSU was throwing out off the field issues as a concern, specifically the fight during bowl prep where their starting QB got hurt and couldn’t play.
I don’t think so. He left on good terms with Franklin’s blessings. It’s people who leave for a lateral move that piss JF off, I think. That said, PSU has moved on and has a new OC.
Never thought I'd ever say this, but, I'd rather not have Moorhead. 
He didn't burn any bridges, but he'll be in demand as an OC at least, if not for a HC maybe in a P5 school. Or as noted above, maybe a fit at a school like BC.
Crack of the week.Never thought I'd ever say this, but, I'd rather not have Moorhead.
Shrader being sent home while Gay played in the bowl game was probably the out they were looking for. Gay has had off field issues before including academic fraud. You would think the player who broke Shrader's orbital bone would have also been sent home regardless of what was rumored to be said by Shrader that caused the fight.
With Moorhead available, wonder if pitt will fire Duzzi and make a bold move.....
Does Michigan want to stay committed to Gattis?
Does MSU ever plan to get out of the Jurassic era?
Half the ACC schools could use him.
Hecwould fit in nicely in the Big 12 or PAC
Does MSU ever plan to get out of the Jurassic era?
Half the ACC schools could use him.
Hecwould fit in nicely in the Big 12 or PAC
With Moorhead available, wonder if pitt will fire Duzzi and make a bold move.....
Are you kidding? nardoozie won a bowl game. He’s reached walt harris status in pitt lore.
With Moorhead available, wonder if pitt will fire Duzzi and make a bold move.....
Let's pray not. Lifetime contract for Narduzzi, please.
Depends - how would he feel about coaching the offensive line? My guess is that both sides are appreciative of each other, but that the timing is all wrong for a return to PSU - at least as one of the ten on field assistants.
Then gopher athletic supporters will have to get used to delayed handoffs five yards behind the line of scrimmage for losses of eight yards.
I love the SEC schools that think it is a birth right to be highly rated. Most of the teams have a long history of having a ceiling of mediocrity. The whole SEC is living off of Bama's reputation and pre-1970 results.
The only reason for a coach to go there is to get paid a lot to stay home for a couple of years after they fire you.
The only reason for a coach to go there is to get paid a lot to stay home for a couple of years after they fire you.
Lol. MSU extended Moorhead in May of 2019! Bwhahaha: https://www.si.com/college/2019/05/21/mississippi-state-joe-moorhead-contract-extension
Not at all. He left for a promotional opportunity with CJF's blessing.
That noted, it would make zero sense for him to return to PSU unless he wants to hang out as a program consultant for a year like Haslett or Galiano. He will undoubtedly have opportunities for an FBS HC gig during the the next year with firings and move-ups.
Dude should enjoy counting his MSU buyout stash and wait for UConn, Temple or an ACC/MAC job to open up. No reason to go back to being an OC.
I’ll tell you who in the conference should take a look at him considering there offensive woes the last couple of years. Dantonio!
No tears for Moorhead, assuming they buy him out fully, he'll have made close to $15 million for 2 years' work.
It's MSU's mistake I think -- hiring a guy who didn't have any experience in the south, didn't have Div. 1 head coaching experieince, didn't have any experience in the SEC...... Moorhead was probably over his head.
Anyway he made enough money to retire. Plus he'll still be in demand as an offensive coordinator and will have plenty of attractive opportunities I think. I don't see any real downside -- if he has another successful turn as a high profile OC and wants to be a head coach, there's a good chance he'll get a second bite -- though he'll probably have to settle for something less than a power 5 program where he can prove himself.
Persona non grata at PSU? Are you kidding? Moorhead probably saved Franklin's career at PSU. He's the biggest reason they won the B10 in 2016 which was really transformative for the program -- it put PSU back on the map recruiting-wise and made possible the kind of program Franklin has built.
I don't know why Moorhead isn't more popular on the board. Yeah PSU couldn't run the ball while he was here but that was a vastly subpar OL -- it had nothing to do with Moorhead's scheme and philosophy.
