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And the committee chose Ohio State because

no. we are an average conf this yr. i said that before. but i dont act like the pac12 is the dominant conf this yr. psu fans do.
PSU fans are not the ones who said the Big was the best conference in football this year, that was everyone else. And guess what? A few years ago when pretty much everyone agreed the SEC was the strongest conference in football, they had the worst bowl record that year. It was widely discussed and accepted this year that the Big was the best conference whether you think so or not and that is not just something in Penn State fans' heads.
 
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Regardless of who you think they should have beaten, Indiana lost 7 games. And Bloomington isn't exactly a hostile environment. The crowds at Memorial Stadium tend to be split 50/50 depending on who the opponent is.

Literally the most desperate series of posts I've ever seen. Go home already - you got trucked. I see a lot of OSU fans on twitter saying better to lose now than to Bama later. That's the spirit!
 
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And Pitt beat you head to head. And Michigan beat the shit out of you head to head.

Head to head mattered when deciding the B1G East champion because you had identical conference records. Head to head doesn't matter when choosing a playoff team because Ohio State had a better overall record.
Clearly the right decision. Ohio State 0
 
Regardless of who you think they should have beaten, Indiana lost 7 games. And Bloomington isn't exactly a hostile environment. The crowds at Memorial Stadium tend to be split 50/50 depending on who the opponent is.
We won the division, the conference and beat OSU head to head, in any other sport other than fbs PSU is in the playoffs over OSU. Tonight's game proved that OSU did not deserve to be there, will find out Monday if PSU deserved to be in.
 
Literally the most desperate series of posts I've ever seen. Go home already - you got trucked. I see a lot of OSU fans on twitter saying better to lose now than to Bama later. That's the spirit!
And last year when MSU got crushed in the playoffs, OSU fans moaned and complained that the committee obviously took the wrong team, but now that the shoe is on the other foot, they're not saying OSU was the wrong choice. Funny how that works.
 
And last year when MSU got crushed in the playoffs, OSU fans moaned and complained that the committee obviously took the wrong team, but now that the shoe is on the other foot, they're not saying OSU was the wrong choice. Funny how that works.
Seriously, and what Urbie had to work with this year versus what Franklin had to work with, either Urbs is getting soft or he's not a very good judge of quarterback talent.
 
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We won the division, the conference and beat OSU head to head, in any other sport other than fbs PSU is in the playoffs over OSU.
That's entirely untrue. In most sports they choose the playoff teams by overall record, not division or conference record.
 
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Literally the most desperate series of posts I've ever seen. Go home already - you got trucked. I see a lot of OSU fans on twitter saying better to lose now than to Bama later. That's the spirit!
I didn't get trucked and I'm not an Ohio State fan.
 
Regardless of who you think they should have beaten, Indiana lost 7 games. And Bloomington isn't exactly a hostile environment. The crowds at Memorial Stadium tend to be split 50/50 depending on who the opponent is.

How did that MSU game go for you guys?
 
Seriously??? Bye, bye, that's the only reason anyone was responding to you.
I've explained that fact in previous threads. But just like the difference between 1 loss and 2 losses, you guys tend to ignore facts while shouting your predetermined talking points and ad hominem attacks.
 
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Seriously??? Bye, bye, that's the only reason anyone was responding to you.
I've explained that fact in previous threads. But just like the difference between 1 loss and 2 losses, you guys tend to ignore facts while shouting your predetermined talking points and ad hominem attacks.

Hey now, better cut down on those 3 syllable words. Wikipedia will go into meltdown mode lol
 
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Winning the Big Ten is important if you want to go to Pasadena. Not losing a non-conference game to Pitt is important if you want to play for the crystal trophy.
Apparently not. Clemson lost to that same Pitt team and just beat OSU. They're still in the hunt for the trophy.
 
PSU fans are not the ones who said the Big was the best conference in football this year, that was everyone else. And guess what? A few years ago when pretty much everyone agreed the SEC was the strongest conference in football, they had the worst bowl record that year. It was widely discussed and accepted this year that the Big was the best conference whether you think so or not and that is not just something in Penn State fans' heads.
true. when wisky beat lsu(who later fired their head coach after having a bad first half of the season) people started to think that the bifg 10 was back. osu beat okla so that added to it. for whatever reason(like psu) lsu and okla were not playing good ball then. but they had the reputation as national powerhouses. so that made the big 10 look like the conf to beat. mich, psu, wisc and osu are all good teams, but i felt that these top big 10 teams were not quite all they were cracked up to be. why? osu lost a million starters from last year. this was a rebuilding year for them. mich returned a lot, but had no set qb as the 2nd string from last just was not that good. psu was still developing. wisc has no offense. i think the big 10 i solid, but weaker than the acc and sec. then probably the big 10, pac 12 and big 12. the bowls are kind of proving this.
 
Apparently not. Clemson lost to that same Pitt team and just beat OSU. They're still in the hunt for the trophy.
That's because Clemson didn't also have a 39-point loss on their resume in addition to losing to Pitt.
 
Tonight we bathe in the tears of Buckeyes. Welcome back to earth. I read the forum on eleven warriors they thought they would run over Clemson and easily take on Bama. Might have been the easiest moneyline play on Clemson I have come across. Everyone at PSU knew you had no offense against equally matched opponents and Clemson shut that down.

The tears make my skin so soft.
 
I've explained that fact in previous threads. But just like the difference between 1 loss and 2 losses, you guys tend to ignore facts while shouting your predetermined talking points and ad hominem attacks.
By your tone and logic I would say: 1) You're young and 2) You're progressive. History is a problem for both. Look up 2001 Baltimore Ravens and maybe then you will understand why you WIN ON THE FIELD!!!!!
 
true. when wisky beat lsu(who later fired their head coach after having a bad first half of the season) people started to think that the bifg 10 was back. osu beat okla so that added to it. for whatever reason(like psu) lsu and okla were not playing good ball then. but they had the reputation as national powerhouses. so that made the big 10 look like the conf to beat. mich, psu, wisc and osu are all good teams, but i felt that these top big 10 teams were not quite all they were cracked up to be. why? osu lost a million starters from last year. this was a rebuilding year for them. mich returned a lot, but had no set qb as the 2nd string from last just was not that good. psu was still developing. wisc has no offense. i think the big 10 i solid, but weaker than the acc and sec. then probably the big 10, pac 12 and big 12. the bowls are kind of proving this.
The SEC was Bama and a few middle of the road teams. The ACC had Clemson and FSU...Louisville folded like a cheap suit anytime they played someone other than early against FSU. The Big 10 was better than both of those conferences but not by a lot. All the conferences were pretty close to each other but the Big had more top level teams.
 
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By your tone and logic I would say: 1) You're young and 2) You're progressive. History is a problem for both. Look up 2001 Baltimore Ravens and maybe then you will understand why you WIN ON THE FIELD!!!!!
I'm trying to figure out what you mean by 2001 Ravens? if you mean the 2000 Ravens that won the 2001 Super Bowl, then the Ravens lost their division and went 1-1 against the conference winner. They wouldn't have made the playoffs if it wasn't for the Wild Card.

If you mean the 2001 Ravens, that didn't make the 2002 Super Bowl, then they also didn't win their division and lost to the Steelers in the playoffs.

So I'm pretty sure that you're the one that has a problem with history or reasoning, or both.
 
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That's entirely untrue, try again.
It's not necessary to try again when you get it right the first time. I'll give you an example of why I'm correct:

The Arizona Cardinals have a better divisional record than the Seattle Seahawks right now. Their conference records are identical and the Cardinals have a better record in head-to-head games. But some crazy how, Seattle is going to the playoffs while Arizona stays home. Why? Because Seattle has a better overall record.
 
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Don't yell at us. For over 50 years I've listened to how important winning the Big Ten was every season. Those two bullies, Hayes and Schembechler would always preach it before going to Pasadena and being bitch slapped. Now, it doesn't matter. F&CK YOU!
Can we say F**K YOU many amny many times over? Yeah, i think we can.
 