PSU players played fearlessly under Moorhead. Just a random example, Juwan Johnson makes a great clutch catch on an improvised play (with Moorhead on the sideline actually coaching players!) to win at Iowa on the last play of the game. The next season, the very same Juwan Johnson can't catch anything, loses confidence, ends up transferring because he has no future at PSU -- and then he goes to Oregon where he has super productive career.
Coaching matters. And Moorhead is one of the really good ones.
It's MSU's mistake I think -- hiring a guy who didn't have any experience in the south, didn't have Div. 1 head coaching experieince, didn't have any experience in the SEC...... Moorhead was probably over his head.
Anyway he made enough money to retire. Plus he'll still be in demand as an offensive coordinator and will have plenty of attractive opportunities I think. I don't see any real downside -- if he has another successful turn as a high profile OC and wants to be a head coach, there's a good chance he'll get a second bite -- though he'll probably have to settle for something less than a power 5 program where he can prove himself.
Persona non grata at PSU? Are you kidding? Moorhead probably saved Franklin's career at PSU. He's the biggest reason they won the B10 in 2016 which was really transformative for the program -- it put PSU back on the map recruiting-wise and made possible the kind of program Franklin has built.
I don't know why Moorhead isn't more popular on the board. Yeah PSU couldn't run the ball while he was here but that was a vastly subpar OL -- it had nothing to do with Moorhead's scheme and philosophy.
PSU players played fearlessly under Moorhead. Just a random example, Juwan Johnson makes a great clutch catch on an improvised play (with Moorhead on the sideline actually coaching players!) to win at Iowa on the last play of the game. The next season, the very same Juwan Johnson can't catch anything, loses confidence, ends up transferring because he has no future at PSU -- and then he goes to Oregon where he has super productive career.
Coaching matters. And Moorhead is one of the really good ones.
Gheez. I hope PSU considers bringing him back. From what I understand from so many PSU fans is that Franklin owes 100% of all the teams' success to Moorhead. Seems like Franklin is just a total boob who barely can put on his own pants and tie his shoes in the morning, and he was just being propped up by JoMo.... the founder of the modern day offense.
I'd say a stocked cupboard of guys named Barkley, McSorley and Gesicki had more to do with it that anything else. I know many feel that Moorhead is the founding father of the modern day offense. He is this generations Sid Gillman, and Bill Walsh all rolled up into one mega-mind offensive genius. But good old JoMo inherited a Miss State team with like 18 returning starters in 2018. Including 3 guys who were 1st round draft picks on Defense. Old Mastermind JoMo, turned that loaded roster into being fired in 2 years.... Maybe just maybe FRANKLIN had more to do with FRANKLIN'S success.
When will it be announced that Moorhead cured cancer too? C’mon man he was a good coach but having a generational talent like Barkley in the backfield and McSorley at QB had nothing to do with the offense’s success in the 2 years Moorhead was there, huh? Your suggestion that Johnson could catch when Moorhead was OC and because of him but couldn’t when Rahne became OC and because of him is beyond ridiculous.
If 8 games, 30 catches, 467 yards and 4 TDs is "super productive", cool.
I don't think Moorhead is unpopular on this board. I agree he probably saved Franklin's job and did a ton to get us back on the radar. That doesn't mean his play calling was perfect. Or that we should all like 100% of his playbook.
Then gopher athletic supporters will have to get used to delayed handoffs five yards behind the line of scrimmage for losses of eight yards.
He was great besides this
I simply cannot understand schools that have such a short leash and expectations of immediate results. 2 years? Those aren't his players.
I always think when USC-types are looking for a head coach that it has to be a major negative to a coach considering them if they have a record of dumping their head coaches every 2 years. Meanwhile, at Penn State, you likely may be the head guy for decades. I don't care how much USC is willing to pay, job security and the ability to define a program over a significant period matters.
I always think when USC-types are looking for a head coach that it has to be a major negative to a coach considering them if they have a record of dumping their head coaches every 2 years. Meanwhile, at Penn State, you likely may be the head guy for decades. I don't care how much USC is willing to pay, job security and the ability to define a program over a significant period matters.