It's not necessary to try again when you get it right the first time. I'll give you an example of why I'm correct:

The Arizona Cardinals have a better divisional record than the Seattle Seahawks right now. Their conference records are identical and the Cardinals have a better record in head-to-head games. But some crazy how, Seattle is going to the playoffs while Arizona stays home. Why? Because Seattle has a better overall record.
Or Hockey, where the Penguins have the better division and conference record, but are 2nd in the division because it goes by points from overall record.
 
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I'm trying to figure out what you mean by 2001 Ravens? if you mean the 2000 Ravens that won the 2001 Super Bowl, then the Ravens lost their division and went 1-1 against the conference winner. They wouldn't have made the playoffs if it wasn't for the Wild Card.

If you mean the 2001 Ravens, that didn't make the 2002 Super Bowl, then they also didn't win their division and lost to the Steelers in the playoffs.

So I'm pretty sure that you're the one that has a problem with history or reasoning, or both.

You know what I meant and I also know why you responded to this post.

Fine, 2000 Ravens, won the 2001 Super Bowl and it has nothing to do with winning their division, it had to do with the fact that they got hot late, won a bunch of games no one said they could win and won the Super Bowl. The comparison is a team that won late and won it all. At the end of that season, the Ravens proved they were the best team in the NFL on the field pure and simple regardless of the so-called experts.

This is all you need to know, 4 team playoff is going to 8 team playoff and it should........fast
 
It's not necessary to try again when you get it right the first time. I'll give you an example of why I'm correct:

The Arizona Cardinals have a better divisional record than the Seattle Seahawks right now. Their conference records are identical and the Cardinals have a better record in head-to-head games. But some crazy how, Seattle is going to the playoffs while Arizona stays home. Why? Because Seattle has a better overall record.
Or the NBA where Chicago is 12-11 against conference opponents, but is ranked behind 9-12 Indiana and 8-9 New York in the playoff race.
 
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You don't even realize you're undermining your own argument. You lost to a team that lost 5 games and finished unranked and you got shit-stomped by the team that finished third in your division.

And for some reason you think you got jobbed by the selection committee.
yup.. a zillion years ago and with nothing resembling the team on the field the past 8 games. Put another way, do you think the UM tream that played fsu last night has anything resembling a prayer playing the one we played in game 4? Times change, things evolve... we stepped up... the other stepped down.

I'd play both osu and um in a heartbeat... both are shells of their former selves. and it showed the past 2 nights.

and once again, PENN STATE is left to hold the banner of the B1G... we lose, this conference just got bf'd... if we and wisky hold up our ends, all ends well.

as for michigan.... lol.. paging dr hammy, paging dr hammy... oh, i'm sorry, doc ham is on the phone... again... and again... and again... and again....
 
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You know what I meant and I also know why you responded to this post. Fine, 2000 Ravens, won the 2001 Super Bowl and it has nothing to do with winning their division, it had to do with the fact that they got hot late, won a bunch of games no one said they could win and won the Super Bowl. The comparison is a team that won late and won it all. At the end of that season, the Ravens proved they were the best team in the NFL on the field pure and simple,.
lol, dude.

The Ravens lost 3 straight games then beat 4-12 Cincinnati, 13-3 Conf. Champs Tennessee, 5-11 Dallas, and 3-12 Cleveland. They finished the season with a 4-game winning streak with 3 games against the bottom 6 teams in the league. I'm not going to look it up, but I'm going to guess that half of all Super Bowl winners won 6-7 straight games to finish the season, considering it takes 3-4 playoff wins. There was nothing special about the end of the Raven's season, other than they won the Super Bowl.

Edit: probably should address your last sentence. Since the Wild Card was added in 1978, only 6 non-division champions have won the Super Bowl. So 84% of the Super Bowl winners over that time were conference champs that had the best overall records, not division.
 
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And Pitt beat you head to head. And Michigan beat the shit out of you head to head.

Head to head mattered when deciding the B1G East champion because you had identical conference records. Head to head doesn't matter when choosing a playoff team because Ohio State had a better overall record.
Ohio State sucked when the chips were down against PSU and they really, really sucked tonight.
 
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